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Fox crushed MSNBC on Obama speach

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***FOX News has mastered comfortable news for an under served group: conservatives who want comfortable news. Google succeeds in part because they provide comfortable results; i.e. ones that are likely to be clicked on, based on what you've clicked on in the past. Google doesn't care if you're presented a truly balanced view; they care that their advertisers get clicks.

[B]This whole "I want a world that conforms to me" thing has been increasing over the years. It might be a reaction to people being crowded, or other factors. But it's no surprise that a news channel has taken it up; other media have for years. Otherwise we wouldn't have both "Mother Jones" and "National Review."

It's just a newer concept that it can happen in broadcast news.

Wendy P.



Leave it to Wendy to put in a post that doesn't inflame and makes a simple point: that fox gives its viewers what it wants. MSNBC does the same thing.

And I think that her point about people wanting everyone else conform to their ideals is the most powerful point I've heard on this forum in a very long time. Just letting people like what they like and watch what they want to watch is unacceptable to too many people.

Thanks, Wendy.

+1.....Thanks, Wendy.

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Wendy you make great points, I don't know if it's "comfortable" but great points.

Let me me ask this. No matter what through growth of viewers MORE people seem to be enjoying Fox - my question is WHY?

One poster pointed out that Fox sb considered as a whole - true but overall why is it growing.

More people like conservative news??
Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

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Not sure why, but part of it is probably that some of those viewers don't feel served by either CNN or MSNBC, or other channels. And it could be that Fox viewers are still using video for news, while other demographics are reading the content and/or recaps the next day. I'll admit that's what I do.

But before concluding that it's a movement, one should make sure the direction is good. After all, communism, fascism, Peronism, and nazism were all movements due to people feeling unserved by so key as it was, too.

I'm not saying that Fox viewers want any of those movements; just that movements sometimes seem to take a pretty decided swing to actual balance.

Wendy P.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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Like it? No. Watch it? Yes. Why? Because 30 years ago most of the knuckle dragging moronosphere wouldn't be caught dead watching an (ostensible) "news" program on TV. Fox has successfully tapped into that. And for that vision and business and marketing acumen, they are to be congratulated.

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I haven't done the research to back this up, but I'd be willing to bet that the average Fox viewer is an older person. Younger people are getting their news (and everything else) from newer technologies than broadcast news. Older people also tend to be more conservative. So as young people abandon broadcast news in general, a larger portion of news watching people are older and tend toward the right, naturally gravitating toward Fox.

- Dan G

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DanG

I haven't done the research to back this up, but I'd be willing to bet that the average Fox viewer is an older person. Younger people are getting their news (and everything else) from newer technologies than broadcast news. Older people also tend to be more conservative. So as young people abandon broadcast news in general, a larger portion of news watching people are older and tend toward the right, naturally gravitating toward Fox.



All you had to do was to google 'fox news demographics' and your gut feeling would've been verified:

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/01/half-of-fox-news-viewers-are-68-and-older/283385/

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Fox News is losing younger viewers at an even faster rate than its competitors. With a median viewer age now at 68 according to Nielsen data through mid-January (compared with 60 for MSNBC and CNN, and 62 to 64 for the broadcast networks), Fox is in essence a retirement community ... If it is actuarially possible, its median viewer age will keep creeping upward. (It rose by two years over the course of 2013.)



In other words, TV news are viewed by old people.
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They are usually the ones to get out and vote every election too. I counted about half a dozen people that I work with that are between 18-25 that never vote. I made sure they understood how important it was to vote no matter what button you push.

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Wow some interesting posts...and backed up with links what an idea.

I'll accept that Wendy meant what she said:
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I'm not saying that Fox viewers want any of those movements; just that movements sometimes seem to take a pretty decided swing to actual balance.



But I'll add that movements can be positive. Nazism seems a little extreme to have remotely connected to PERHAPS a conservative movement.

Extreme Liberalism just as extreme Conservatism creates complete BS IMO. The needle swings. Bush was to far one way (8 years) Obama IMO was to far the other way (8 years) I hope we can find a middle ground in 2016
Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

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It would be nice to find someone that a large part of the country can agree on, who won't be undercut deliberately by whichever faction disagrees with them. I don't think that can happen these days without a crisis. And after 9-11 and the aftermath of going to Iraq instead of focusing on al Qaeda, we might not even be able to come together for that [:/]

It's up to individuals to find common ground with people they disagree with, and work toward common goals. Assuming that most people (even congresscritters :o) really are trying to do a good job of being people is a good start. Not everyone is, but most are, aren't they?

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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I don't know Wendy with the aftermath of Obama care, raised taxes, ect, ect we might not even be able to come together.

My point isn't that war is as bad as Obama care....it's that the last two presidents (16 yrs) have done so much that has dividend the country and we (right and left) have become so set against the other..... I just don't know.

I have three young daughters, I hate what " we the people" have left them. It's a mess.

Ir's terrible when one party controls all three branches.
Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

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