Woman beheaded by fired Muslim co-worker

[normiss 898]

"Nolen allegedly told investigators that he felt oppressed at work -- particularly over not getting a raise, a law enforcement official told CNN on Monday."

[normiss 898]

"KOKI-TV in Tulsa reported, Nolen was arrested after a police officer saw him throw bags of crack cocaine and marijuana out a car window as he was being pulled over for traffic violations.

Out on probation in 2010, he was stopped for an expired tag when a trooper learned he had outstanding arrest warrants, KOKI reported. He struggled with the trooper, then escaped only to be arrested 12 hours later, the station reported.

In 2011, he was convicted on drug, resisting arrest and escape charges and sent to prison.

In online prison records related to that incident, authorities note that in addition to a "Jesus Christ" tattoo on his chest and praying hands on his right arm, he had the Arabic words for "peace be upon you" tattooed on his abdomen."

huh. Maybe god told him to kill her.

[BillyVance 35]

normiss

"KOKI-TV in Tulsa reported, Nolen was arrested after a police officer saw him throw bags of crack cocaine and marijuana out a car window as he was being pulled over for traffic violations.

Out on probation in 2010, he was stopped for an expired tag when a trooper learned he had outstanding arrest warrants, KOKI reported. He struggled with the trooper, then escaped only to be arrested 12 hours later, the station reported.

In 2011, he was convicted on drug, resisting arrest and escape charges and sent to prison.

In online prison records related to that incident, authorities note that in addition to a "Jesus Christ" tattoo on his chest and praying hands on his right arm, he had the Arabic words for "peace be upon you" tattooed on his abdomen."

huh. Maybe god told him to kill her.

Instead of "peace be unto you", the tattoo should have said "you go in pieces"

Old movie line by Dolph Lundgren. Can't remember the movie's name.

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[rushmc 23]

wmw999

Are you saying that there are 30,000 Muslims, 30,000 people with mental problems, or are you just letting us infer that the two are one and the same, so that you can later say that it's everyone else thinking that way?

Wendy P.

I would say the estimated 30,000 ISIS warriors are both mental and extremists

I am not infering anything

Point is, this is not small group of off the wall wierdos
And we have had an estimated 100 people leave the US to go help them via their recruiting (according to the Obama admin) and we had better call them what they are and deal with it

Work place violence??

Really?

Bullshit
Just like th Ft Hood shooter

Same bullshit

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[champu 1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Come_in_Peace

[DanG 1]

Should we classify every violent crime committed by a Muslim as terrorism?

- Dan G

[rushmc 23]

DanG

Should we classify every violent crime committed by a Muslim as terrorism?

Really?

This is the only place you can go???

Did you see the report on his facebook sight?

He cut off her head and and if not for a legal gun owner who was packing he would have done this to another

You can call this what every the hell you want
but I would not classify this as workplace violence
Nor would I have called the FT Hood a workplace violence incident




Now, if you can stay on topic please contribute

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[RonD1120 62]

Yes, it is what it is.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

But every violent crime by a Christian is not right?

[rushmc 23]

SkyDekker

But every violent crime by a Christian is not right?

Hmmmm
Got a story where a christion cut off someone's head lately?

should be easy to find since it happens here in the us all the time

Or, how about a christian screaming god is great when they shoot and kill 13 people and injure 30 others

No hurry
We got some time

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[normiss 898]

Based on the tatts, his mother's statements, his relative's statements, and his friend's statements, THIS story is about a christian lopping off a human head.
He just went cray cray and committed a copycat crime.
It's really not that hard to understand, nor is it the first copycat crime ever committed.

[rushmc 23]

normiss

Based on the tatts, his mother's statements, his relative's statements, and his friend's statements, THIS story is about a christian lopping off a human head.
He just went cray cray and committed a copycat crime.
It's really not that hard to understand, nor is it the first copycat crime ever committed.

His facebook page say otherwise
As for the copycat point? Ya, could be
This does NOT negate what he has posted on his facebook page howerver

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,150]

rushmc

***But every violent crime by a Christian is not right?

Hmmmm
Got a story where a christion cut off someone's head lately?



The French did it well into the second half of the 20th century.

However, I fail to see that the murder method is very important. Dead is dead whether by gun, axe or knife.

And by every definition, it IS workplace violence.

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[DanG 1]

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Yes, it is what it is.

So, in your mind, every violent crime committed by a Muslim is terrorism? When a Muslim holds up a liquor store, it is terrorism?

If that's what you believe, I feel sorry for you. You must be terrified all the time.

- Dan G

[kelpdiver 2]

rushmc

***But every violent crime by a Christian is not right?

Hmmmm
Got a story where a christion cut off someone's head lately?

should be easy to find since it happens here in the us all the time

Or, how about a christian screaming god is great when they shoot and kill 13 people and injure 30 others

No hurry
We got some time

We have at least as many cases in the US where a gay man was dragged to his death, and many many more where they were beaten to death by Christians. Then we can start adding up the pro-lifer murderers and the occasional skin head type murders.

Try again, rush.

[DanG 1]

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This is the only place you can go???

It's not the only place I can go. It's just where I chose to go with that particular post. Unlike you, I can have more than one thought on a subject.

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Did you see the report on his facebook sight?

For the nth time, it's "site". It's a website, not a websight.

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He cut off her head and and if not for a legal gun owner who was packing he would have done this to another

Why does that make it terrorism?

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Now, if you can stay on topic please contribute

I would love to hear you explain (with more than three words if possible) why my post was off topic.

- Dan G

[normiss 898]

You do realize every user here just put that tidbit away in safe keeping for use someday down the road don't you???

[kallend 2,150]

normiss

You do realize every user here just put that tidbit away in safe keeping for use someday down the road don't you???

Are you suggesting that there are different levels of "dead", depending on how you die?

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[normiss 898]

"However, I fail to see that the murder method is very important."

To be fair, you DO get bent out of shape when it's a gun that was used.

[champu 1]

rushmc

You can call this what every the hell you want but I would not classify this as workplace violence Nor would I have called the FT Hood a workplace violence incident

I get what you're trying to say but I think, as lawrocket demonstrated, the only sensible takeaway is that "workplace violence" is just a dumb thing to try and classify events as being or not in general, not just in this case.

"Terrorism / violent political actions rooted in religious fundamentalism" is a more useful category as is "long-term untreated schizophrenia" because each of those categories has a set of things you might propose or debate doing about them as a category.

[RonD1120 62]

Your post stated violent crime. Holding up a liquor store is armed robbery. No, I am not terrified. I am prepared, especially when I have to go into the city.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[JerryBaumchen 1,468]

Hi John,

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I fail to see that the murder method is very important.

Unless the news that I have gotten is in error, she was already dead from the knife wounds when he cut her head off.

But it does make for fantastic headlines; kudos to Billy Crystal.

Jerry Baumchen

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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Hmmmm
Got a story where a christion cut off someone's head lately?

So it is only terrorism when it is beheading?

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Or, how about a christian screaming god is great when they shoot and kill 13 people and injure 30 others

Many killings in the name of christ, or for a specific "cult" of christ. Protestants killing Catholics and vice-versa and the list goes on and on.

What I was trying to understand is why violence by a muslim american is terrorism, but violence by a christian american would not be.

[RonD1120 62]

Killing someone is murder. Cutting someone's head off is terrifying.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[rehmwa 2]

RonD1120

Killing someone is murder. Cutting someone's head off is terrifying.

and exhausting

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