cvfd1399 0 #226 October 15, 2014 Its gonna get to the point where they have to stop travel. Not before a dozen more people enter the us and infect a few dozen more here, but they will have to eventually. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #227 October 15, 2014 Your private health care has done a bang up job containing and dealing with the ebola! Send home a guy with ebola symptoms who told them he had been to west Africa. Two health care workers infected. Top notch work! Wonder how long it is going to take for Republicans to blame the government. The same government they say isn't capable of handling health care. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #228 October 15, 2014 http://www.pressherald.com/2014/10/15/cdc-admits-shortcomings-in-protecting-nurse-from-ebola/ Quote FORT WORTH, Texas — The nation’s top disease-fighting agency acknowledged Tuesday that federal health experts failed to do all they should have done to prevent Ebola from spreading from a Liberian man who died last week in Texas to the nurse who treated him. Quote Wonder how long it is going to take for Republicans to blame the government. The same government they say isn't capable of handling health care. Ask and you shall receive Disclaimer im not a republican, but could not stand jumping at the chance :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #229 October 15, 2014 Great. Thanks to you, I've now used up 1 of the 10 free articles I can read in the Portland, ME Press Herald this month. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #230 October 15, 2014 Andy9o8Great. Thanks to you, I've now used up 1 of the 10 free articles I can read in the Portland, ME Press Herald this month. You do know clearing your cookies resets the count on those silly websites?"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #231 October 15, 2014 A scathing report of the mistakes at the TX hospital: http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/14/health/texas-ebola-nurses-union-claims/index.html"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #232 October 15, 2014 ryoder ***Great. Thanks to you, I've now used up 1 of the 10 free articles I can read in the Portland, ME Press Herald this month. You do know clearing your cookies resets the count on those silly websites? That would be unethical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #233 October 15, 2014 Andy9o8 ******Great. Thanks to you, I've now used up 1 of the 10 free articles I can read in the Portland, ME Press Herald this month. You do know clearing your cookies resets the count on those silly websites? That would be unethical. I'm sure you can develop a legal argument to justify it."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #234 October 15, 2014 CDC admits shortcomings in protecting nurse from Ebola The head of the agency outlines steps designed to stop the spread of the disease in the U.S., including increased training for health care workers. By EMILY SCHMALL and NOMAAN MERCHANT The Associated Press FORT WORTH, Texas — The nation’s top disease-fighting agency acknowledged Tuesday that federal health experts failed to do all they should have done to prevent Ebola from spreading from a Liberian man who died last week in Texas to the nurse who treated him. The stark admission from the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention came as the World Health Organization projected the pace of infections accelerating in West Africa – to as many as 10,000 new cases a week within two months. Additional Images The Associated Press Centers for Disease Control Director Tom Frieden provides an update on the latest developments involving the deadly Ebola virus and its infection of a Texas health care professional as he addresses the media at CDC headquarters Monday. Frieden said the CDC is working to improve protection for hospital workers after a nurse caring for an Ebola patient in Dallas became the first person to become infected with the disease inside the U.S. The Associated Press Centers for Disease Control Director Tom Frieden provides an update on the latest developments involving the deadly Ebola virus and its infection of a Texas health care professional as he addresses the media at CDC headquarters Monday. Frieden said the CDC is working to improve protection for hospital workers after a nurse caring for an Ebola patient in Dallas became the first person to become infected with the disease inside the U.S. Agency Director Tom Frieden outlined a series of steps designed to stop the spread of the disease in the U.S., including increased training for health care workers and changes at the Texas hospital where the virus was diagnosed to minimize the risk of more infections. A total of 76 people at the hospital might have had exposure to Thomas Eric Duncan, and all of them are being monitored for fever and other symptoms daily, Frieden said. In addition, health officials have been monitoring 48 others who had some contact with Duncan before he was admitted to the hospital. The Associated Press reported Monday that Pham was among about 70 hospital staffers who were involved in Duncan’s care after he was hospitalized, based on medical records provided by Duncan’s family. The announcement of the government’s stepped-up effort came after top health officials repeatedly assured the public over the last two weeks that they were doing everything possible to control the outbreak by deploying infectious-disease specialists to the hospital where Duncan was diagnosed with Ebola and later died. “I wish we had put a team like this on the ground the day the patient – the first patient – was diagnosed. That might have prevented this infection. But we will do that from today onward with any case anywhere in the U.S.,” Frieden said. Frieden described the new response team as having some of the world’s leading experts in how to care for Ebola and protect health care workers. They planned to review everything from how the isolation room is laid out, to what protective equipment health workers use, to waste management and decontamination. In Europe, the WHO said the death rate in the outbreak has risen to 70 percent as it has killed nearly 4,500 people, most of them in West Africa. The previous mortality rate was about 50 percent. President Barack Obama, speaking at the end of a meeting with U.S. and allied military leaders, declared that the “the world is not doing enough” to fight Ebola. “Everybody’s going to have to do more than they are doing right now, he said. Nina Pham became the first person to contract the disease on U.S. soil as she cared for Duncan. Pham released a statement Tuesday through Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital saying she is “doing well,” and the hospital listed her in good condition. The hospital CEO said medical staff members remain hopeful about her condition. The 26-year-old nurse had been in Duncan’s room often, from the day he was placed in intensive care until the day before he died last week. “I’m doing well and want to thank everyone for their kind wishes and prayers,” she said. Pham’s parents live in Fort Worth, where they are part of a close-knit, deeply religious community of Vietnamese Catholics. Members of their church held a special Mass for her Monday and sorority sisters at the Texas Christian University held a candlelight vigil for her Tuesday. At the hospital, she received a plasma transfusion from a doctor who beat the virus. She and other health care workers wore protective gear, including gowns, gloves, masks and face shields – and sometimes full-body suits – when caring for Duncan. Health officials have said there was a breach in protocol that led to the infections, but they don’t know where the breakdown occurred. Among the changes announced Tuesday by Frieden was a plan to limit the number of health care workers who care for Ebola patients so they “can become more familiar and more systematic in how they put on and take off protective equipment, and they can become more comfortable in a healthy way with providing care in the isolation unit.” Frieden said he was fully aware of the fear among health care workers in Texas and around the country about the risks of contracting the virus should it spread further. In response, he said an on-site manager who is an expert in infectious diseases will be in charge of every step of the process, along with new training for health care workers. “Ebola is unfamiliar. It’s scary, and getting it right is really, really important because the stakes are so high,” he said, adding that he wishes the CDC had done more from the beginning. “We did send some expertise in infection control, but I think we could in retrospect, with 20/20 hindsight, we could have sent a more robust hospital infection-control team and been more hands on with the hospital from day one about how exactly this should be managed,” Frieden said. The agency explained that its initial priority in Dallas was public health: tracking down anyone who had contact with Duncan to be sure there was no spread of the virus in the community, CDC spokeswoman Barbara Reynolds said. Here you go a wall of text free from running anyones click count up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #235 October 15, 2014 You've probably violated copyright laws. I'm not taking the blame for that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #236 October 15, 2014 Maybe if the GOP would stop blocking the appointment of the Surgeon General on purely ideological grounds....... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #237 October 15, 2014 Or the CURRENT SITTING acting surgeon general Boris D. Lushniak could step up and do his job despite the senate block he is the person in charge. Ooh wait thats because the current administration is keeping him locked in a closet so they can blame the GOP/NRA for the lack of a surgeon general action on ebola. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #238 October 15, 2014 cvfd1399Or the CURRENT SITTING acting surgeon general Boris D. Lushniak could step up and do his job despite the senate block he is the person in charge. Ooh wait thats because the current administration is keeping him locked in a closet so they can blame the GOP/NRA for the lack of a surgeon general action on ebola. I thought health care was best handled by the private sector? What do you need the CDC and surgeon general for? All you closeted conservatives who call yourselves libertarians, who should be responsible here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,078 #239 October 15, 2014 > Ooh wait thats because the current administration . . . Ebola? THANKS OBAMA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #240 October 15, 2014 Quote I thought health care was best handled by the private sector? What do you need the CDC and surgeon general for? All you closeted conservatives who call yourselves libertarians, who should be responsible here? I posted the link as a joke because he requested it, and a quick search poped it right up. Why does it always have to go there? Im not even going to continue down this road with you. Heres to hoping all sides can stop this before it gets any worse my friend. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #241 October 15, 2014 Thats what I was thinking from a hazmat background. Level A or B, and a decon line consisting of a bleach/soap scrub down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #242 October 15, 2014 I thought we had worked out the procedures decades ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMbSpnlOOtE "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #243 October 15, 2014 billvon> Ooh wait thats because the current administration . . . Ebola? THANKS OBAMA. Have you noticed that ebola is a near-anagram of Obama. What more evidence do you need?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #244 October 15, 2014 Iago If the hospital didn't have the suits and equipment the staff should have either acquired them on their own (bypassing the requisition process) or stole the Hazmat and SCBAs from the FD for temp use. I'm not trying to blame the victims here so I'll apologize if it sounds that way. It's not my intent. So, hopefully, other hospital's staff are seeing to their protection for the future. Bullshit. If the hospital does not provide the proper protective gear AND training, the hospital staff needs to refuse to directly interact with any Ebola patient. Let them buy the gear online or contact local organizations. That should not be the responsibility of each health care worker. Until there is effective treatment, a cure, or even a way to detect the virus prior to contagious stage, full quarantine is all we have, including those working directly with the patients.Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #245 October 15, 2014 Second nurse went to visit friends and family in Ohio, when she returned she started getting the fever and was admitted. Look out Ohio...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,078 #246 October 15, 2014 > If the hospital does not provide the proper protective gear AND training, the >hospital staff needs to refuse to directly interact with any Ebola patient. "Sorry, we don't have the facilities to treat you here. You'll just have to wait in the lobby until our CDC grant comes through. What? You don't want to? Well, the number 5 bus stops at the mall every half hour; that's just down the block . . ." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #247 October 15, 2014 [Aribic was supposed to be here but it did not copy and paste well] Teach them to say this, send them to the middle eastTranslation according to Google Take me to your ISIS leader. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #248 October 15, 2014 cvfd1399Second nurse went to visit friends and family in Ohio, when she returned she started getting the fever and was admitted. Look out Ohio...... I bet her F&F love her right now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #249 October 15, 2014 Kent state put out a statement making sure everyone knew she had not stepped FOOT on the campus lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #250 October 15, 2014 kelpdiver***Second nurse went to visit friends and family in Ohio, when she returned she started getting the fever and was admitted. Look out Ohio...... I bet her F&F love her right now. The news reports I've seen today say that the fever didn't spike until after she got home. She wasn't symptomatic while in Ohio, or on the plane ride back. But, of course, they are disinfecting the entire plane."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites