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Holder says criminal investigation launched into American journalist’s execution

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airdvr
You guys get bent out of shape when the White House doesn't follow legal procedures, then you get your panties in a wad when they do.

God forbid they use a drone strike on an ISIS target, and later discover some punk-ass American would-be jihadist from Iowa was at that target. On the other hand that would be a Republican wet dream, wouldn't it.

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You guys get bent out of shape when the White House doesn't follow legal procedures, then you get your panties in a wad when they do.

God forbid they use a drone strike on an ISIS target, and later discover some punk-ass American would-be jihadist from Iowa was at that target. On the other hand that would be a Republican wet dream, wouldn't it.

Don

This isn't a crime scene. Get real.
Please don't dent the planet.

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I say they should Scotch Tape John Doe subpoenas to 250# bombs and deliver them with B-52s.

Talk about the Long Arm of the Law...

I like the way you think. Carpet-bomb the bitches.
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This isn't a crime scene. Get real.



So when Obama sent an airstrike against an American Jihadist and was criticized for executing him without due process that wasn't real? It was just a dream?
Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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You guys get bent out of shape when the White House doesn't follow legal procedures, then you get your panties in a wad when they do.

God forbid they use a drone strike on an ISIS target, and later discover some punk-ass American would-be jihadist from Iowa was at that target. On the other hand that would be a Republican wet dream, wouldn't it.

Don

This isn't a crime scene. Get real.Scenario 1: white house follows due process. Right-wing response: Obama is a weak-ass pussy, a real man would carpet bomb the bastards!

Scenario 2: white house carpet bombs the bastards. Right-wing response: Obama is a murderer with no respect for the law!

Do I have that about right?:S

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You guys get bent out of shape when the White House doesn't follow legal procedures, then you get your panties in a wad when they do.

God forbid they use a drone strike on an ISIS target, and later discover some punk-ass American would-be jihadist from Iowa was at that target. On the other hand that would be a Republican wet dream, wouldn't it.

Don

This isn't a crime scene. Get real.Scenario 1: white house follows due process. Right-wing response: Obama is a weak-ass pussy, a real man would carpet bomb the bastards!

Scenario 2: white house carpet bombs the bastards. Right-wing response: Obama is a murderer with no respect for the law!

Do I have that about right?:S

Don

No...you missed by a mile. Do you think a crime was committed when they cut of his head? Do you think there's enough evidence to prosecute? It's not like there's a video or anything. :S This is a weak response to a terror attack. Barry's been weak in this area since the beginning and that's why there's some much shit happening now. Yea...we'll pull a Clinton and lob a few cruise missiles or hellfires off a predator and that'll be that. He needs to go back to Chicago and organize some communities.
Please don't dent the planet.

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No...you missed by a mile. Do you think a crime was committed when they cut of his head? Do you think there's enough evidence to prosecute? It's not like there's a video or anything. This is a weak response to a terror attack. Barry's been weak in this area since the beginning and that's why there's some much shit happening now. Yea...we'll pull a Clinton and lob a few cruise missiles or hellfires off a predator and that'll be that. He needs to go back to Chicago and organize some communities.



So what do you think we should do?

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You guys get bent out of shape when the White House doesn't follow legal procedures, then you get your panties in a wad when they do.

God forbid they use a drone strike on an ISIS target, and later discover some punk-ass American would-be jihadist from Iowa was at that target. On the other hand that would be a Republican wet dream, wouldn't it.

Don

My problem is the half-assed attitude. Want to get these guys and take them back to the US for a fair trial? Fine! Do that! But let's not send in spooks to abduct them. Engage in diplomacy. Get the government or tribal leader or warlord or whomever to pinch the guys and turn them over.

I DO have a problem with the DOJ performing Acts of War, assassinations, kidnappings, etc. If that's going to be the case then I will be against it.

It's time to quit straddling. Is it a war or isn't it? If the Admin wants war then ask for war and go to war. And none of the half-assed Stability and Support Operations, either. Because they don't seem to create stability.

There's my problem. "Tthis Justice Department, this Department of Defense, this nation, we have long memories and our reach is very wide..."

The Justice Department has no business having reach outside of the US. Reach outside of the US is accomplished by Department of Defense and Department of State. The DOJ has counterterrorism activites but its enforcement is limited to stateside departments.

Let's give this to either the State Department or the Department
Of Defense. (I wonder if Hagel likes that Holder is speaking for him...)


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Why don't YOU tell us what YOU would do?

Or are you, like rushmc, waiting to be told by the right wing talk shows?



I don't know John...I'm not paid to know the right thing to do. I don't think you can deal with these mindless f*^ks with hellfires.

After 9/11 I said this is the war that never ends.[:/]
Please don't dent the planet.

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This isn't a crime scene. Get real.



So when Obama sent an airstrike against an American Jihadist and was criticized for executing him without due process that wasn't real? It was just a dream?



I would think that would be the usual wet one actually..

Face it.. no matter what this president does severe tea baggery demands an opposite response. Sure lets call for WAR... as long as someone else goes and does it... an then lets bitch about sending troops.. planes... you name it..

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You guys get bent out of shape when the White House doesn't follow legal procedures, then you get your panties in a wad when they do.

God forbid they use a drone strike on an ISIS target, and later discover some punk-ass American would-be jihadist from Iowa was at that target. On the other hand that would be a Republican wet dream, wouldn't it.

Don

My problem is the half-assed attitude. Want to get these guys and take them back to the US for a fair trial? Fine! Do that! But let's not send in spooks to abduct them. Engage in diplomacy. Get the government or tribal leader or warlord or whomever to pinch the guys and turn them over.

I DO have a problem with the DOJ performing Acts of War, assassinations, kidnappings, etc. If that's going to be the case then I will be against it.

It's time to quit straddling. Is it a war or isn't it? If the Admin wants war then ask for war and go to war. And none of the half-assed Stability and Support Operations, either. Because they don't seem to create stability.

There's my problem. "Tthis Justice Department, this Department of Defense, this nation, we have long memories and our reach is very wide..."

The Justice Department has no business having reach outside of the US. Reach outside of the US is accomplished by Department of Defense and Department of State. The DOJ has counterterrorism activites but its enforcement is limited to stateside departments.

Let's give this to either the State Department or the Department
Of Defense. (I wonder if Hagel likes that Holder is speaking for him...)

I am opposed to 'no knock' raids. Knocking, in this case, should be of the Arc Light variety.

"Whoever is still alive is under arrest."

Okay, so this is but an extension of the principle that any personal problem is amenable to solution by suitable application of high explosives. This seems to be a prime circumstance for relying on that philosophy.

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Secondly, you arm and support their opposition. i.e. the Kurds



Seems the Kurds have a new tactic up their sleeve: http://clashdaily.com/2014/08/boom-kurds-send-female-soldiers-fight-isis-reason-hilarious/
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Why don't YOU tell us what YOU would do?

Or are you, like rushmc, waiting to be told by the right wing talk shows?



I don't know John...I'm not paid to know the right thing to do. I don't think you can deal with these mindless f*^ks with hellfires.

After 9/11 I said this is the war that never ends.[:/]So, you don't know what to do, that's above your pay grade, yet somehow you are aware of everything the white house is doing and you are certain that whatever Obama does he is wrong. :S

Don
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you are aware of everything the white house is doing and you are certain that whatever Obama does he is wrong.



Enlighten me on this list of things we're doing. Barry doesn't have to do anything.

“Today, I can announce that our review is complete, and that the United States will pursue a new strategy to end the war in Iraq through a transition to full Iraqi responsibility.

This strategy is grounded in a clear and achievable goal shared by the Iraqi people and the American people: an Iraq that is sovereign, stable, and self-reliant.

[W]e will work to promote an Iraqi government that is just, representative, and accountable, and that provides neither support nor safe haven to terrorists.”

Obama 2011
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you are aware of everything the white house is doing and you are certain that whatever Obama does he is wrong.



Enlighten me on this list of things we're doing. Barry doesn't have to do anything.

“Today, I can announce that our review is complete, and that the United States will pursue a new strategy to end the war in Iraq through a transition to full Iraqi responsibility.

This strategy is grounded in a clear and achievable goal shared by the Iraqi people and the American people: an Iraq that is sovereign, stable, and self-reliant.

[W]e will work to promote an Iraqi government that is just, representative, and accountable, and that provides neither support nor safe haven to terrorists.”

Obama 2011


So now the failure of Maliki ( hand selected by Shrubco) is Obamas fault.....

DUUUUUUDE.... all that ODS has got to hurt:ph34r:

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airdvr

Sorry Jeann...your guy owns this one. Typical Barry MO is to ignore the problem and hope it changes.



Do you remember me saying that Iraq would turn into ShiaStan, SunniStan and Kurdistan back when YOUR GUY was cowboying it into Iraq with his PNAC stooges cheering everyone on to a war that was unneeded to destabilize the world oil markets??

Facts matter my dear.

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