JerryBaumchen 1,468 #76 December 5, 2014 Hi jakee, QuoteEh? You just said that you had to show it to anyone at any time even if you weren't driving. Which one was it? The law was that you were req'd to show it to anyone if you had it on you. You were req'd to have it on you if you were operating a motor vehicle. If you did not have it on you & were not operating a motor vehicle, you did not have to show it ( you actually could not show it since you did not have it in your possession ). QuoteHow can someone demand to see your licence when you're driving? One evening this guy was driving ( IMO ) rather nutzy, to the point that I actually thought he might not have a license. He pulled into a gas station and I pulled in also. I went over to him and demanded to see his Driver's License. He said something to the effect of, "Whaaat?' I informed him of the law and he showed me his Driver's License. I then left. Quote it's that I think you're wrong and it never existed in the first place. I make no assumptions about you or your knowledge of the laws of the State of Oregon, however it was the law in Oregon. And, as I mentioned previously, I do not know if it still the law in this state. You got any strange laws in the UK that you would determine "it still doesn't make sense?" Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #77 December 5, 2014 JerryBaumchenHi jakee, QuoteEh? You just said that you had to show it to anyone at any time even if you weren't driving. Which one was it? The law was that you were req'd to show it to anyone if you had it on you. You were req'd to have it on you if you were operating a motor vehicle. If you did not have it on you & were not operating a motor vehicle, you did not have to show it ( you actually could not show it since you did not have it in your possession ). Ok, so how do they know? If someone says 'show me your dl' and you say you don't have it, how do they know? You might be complying, you might not be, who could say? Makes no sense. QuoteI make no assumptions about you or your knowledge of the laws of the State of Oregon, however it was the law in Oregon. I bet you it wasn't.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CameraNewbie 0 #78 December 5, 2014 Quote B) If you're a cop asking questions people don't have to answer, expect to be told 'no'. And don't shoot them for it. Please entertain us and provide valid facts when a cop asked a person questions, where they were shot as a result of saying "no" to that cop. Please do tell....What do protesters want? Dead cops! When do they want it? Every 2 weeks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CameraNewbie 0 #79 December 5, 2014 DanG Quote So basically, you're telling me, your details are from wikipedia. You're not providing any evidence i.e. statements, from any court proceedings. Wow Seriously? Next time you post anything, expect to be asked to cite verse and chapter from proceedings under penalty of perjury. You guys have hijacked my post and went off topic. nuff said....What do protesters want? Dead cops! When do they want it? Every 2 weeks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #80 December 5, 2014 CameraNewbie Quote B) If you're a cop asking questions people don't have to answer, expect to be told 'no'. And don't shoot them for it. Please entertain us and provide valid facts when a cop asked a person questions, where they were shot as a result of saying "no" to that cop. Please do tell.... Read the post that paragraph was in reply to and you might understand the context. Then again, you might not.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #81 December 5, 2014 Quoteyou might understand the context. Then again, you might not. Why do you feel it necessarily to include snide remarks to everyone? Do you do this in person also, or only from the anonymity of computer? Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,468 #82 December 5, 2014 Hi Jakee, QuoteI bet you it wasn't. You having a bad day? Go get laid, the Little Death will make you feel better. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #83 December 5, 2014 JerryBaumchenHi Jakee, QuoteI bet you it wasn't. You having a bad day? Not at all, what gave you that idea? I just find it fascinating how people end up believing stuff that's so obviously untrue, and your supposed Oregon DL law blatantly never existed. If you can show me that it did exist I'll quite happily admit that my bullshit detector is completely broken, but until then I'll continue to view your claim with amused bemusement.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #84 December 5, 2014 AnvilbrotherQuoteyou might understand the context. Then again, you might not. Why do you feel it necessarily to include snide remarks to everyone? Do you do this in person also, or only from the anonymity of computer? If you bothered to read the post I was replying to, you might understand the context. Then again, you might not. Why should I go out of my way to be nice to someone who's just being a dick?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #85 December 5, 2014 QuoteIf you bothered to read the post I was replying to, you might understand the context. Then again, you might not. Why should I go out of my way to be nice to someone who's just being a dick? Would you say that to his face? Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #86 December 5, 2014 AnvilbrotherQuoteIf you bothered to read the post I was replying to, you might understand the context. Then again, you might not. Why should I go out of my way to be nice to someone who's just being a dick? Would you say that to his face? Would he?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #87 December 5, 2014 I dont know the question was yours to answer not his. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyBoyd 0 #88 December 6, 2014 This isn't directed specifically at Jakee. I'm just trying to help out with the question you guys are wrestling with: is it OK for a police officer to randomly stop an individual and ask for ID. That's a more complicated question that it seems at first glance. The U.S. Supreme Court, in Delaware v. Prouse, held that police officers may not randomly stop individual motorists to check for ID. However, roadside checkpoints are constitutional, as long as there is some public interest in the roadblock, i.e., sobriety checks, or seatbelt checks, and the roadblock is conducted in some sort of systematic manner. http://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/440/648 The question of stopping pedestrians on the street is trickier. Some cities, like New York, have instituted "stop and frisk" policies where individuals are stopped for little or no reason, frisked, and questioned. This has been found unconstitutional by a federal court, but that decision is on appeal. http://ccrjustice.org/stopandfrisk. Just wanted to give you gentlemen a little clarity on the subject of your argument. Carry on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #89 December 6, 2014 AnvilbrotherI dont know the question was yours to answer not his. ok, then yeah. Why wouldn't I tell someone who's being a dick that they're being a dick?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
