‘Respect: you’re doing it wrong’ – Obama bucks tradition, skips funeral

[airdvr 210]

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Many Americans were disappointed in the lack of White House presence at this week’s funeral for the highest-ranking officer killed in combat since Vietnam.

Clueless

Please don't dent the planet.

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airdvr

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Many Americans were disappointed in the lack of White House presence at this week’s funeral for the highest-ranking officer killed in combat since Vietnam.

Clueless

How much of a media circus would the generals family have been subjected to had he attended?

How about letting them morn in peace.

Another damned if he does, damned if he doesn't and the fringe Tea Baggery continues.

[winsor 236]

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Many Americans were disappointed in the lack of White House presence at this week’s funeral for the highest-ranking officer killed in combat since Vietnam.

Clueless

How much of a media circus would the generals family have been subjected to had he attended?

How about letting them morn in peace.

Another damned if he does, damned if he doesn't and the fringe Tea Baggery continues.

And you're busting my balls for spelling? Fair enough.

[Amazon 7]

winsor

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Many Americans were disappointed in the lack of White House presence at this week’s funeral for the highest-ranking officer killed in combat since Vietnam.

Clueless

How much of a media circus would the generals family have been subjected to had he attended?

How about letting them morn in peace.

Another damned if he does, damned if he doesn't and the fringe Tea Baggery continues.


And you're busting my balls for spelling? Fair enough.

Aww did that upset moUrn

[airdvr 210]

Amazon

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Many Americans were disappointed in the lack of White House presence at this week’s funeral for the highest-ranking officer killed in combat since Vietnam.

Clueless

How much of a media circus would the generals family have been subjected to had he attended?

How about letting them morn in peace.

Another damned if he does, damned if he doesn't and the fringe Tea Baggery continues.

That's one possibility. The other is you send the Veep, or some higher up cabinet member to pay your respects for you. He must have had a good tee time.

Please don't dent the planet.

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[Stumpy 284]

Somebody call the whaaaambulance. You'd have had a go whatever he did.
Obama sends VP to funeral - "Why couldn't he come himself - what a lack of respect!"
Obama comes to funeral - "Why did he turn up at the funeral - to score political points? - what a lack of respect!"

And yes - all sides do this. Its a non-story.

Never try to eat more than you can lift

[tonyhays 86]

What Stumpy said. A complete non-story.

“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

[kallend 2,156]

Is the soldier somehow more dead because he's a general and not a private? Is his family somehow more worthy of condolence?

The article is what's clueless.

...

The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Boomerdog 0]

Not sure the President's attendance is necessary. This was a Major General (Two Stars) and high ranking for certain but may not merit the presence of the President in accordance with protocol.

Attendance of the SECDEF and the Secretary of the Army and the Chief of Staff of the Army is probably the highest raning officials that would attend. Let's hope they did attend. It's a lock General Odierno (Army Chief of Staff) attended.

All things in the balance, it's a sad loss.

[Boomerdog 0]

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Is the soldier somehow more dead because he's a general and not a private?

That one above doesn't even rate fertilizer.

Every death of a military member KIA is a sad and serious loss. Flag Officers (Generals & Admirals) are afforded a higher level of protocol...not much but enough to recognize the fact that Flag Officers are vested with levels of responsibility well beyond the average soldier and those of us in the military wish to honor that.

As a historical point of reference. Admiral Nimitz only requested his five stars be carved on his gravestone and that the stone bear the same resemblance in stale and charachter than the most junior of rank buried in the Golden Gate National Cemetery, San Bruno, CA. Buried next to Nimitz are Admirals Spruance, Lockwood, and Turner along with their wives. And if you read their biographies you would know these were humble men vested with great responsibility who asked for no more in death than what they asked for in life, very little but just what was needed to do their jobs.

By all accounts and in the opinions of many senior military officials, Major General Greene was highly slated for higher promotion quite possibly up to four stars.

We lost a good man.

[jakee 1,599]

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As a historical point of reference. Admiral Nimitz only requested his five stars be carved on his gravestone and that the stone bear the same resemblance in stale and charachter than the most junior of rank buried in the Golden Gate National Cemetery, San Bruno, CA. Buried next to Nimitz are Admirals Spruance, Lockwood, and Turner along with their wives. And if you read their biographies you would know these were humble men vested with great responsibility who asked for no more in death than what they asked for in life, very little but just what was needed to do their jobs.

I think that's exactly Kallend's point.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[billvon 3,121]

>Is the soldier somehow more dead because he's a general and not a private?

Great point! Airdvr's next post:

"Obama skips funeral for private killed in maintenance accident? Why can't he even _pretend_ he gives a shit for the brave men and women working in the Armed Forces?"

[Boomerdog 0]

General Greene was buried at Arlington National Cemetery and I'm gonna bet his marker is standard like a large majority of those buried there.

[jakee 1,599]

Boomerdog

General Greene was buried at Arlington National Cemetery and I'm gonna bet his marker is standard like a large majority of those buried there.

Which, again, is pretty much exactly Kallend's point.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[airdvr 210]

kallend

Is the soldier somehow more dead because he's a general and not a private? Is his family somehow more worthy of condolence?

The article is what's clueless.

When you are the Commander in Chief and one of your Generals is killed you should probably make a bit more of an effort. But...that's OK. We know Barry doesn't understand or concern himself with military protocol.

Please don't dent the planet.

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[jakee 1,599]

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We know Barry doesn't understand or concern himself with military protocol.

A) What protocol?

B) Should elected politicians be bound by military protocol?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[Amazon 7]

Boomerdog

General Greene was buried at Arlington National Cemetery and I'm gonna bet his marker is standard like a large majority of those buried there.

Indeed.

I have been there a few times and walked that ground and I have a few relatives buried there including my uncle and his son my first cousin. The land itself once belonged to our quite large southern extended family.

I think its a point of honor in Arlington that all of those departed get the same stone to mark their grave. In death all of those buried there have found equality.

[Boomerdog 0]

What we see is a mix equality but also uniformity, respect and deference. The leader does not overbear on the subordinate but the subordinate should never forget who the leader is.

The commander of a unit, a division, an air wing, a carrier battle group, etc. is only first among equals and the real leaders i.e. the succesfull leaders know it. I had the priviledge to serve with a few years ago. Their leadership was sound, they knew who they were and that the men and women under their command was their most important resource.

[Andy9o8 2]

airdvr

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Is the soldier somehow more dead because he's a general and not a private? Is his family somehow more worthy of condolence?

The article is what's clueless.

When you are the Commander in Chief and one of your Generals is killed you should probably make a bit more of an effort. But...that's OK. We know Barry doesn't understand or concern himself with military protocol.

Yeah, we get that's your try. It's a fail. See above.

[airdvr 210]

Andy9o8

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Is the soldier somehow more dead because he's a general and not a private? Is his family somehow more worthy of condolence?

The article is what's clueless.

When you are the Commander in Chief and one of your Generals is killed you should probably make a bit more of an effort. But...that's OK. We know Barry doesn't understand or concern himself with military protocol.

Yeah, we get that's your try. It's a fail. See above.

I get that you don't understand how leadership works.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[Andy9o8 2]

airdvr

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Is the soldier somehow more dead because he's a general and not a private? Is his family somehow more worthy of condolence?

The article is what's clueless.

When you are the Commander in Chief and one of your Generals is killed you should probably make a bit more of an effort. But...that's OK. We know Barry doesn't understand or concern himself with military protocol.

Yeah, we get that's your try. It's a fail. See above.

I get that you don't understand how leadership works.

Strike two, swinging.

[airdvr 210]

Andy9o8

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Is the soldier somehow more dead because he's a general and not a private? Is his family somehow more worthy of condolence?

The article is what's clueless.

When you are the Commander in Chief and one of your Generals is killed you should probably make a bit more of an effort. But...that's OK. We know Barry doesn't understand or concern himself with military protocol.

Yeah, we get that's your try. It's a fail. See above.

I get that you don't understand how leadership works.

Strike two, swinging.

You have no problem with it...I get it.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[Andy9o8 2]

airdvr

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Is the soldier somehow more dead because he's a general and not a private? Is his family somehow more worthy of condolence?

The article is what's clueless.

When you are the Commander in Chief and one of your Generals is killed you should probably make a bit more of an effort. But...that's OK. We know Barry doesn't understand or concern himself with military protocol.

Yeah, we get that's your try. It's a fail. See above.

I get that you don't understand how leadership works.

Strike two, swinging.

You have no problem with it...I get it.

Struck him out swinging.

[jclalor 12]

Perhaps you can remind all of us the number of military funerals President Bush attended while he was in office, or how many times he met the C-130's at Dover AFB, that were transporting fallen soldiers back home.

[airdvr 210]

jclalor

Perhaps you can remind all of us the number of military funerals President Bush attended while he was in office, or how many times he met the C-130's at Dover AFB, that were transporting fallen soldiers back home.

So you're back to the "my guy is no better than W" defense.

Please don't dent the planet.

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