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...Here's a suggestion: we don't know what the fuck we're doing. We don't have much understanding of Ebola or how it's vectored. Something happened in Texas, and frankly I think it's a credit to communications that we knew about it so quickly. We didn't have quarantine plans in place and hadn't drilled them. There are feds, state and local authorities dealing with private practitioners. This isn't easy, and there will be improvement as we learn from the mistakes and successes. No plan survives first contact....
I disagree with this. We (as in the CDC and WHO) have been studying Ebola for almost 40 years. We know a lot about it.
It's true that "something" happened in Texas, and reports are starting to come out that they didn't use approved BBP equipment, didn't follow proper removal procedures, and initially refused CDC help. I got it off of Nerdgirl's FB, a quick search didn't give any results.
All of the people who had casual contact with Duncan are quickly approaching the end of the incubation period. So far, no infections.
Nigeria, which isn't a really well run place, is approaching the "Clear of Ebola" designation (2x incubation period with no new cases).
Past outbreaks have been contained, this one has gotten so far out of hand because both Liberia and Sierra Leonne have been so badly damaged by civil wars. Their infrastructure has been totally devastated.
And even Fox News has said "Don't Panic".
Of course, Rush Limbaugh says "Panic!!!! The Democrats are going to KILL YOU with their incompetence!!"
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billvon 3,112
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>Wish we could all keep our heads a bit cooler.
You're just not thinking here. Cool heads will destroy ratings for news organizations. Anchors might lose their jobs. But you and your ilk* don't care about American jobs, do you.
(* - ilk, that's right, I said it, ilk. I win this argument.)
You're just not thinking here. Cool heads will destroy ratings for news organizations. Anchors might lose their jobs. But you and your ilk* don't care about American jobs, do you.
(* - ilk, that's right, I said it, ilk. I win this argument.)
kallend 2,147
TriGirl******I can see the need for quarantine, but only so long as there is some form of judicial process associated with it. Want to quarantine someone? Get a warrant and provide some ability for judicial review.
That's all well and good when there is a significant time lapse between the time one is exposed until they are contagious, such as with ebola. What happens when that time lapse is significantly reduced or nearly eliminated? Or when time of exposure is unknown (e.g., transmitted via common insect), and death follows within a day of the first symptom presenting itself?
Such as kids passing meningitis when they share sodas, or from other causal contact? That one kills SO much more quickly from the onset of the first symptoms. Yet where is the outrage and panic over the fatal exposure to all the victims of that disease?
Wish we could all keep our heads a bit cooler.
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Well, now it's getting serious.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
kallend
Well, now it's getting serious.
This allowed me to buy another block of shares of Nestle at a panic driven 5% discount.
rehmwa******
So you think the fact that the CDC flew people back to the US for treatment and had widely publicized success had no bearing on his decision to come here?
he didn't fly to the treatments centers in the US, he flew home.
they have direct flights to treatment centers????
Yes, as you wrote in the cited text above. Did you forget?
BillyVance 35
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Meanwhile, in the USA, some 30+ people will be shot dead today. And tomorrow. And the next day. And the next day.......
What are the GOP fearmongers doing about THAT?
More than likely most of those 30+ people getting shot dead each day are inner-city democrats who voted for Obama. The GOP ain't doing a damn thing.
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RonD1120 62
This may have been the first diagnosis in the U.S.
http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/08/06/just-serious-ebola-look-history-true-story-ebola-reston-virginia/
http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/08/06/just-serious-ebola-look-history-true-story-ebola-reston-virginia/
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kelpdiver***
Well, now it's getting serious.
This allowed me to buy another block of shares of Nestle at a panic driven 5% discount.
you realize they don't actually pay out directly in chocolate, don't you
hell, I've had their bottled water too, it doesn't taste chocolately even a little bit
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kallend 2,147
RonD1120This may have been the first diagnosis in the U.S.
http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/08/06/just-serious-ebola-look-history-true-story-ebola-reston-virginia/
So you're telling us that Ebola came out of the Reagan era military-industrial complex.
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billvon 3,112
>So you're telling us that Ebola came out of the Reagan era military-industrial complex.
THANKS OBAMA!
(prediction: Obama will be blamed for all of this, except the cure. "The CDC developed the antiviral/vaccine on their own. Obama had NOTHING to do with it!")
THANKS OBAMA!
(prediction: Obama will be blamed for all of this, except the cure. "The CDC developed the antiviral/vaccine on their own. Obama had NOTHING to do with it!")
kallend 2,147
billvon>So you're telling us that Ebola came out of the Reagan era military-industrial complex.
THANKS OBAMA!
(prediction: Obama will be blamed for all of this, except the cure. "The CDC developed the antiviral/vaccine on their own. Obama had NOTHING to do with it!")
What do you mean "will be"?
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
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jcd11235 0
Iago****** You have a health care worker in direct contact with an ebola patient, THE ONLY PATIENT. She calls the CDC and says she would like to get on a commercial flight but she has a temperature...
The temperature was 99.5, within the normal range.
Does not matter. She should have stayed home.
With the benefit of hindsight, sure. In the moment? Why should she have stayed home? She didn't appear to be presenting symptoms.
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Well, on the bright side, the school closures in TX & OH should put a crimp in the meningitis rate for a while.
As I said -- cooler heads. That course of action actually makes sense. Totally closing our borders? Not so much.
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