rushmc 23 #1 September 9, 2014 Some many, soooooo many http://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2014/09/09/National-Politics/Polling/release_361.xml"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #2 September 9, 2014 Truthfully I see some numbers that the Obama group will be happy about, others not so happy. Personally I don't believe the Republicans will win enough to matter in the senate - they may be the majority but they won't have enough to override a veto.Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #3 September 9, 2014 mirage62Truthfully I see some numbers that the Obama group will be happy about, others not so happy. Personally I don't believe the Republicans will win enough to matter in the senate - they may be the majority but they won't have enough to override a veto. I agree They may be able to send bills to the president that he will then become responcible for Since he is in constant campain mode he avoids having anthing hung on him This may change with a Republican Senant"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #4 September 9, 2014 All of this was predicted in 2008 and severely warned about in 2012. Yet, here we are. This is what happens when the citizenry is snowed by false rhetoric and lacks the ability to recognize leadership qualities.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #5 September 9, 2014 RonD1120All of this was predicted in 2008 and severely warned about in 2012. Yet, here we are. This is what happens when the citizenry is snowed by false rhetoric and lacks the ability to recognize leadership qualities. There's a couple or regular posters on this site who say they it is hatred when Obama is opposed But somehow there was no hatred when they opposed Bush Yet the rehtoric they used when speaking of Bush was much more vitriolic And of course, if liberals keep thier views that shows education and thoughtfulnes If conservatives to the same we are closed minded and un-educated And of course your are correct Obama seems to be much more of a puppet than Bush But to point this out is racist and full of hatred More open govenrment Bring the courntry together Keep your Dr Keep your health plan ...and the list goes on And yet we see the blind followers continue to march in his shadow I will agree with some in another thread though There are more similarities and differences between the last two presidents This country needs a leader I do not see one in the current crowd of canidates on either side But in the end it is up to the people Not sure if this is good anymore or not"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arvoitus 1 #6 September 9, 2014 rushmc***All of this was predicted in 2008 and severely warned about in 2012. Yet, here we are. This is what happens when the citizenry is snowed by false rhetoric and lacks the ability to recognize leadership qualities. There's a couple or regular posters on this site who say they it is hatred when Obama is opposed But somehow there was no hatred when they opposed Bush Yet the rehtoric they used when speaking of Bush was much more vitriolic And of course, if liberals keep thier views that shows education and thoughtfulnes If conservatives to the same we are closed minded and un-educated And of course your are correct Obama seems to be much more of a puppet than Bush But to point this out is racist and full of hatred More open govenrment Bring the courntry together Keep your Dr Keep your health plan ...and the list goes on And yet we see the blind followers continue to march in his shadow I will agree with some in another thread though There are more similarities and differences between the last two presidents This country needs a leader I do not see one in the current crowd of canidates on either side But in the end it is up to the people Not sure if this is good anymore or not As long as you refuse to accept the fact the president of the united states is nothing but a corporate sock puppet that does what his corporate masters tell him to, you don't really have much hope. It doesn't really matter which shade of gray (repub/democ) he represents when ultimately the corporations and the bankers who bought his place in the white house have the say in what he does and doesn't do.Your rights end where my feelings begin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #7 September 9, 2014 Arvoitus******All of this was predicted in 2008 and severely warned about in 2012. Yet, here we are. This is what happens when the citizenry is snowed by false rhetoric and lacks the ability to recognize leadership qualities. There's a couple or regular posters on this site who say they it is hatred when Obama is opposed But somehow there was no hatred when they opposed Bush Yet the rehtoric they used when speaking of Bush was much more vitriolic And of course, if liberals keep thier views that shows education and thoughtfulnes If conservatives to the same we are closed minded and un-educated And of course your are correct Obama seems to be much more of a puppet than Bush But to point this out is racist and full of hatred More open govenrment Bring the courntry together Keep your Dr Keep your health plan ...and the list goes on And yet we see the blind followers continue to march in his shadow I will agree with some in another thread though There are more similarities and differences between the last two presidents This country needs a leader I do not see one in the current crowd of canidates on either side But in the end it is up to the people Not sure if this is good anymore or not As long as you refuse to accept the fact the president of the united states is nothing but a corporate sock puppet that does what his corporate masters tell him to, you don't really have much hope. It doesn't really matter which shade of gray (repub/democ) he represents when ultimately the corporations and the bankers who bought his place in the white house have the say in what he does and doesn't do. Hey - we have the best government money can buy.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #8 September 9, 2014 kallend*********All of this was predicted in 2008 and severely warned about in 2012. Yet, here we are. This is what happens when the citizenry is snowed by false rhetoric and lacks the ability to recognize leadership qualities. There's a couple or regular posters on this site who say they it is hatred when Obama is opposed But somehow there was no hatred when they opposed Bush Yet the rehtoric they used when speaking of Bush was much more vitriolic And of course, if liberals keep thier views that shows education and thoughtfulnes If conservatives to the same we are closed minded and un-educated And of course your are correct Obama seems to be much more of a puppet than Bush But to point this out is racist and full of hatred More open govenrment Bring the courntry together Keep your Dr Keep your health plan ...and the list goes on And yet we see the blind followers continue to march in his shadow I will agree with some in another thread though There are more similarities and differences between the last two presidents This country needs a leader I do not see one in the current crowd of canidates on either side But in the end it is up to the people Not sure if this is good anymore or not As long as you refuse to accept the fact the president of the united states is nothing but a corporate sock puppet that does what his corporate masters tell him to, you don't really have much hope. It doesn't really matter which shade of gray (repub/democ) he represents when ultimately the corporations and the bankers who bought his place in the white house have the say in what he does and doesn't do. Hey - we have the best government money can buy. While one may argue corporations have too much influence, if it were as he says, Forbes and Romney would have both been president."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arvoitus 1 #9 September 10, 2014 rushmc************All of this was predicted in 2008 and severely warned about in 2012. Yet, here we are. This is what happens when the citizenry is snowed by false rhetoric and lacks the ability to recognize leadership qualities. There's a couple or regular posters on this site who say they it is hatred when Obama is opposed But somehow there was no hatred when they opposed Bush Yet the rehtoric they used when speaking of Bush was much more vitriolic And of course, if liberals keep thier views that shows education and thoughtfulnes If conservatives to the same we are closed minded and un-educated And of course your are correct Obama seems to be much more of a puppet than Bush But to point this out is racist and full of hatred More open govenrment Bring the courntry together Keep your Dr Keep your health plan ...and the list goes on And yet we see the blind followers continue to march in his shadow I will agree with some in another thread though There are more similarities and differences between the last two presidents This country needs a leader I do not see one in the current crowd of canidates on either side But in the end it is up to the people Not sure if this is good anymore or not As long as you refuse to accept the fact the president of the united states is nothing but a corporate sock puppet that does what his corporate masters tell him to, you don't really have much hope. It doesn't really matter which shade of gray (repub/democ) he represents when ultimately the corporations and the bankers who bought his place in the white house have the say in what he does and doesn't do. Hey - we have the best government money can buy. While one may argue corporations have too much influence, if it were as he says, Forbes and Romney would have both been president. Well, according to some US government website Obama's budget was ~750 million $ where as Romneys was ~ 105 million $ in 2008, 722 vs. 450 in 2012. Maybe next time republicans can get the quarter of billion dollars required to buy the presidency.Your rights end where my feelings begin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #10 September 12, 2014 QuoteBut in the end it is up to the people Not sure if this is good anymore or not With your sentence structure, grammar and spelling issues I am not sure what you are really saying here. Are you advocating it might be better if "the people" don't vote, but a different form of government/leadership is established? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #11 September 12, 2014 SkyDekkerQuoteBut in the end it is up to the people Not sure if this is good anymore or not With your sentence structure, grammar and spelling issues I am not sure what you are really saying here. Are you advocating it might be better if "the people" don't vote, but a different form of government/leadership is established? no, I am saying that the uninformed are putting in office what we have today."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #12 September 12, 2014 and just so you know, I am referring to all of them on both sides of the isle"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #13 September 12, 2014 rushmc***QuoteBut in the end it is up to the people Not sure if this is good anymore or not With your sentence structure, grammar and spelling issues I am not sure what you are really saying here. Are you advocating it might be better if "the people" don't vote, but a different form of government/leadership is established? no, I am saying that the uninformed are putting in office what we have today. I don't think they are uninformed at all. They are extremely informed, the question is what information they are getting and chosing to believe. Further, the bipolarization of your society (and to some extent the Canadian society as well) is causing people to vote "for us" or "against them". The candicate or issues aren't important anymore. Lastly, the US has a strong base of people who are almost completely single issue voters. Abortion and Gun Rights being on top of the list of deciding factors. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites