The mind set of the political left on clear display!

[rushmc 23]

We see this same bull shit here on this site
Dont agree with the left? You are stupid, uneducated, brain washed, RACISTS!, or worse

Fuck these bastards who pushed this law through
THEY DO NOT KNOW WHAT IS BEST FOR EVERYONE!!!!!
But they think they do

There is no compromising with the left
There is very little common ground
So stop trying
They are to be defeated

As for these midterms
The voice of the electorate is very clear
This elections was about STOPPING Obama and his leftist supporters and agenda. Period!!

The following is a GREAT example of the BS that is the elete left

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ObamaCare Writer Say Law Was Written to Confuse

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.......MIT professor Jonathan Gruber told an audience at the University of Pennsylvania last year the “Affordable” Care Act had to be written in a way that obscured what the bill was actually about because that was the only way it could have passed. “Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,” he said. “And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical for the thing to pass.”

http://patriotpost.us/posts/30843

The universtity took the video down but not before some one got a copy

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[airdvr 210]

Unfortunately the video is a microcosm of politics in general. It's not about doing what is good for the country. Anyone with a brain could see that Obamacare was going to be bad for the middle class...bad for the healthy...and just another form of welfare. Even Snopes does their level best of whitewash what's being said.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[kallend 2,148]

rushmc

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.......MIT professor Jonathan Gruber told an audience at the University of Pennsylvania last year the “Affordable” Care Act had to be written in a way that obscured what the bill was actually about because that was the only way it could have passed. “Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,” he said. “And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical for the thing to pass.”

http://patriotpost.us/posts/30843

The universtity took the video down but not before some one got a copy

And the FARs, of course, are beacons of transparency. So are the SEC regulations, the Social Security rules, the FCC regulations, IRS regulations, and anything else that lawyers had a hand in writing. Why would ACA be any different?

Do you have any idea just how big the US Code is? Find me anything in here or here that is not confusing.

Your post is just another one of your ill informed partisan rants.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rushmc 23]

kallend

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.......MIT professor Jonathan Gruber told an audience at the University of Pennsylvania last year the “Affordable” Care Act had to be written in a way that obscured what the bill was actually about because that was the only way it could have passed. “Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,” he said. “And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical for the thing to pass.”

http://patriotpost.us/posts/30843

The universtity took the video down but not before some one got a copy

And the FARs, of course, are beacons of transparency. So are the SEC regulations, the Social Security rules, the FCC regulations, IRS regulations, and anything else that lawyers had a hand in writing. Why would ACA be any different?

Do you have any idea just how big the US Code is? Find me anything in there that is not confusing.

Your post is just another one of your ill informed partisan rants.

See
you are one of those who the lie of ACA worked on

Focus John
Focus

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,148]

rushmc

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.......MIT professor Jonathan Gruber told an audience at the University of Pennsylvania last year the “Affordable” Care Act had to be written in a way that obscured what the bill was actually about because that was the only way it could have passed. “Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,” he said. “And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical for the thing to pass.”

http://patriotpost.us/posts/30843

The universtity took the video down but not before some one got a copy

And the FARs, of course, are beacons of transparency. So are the SEC regulations, the Social Security rules, the FCC regulations, IRS regulations, and anything else that lawyers had a hand in writing. Why would ACA be any different?

Do you have any idea just how big the US Code is? Find me anything in there that is not confusing.

Your post is just another one of your ill informed partisan rants.

See
you are one of those who the lie of ACA worked on

Focus John
Focus

I am willing to bet that I know far more about the provisions of the ACA than you do.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rushmc 23]

kallend

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.......MIT professor Jonathan Gruber told an audience at the University of Pennsylvania last year the “Affordable” Care Act had to be written in a way that obscured what the bill was actually about because that was the only way it could have passed. “Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,” he said. “And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical for the thing to pass.”

http://patriotpost.us/posts/30843

The universtity took the video down but not before some one got a copy

And the FARs, of course, are beacons of transparency. So are the SEC regulations, the Social Security rules, the FCC regulations, IRS regulations, and anything else that lawyers had a hand in writing. Why would ACA be any different?

Do you have any idea just how big the US Code is? Find me anything in there that is not confusing.

Your post is just another one of your ill informed partisan rants.

See
you are one of those who the lie of ACA worked on

Focus John
Focus

I am willing to bet that I know far more about the provisions of the ACA than you do.

Which makes the point even more powerful

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,148]

rushmc

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.......MIT professor Jonathan Gruber told an audience at the University of Pennsylvania last year the “Affordable” Care Act had to be written in a way that obscured what the bill was actually about because that was the only way it could have passed. “Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,” he said. “And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical for the thing to pass.”

http://patriotpost.us/posts/30843

The universtity took the video down but not before some one got a copy

And the FARs, of course, are beacons of transparency. So are the SEC regulations, the Social Security rules, the FCC regulations, IRS regulations, and anything else that lawyers had a hand in writing. Why would ACA be any different?

Do you have any idea just how big the US Code is? Find me anything in there that is not confusing.

Your post is just another one of your ill informed partisan rants.

See
you are one of those who the lie of ACA worked on

Focus John
Focus

I am willing to bet that I know far more about the provisions of the ACA than you do.

Which makes the point even more powerful

No, because your point was simply stupid, as I already demonstrated.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rushmc 23]

The only thing you have supported it that you are fine with the get what you want any way you can crowd
Fully knowing that you must lie to get it, because on its own merits is it doomed

This my friend, is the definition of what it takes to push liberalism

Lies

You just told us you know more about the ACA than me

I knew it was a lie so you must have too

yet you supported the deception
Shameful

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,148]

rushmc

The only thing you have supported it that you are fine with the get what you want any way you can crowd
Fully knowing that you must lie to get it, because on its own merits is it doomed

This my friend, is the definition of what it takes to push liberalism

Lies

You just told us you know more about the ACA than me

I knew it was a lie so you must have too

yet you supported the deception
Shameful

Once again Marc shows that he either didn't read or didn't understand what he read before he clicked on "Post".

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[airdvr 210]

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I am willing to bet that I know far more about the provisions of the ACA than you do.

The point does seem to ring true. If you knew so much more about it then you must have known it was bullshit written so as to mislead the people who are bearing the brunt of the expenses. You point to SS but SS in its infancy was nothing like the monster it is today, nor were the other programs you mention. It's only through deception and lies and politicians wanting to do something to earn a paycheck that it has grown to this size. I wonder how big ACA will be in 25 years.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[Channman 2]

airdvr

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I am willing to bet that I know far more about the provisions of the ACA than you do.

The point does seem to ring true. If you knew so much more about it then you must have known it was bullshit written so as to mislead the people who are bearing the brunt of the expenses. You point to SS but SS in its infancy was nothing like the monster it is today, nor were the other programs you mention. It's only through deception and lies and politicians wanting to do something to earn a paycheck that it has grown to this size. I wonder how big ACA will be in 25 years.

The only grownups in the room where republicans. The educated elitist i.e., Dumb Asses with degrees from the Ivy League had to pass it to find out what was in it. What a bunch of morons...those that voted for it and those that cling to it, rubbing it like a festering Boil thinking it will get better.

[lawrocket 3]

The righties said all along that the ACA was nothing more than taking money from the young and healthy to pay for the older and ill. Simply a way to redistribute wealth in order to subsidize those who aren't young and who aren't sick.

The dude is right. Had they been explicit that the bill was about seizing money and passing it out (a tax) then it ouldnt have been supported.

Fox News was right. Tea Partiers were right. The ACA was passed using the same tactics the Bush Admin used to get the Iraq War going. The people won't support nation-building. They'll support defensive war against terror.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[billvon 3,116]

>The righties said all along that the ACA was nothing more than taking money from
>the young and healthy to pay for the older and ill. Simply a way to redistribute
>wealth in order to subsidize those who aren't young and who aren't sick.

In other words - health insurance.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

billvon

>The righties said all along that the ACA was nothing more than taking money from
>the young and healthy to pay for the older and ill. Simply a way to redistribute
>wealth in order to subsidize those who aren't young and who aren't sick.

In other words - health insurance.

Or Social Security.

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[wmw999 2,588]

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the ACA was nothing more than taking money from the young and healthy to pay for the older and ill

Isn't that how all insurance works? Car insurance takes money from good drivers to pay for the damage caused by bad ones. Homeowners takes money from lucky/careful/well placed homeowners and uses it to pay for unlucky/careless/poorly placed homeowners.

The big difference is that we don't all have cars or houses. But we do all have bodies. And someone is paying for their care. "The government" is us anyway.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[lawrocket 3]

[Reply]Isn't that how all insurance works?

[skymiles 3]

lawrocket

The righties said all along that the ACA was nothing more than taking money from the young and healthy to pay for the older and ill. Simply a way to redistribute wealth in order to subsidize those who aren't young and who aren't sick.

That's the whole point. Because one day you too will be old and sick. Is that so difficult to understand?

[Boomerdog 0]

"We have to pass (the ACA) to see what's in it!"

- Nancy Pelosi

Same thing with a turd.

[kallend 2,148]

Q. Ever wonder why the tax code is so confusing?

A. Because lawyers lobbied to have it that way.

55% of the senators in the 113th Congress are lawyers.


You lawyers would be unemployed if laws were written for average citizens to understand them.

Why expect the ACA to be any different from any other law?

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[kallend 2,148]

Boomerdog

"We have to pass (the ACA) to see what's in it!"

- Nancy Pelosi

Same thing with a turd.

Same thing with SEC regulations.

Same thing with IRS regulations.

Same thing with the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2012.

If you think you've found a smoking gun you are sorely mistaken.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[billvon 3,116]

> Nobody thinks a person should be allowed to purchase insurance to repair a car
>that is destroyed. Or fire insurance after the house has burnt down.

Agreed. And no one is proposing that any dead person should be allowed to buy health insurance.

But even bad drivers are allowed to buy auto insurance, because you need it to drive. And even people with pre-existing conditions are allowed to buy health insurance.

>The ACA is about spreading COST.

In other words, it's health insurance. As I am sure you are aware (and to use your language) your own health insurance is taking money from the young and healthy to pay for the older and ill. It is simply a way to redistribute your money in order to subsidize those who aren't young and who aren't sick.

So is mine. So is everyone's. The reason it works at all is that it takes money from the young and healthy and spends it on the old and sick. In other words, that's not a bug, it's a feature - one you might rely on some day.

[airdvr 210]

skymiles

***The righties said all along that the ACA was nothing more than taking money from the young and healthy to pay for the older and ill. Simply a way to redistribute wealth in order to subsidize those who aren't young and who aren't sick.

That's the whole point. Because one day you too will be old and sick. Is that so difficult to understand?

We already have a program for that called Medicare. This isn't about old and young. You're taking money from those that have it and giving it to those that don't...plain and simple. You can call it whatever you like but it's just another form of welfare. It does nothing to solve the real problems of cost. At this point it would just be better to go to a single payer system and flush the current insurance company/healthcare provider model.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[airdvr 210]

kallend

***"We have to pass (the ACA) to see what's in it!"

- Nancy Pelosi

Same thing with a turd.

Same thing with SEC regulations.

Same thing with IRS regulations.

Same thing with the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2012.

If you think you've found a smoking gun you are sorely mistaken.

For an intelligent man you sure don't know when to let it go.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[JWest 0]

If you would pick the healthcare system in the US over say the healthcare system in Canada, then there is no point in even trying to convince you that the ACA is a sep in the right direction.

I don't vote right often because too many of their policies are influenced by religious beliefs.

I should add neither the left or right have is figured out. Our problems could be solved if we had a party that was left with social issues and right with financial issues.

[Boomerdog 0]

I wrote:

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"We have to pass (the ACA) to see what's in it!"
- Nancy Pelosi
Same thing with a turd.

You wrote:

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Same thing with SEC regulations.
Same thing with IRS regulations.
Same thing with the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2012.
If you think you've found a smoking gun you are sorely mistaken.

Is it possible you just called three agencies within the USG turds?
Most Conservatives would agree with you on your points.

Careful now, you wouldn't want to be accused of coming over to the Dark Side.

One of my favorite Lefties on the verge of converting?????
We just may have a front page story here!