Dems consider Keystone vote for Landrieu

[airdvr 210]

That's what i love about the liberal mindset; you want it both ways. I realize as we get older that our memories get a bit clouded but the Porkulous was supposed to be shovel ready jobs. We know now that was a lie. When you can't succeed with that one you want to switch over to the unemployment rate. You're so good at re-directs one would think you had a law degree.

Please don't dent the planet.

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[kallend 2,156]

airdvr

That's what i love about the liberal mindset; you want it both ways. I realize as we get older that our memories get a bit clouded but the Porkulous was supposed to be shovel ready jobs. We know now that was a lie. When you can't succeed with that one you want to switch over to the unemployment rate. You're so good at re-directs one would think you had a law degree.

Translation - unable to dispute the unemployment figures, airdvr attacks the messenger instead.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[airdvr 210]

kallend

***That's what i love about the liberal mindset; you want it both ways. I realize as we get older that our memories get a bit clouded but the Porkulous was supposed to be shovel ready jobs. We know now that was a lie. When you can't succeed with that one you want to switch over to the unemployment rate. You're so good at re-directs one would think you had a law degree.

Translation - unable to dispute the unemployment figures, airdvr attacks the messenger instead.

John...if nothing had been done the unemployment would have been lowered. Your community organizer just shuffled paper.

You said we needed a bill to replace crumbling infrastructure. Let me point you to this page

The Highway Trust Fund and the Treatment of Surface Transportation Programs in the Federal Budget

http://www.cbo.gov/publication/45416

Specifically this paragraph...

Most Procedures for Controlling Federal Spending Do Not Apply to Spending for Surface Transportation

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The processes that the Congress uses to manage the budget—procedural points of order and other Congressional rules designed to control budget deficits—are largely designed to monitor either a program’s mandatory outlays or its discretionary budget authority. But, with mandatory budget authority and discretionary outlays, surface transportation programs funded from the Highway Trust Fund are generally not subject to the processes that control spending for most other programs:

Spending for mandatory programs is usually subject to certain reductions—mostly across-the-board cuts—under budget rules. However, outlays for the trust fund’s surface transportation programs are not subject to those rules because they are considered discretionary.
Spending for most discretionary programs is controlled by statutory caps on discretionary budget authority. However, outlays for the trust fund’s surface transportation programs are not constrained by those caps because the budget authority for those programs is considered mandatory.
That split budgetary treatment allows programs funded by the Highway Trust Fund to skirt budgetary control mechanisms and makes understanding the potential budgetary implications of legislation more difficult for policymakers and transportation stakeholders. (How CBO displays transportation funding in its cost estimates is explained in Anatomy of a Cost Estimate for Legislation Funding Transportation Programs, June 2014.)

I just want to make sure I have this right. You think we should spend more on a program that is already out of control. I agree that we need to fix the problem handing out more free passes to unions isn't the answer.

Please don't dent the planet.

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Anvilbrother

Merica! At least they are selling it to us so when Jeb bush gets elected president you can't claim he used false Intel to invade Canada for it...

I'm a republican and I do NOT want jeb bush as president.

As another poster posted...we as americans have had enough of bushes and clintons. We need neither.

I'm all for Rand Paul/Trey Gowdy. Or just in case Dr. Ben Carson wants to run.

Hillary can suck it.

[kallend 2,156]

Oh, another "I hate unions" post.

Putting money in the pockets of working class and middle class Americans does far more for the economy than putting it in the Cayman Island accounts of billionaires. It was the bankers that gave us the biggest recession in generations, not the unions.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Anvilbrother 0]

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I'm a republican and I do NOT want jeb bush as president.

Yea I hear ya! I just had to throw another bush in his face and link it to oil and war

Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

[airdvr 210]

kallend

Oh, another "I hate unions" post.

Putting money in the pockets of working class and middle class Americans does far more for the economy than putting it in the Cayman Island accounts of billionaires. It was the bankers that gave us the biggest recession in generations, not the unions.

That's some funny shit right there. You thinking unions put money in the pockets of working class and middle class Americans.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[kallend 2,156]

airdvr

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Oh, another "I hate unions" post.

Putting money in the pockets of working class and middle class Americans does far more for the economy than putting it in the Cayman Island accounts of billionaires. It was the bankers that gave us the biggest recession in generations, not the unions.

That's some funny shit right there. You thinking unions put money in the pockets of working class and middle class Americans.

What's funny is that your knowledge of history is so deficient. Well, funny in a pathetic sort of way.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[billvon 3,121]

>John...if nothing had been done the unemployment would have been lowered.
>Your community organizer just shuffled paper.

Of course. If anything bad happens, Obama is to blame. If anything good happens, it was unrelated to anything he did.

Employment is rising. Right wing translation - it just happened. Obama had nothing to do with it.

Employment is rising slowly. Right wing translation - Obama's programs are failing. He is clearly incompetent.

Employment rises more rapidly. Right wing translation - it just happened again. Obama had nothing to do with it.

Benghazi happens. Right wing translation - Obama got four Americans killed. He's head of the military, you know. The buck should stop with him but he's criminally irresponsible.

Bin Laden is killed. Right wing translation - Obama has nothing to do with the military. He's stealing the credit from the real people in charge.

[kallend 2,156]

billvon

>John...if nothing had been done the unemployment would have been lowered.
>Your community organizer just shuffled paper.

Of course. If anything bad happens, Obama is to blame. If anything good happens, it was unrelated to anything he did.

Employment is rising. Right wing translation - it just happened. Obama had nothing to do with it.

Employment is rising slowly. Right wing translation - Obama's programs are failing. He is clearly incompetent.

Employment rises more rapidly. Right wing translation - it just happened again. Obama had nothing to do with it.

Benghazi happens. Right wing translation - Obama got four Americans killed. He's head of the military, you know. The buck should stop with him but he's criminally irresponsible.

Bin Laden is killed. Right wing translation - Obama has nothing to do with the military. He's stealing the credit from the real people in charge.

Unfortunately the right wing lie machine has been very effective at fooling the portion of the electorate that doesn't pay attention to much beyond Reality TV.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[lawrocket 3]

The Keystone votw failed. 59-41.

Democrats could not get enough votes to invoke cloture of a Democrat filibuster of the Keystone bill.

Yes. The Democrats, who have control of the Senate, filibustered the bill. It's only been a few years that it's been waiting.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[turtlespeed 226]

lawrocket

The Keystone votw failed. 59-41.

Democrats could not get enough votes to invoke cloture of a Democrat filibuster of the Keystone bill.

Yes. The Democrats, who have control of the Senate, filibustered the bill. It's only been a few years that it's been waiting.

Thats ok, she was against it before she was for it.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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[freethefly 6]

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Even if Obama vetos it to appease his Hollywood friends, if the bitumen won't travel from Western Canada to the Gulf of Mexico via a new modern pipeline, it will still get there like it currently does. It will get there by rail.

And it gets there safely. No need for another pipeline. Frequency of rail testing has gone up, meaning that we test the integrity of the rail in shorter intervals than previous. Good for the railroads. BNSF has the bulk of oil transport. I am currently testing on the Union Pacific and see a lot of oil pass by as I wait on track and time. More support for railroad is needed in way of maintenance in order to keep it safe. More maintenance means more jobs on the railroad. Pipeline creates short term jobs. Rail jobs are long term. The xl pipeline will create, roughly, 40,000 short term jobs and will end in, roughly, two years. What will be left is about fifty long term jobs.

"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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And it gets there safely.

There rae some people in Lac Megantic who would probably disagree with you.

In short they forgot to put the parking brake on when they left the train for the night. Train started moving, derailed, went boom in the middle of the city and killed 47.

The train was carrying crude oil.