rushmc 23 #801 October 10, 2014 SkyDekkerDestroying their town? What you call candle light vigil, that article describes as demonstrations. Including pictures of signs that read "hands up, don't shoot", directly taken from the Ferguson incident. I read those two incidents and think there is a huge racially charged issue in the US. You appear to be reading it as white people reacting better than black people. You might be part of the problem.you need more news sources"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #802 October 11, 2014 SkyDekker *** Quote Then you stated that you somewhat agree with his position though. So, you are sympathetic to what he (someone you labeled a terrorist) is fighting for. He was wrong to not pay like he should have, your right I agreed. He was wrong to not move his cattle, your right, I also agreed. He was wrong to threaten violence which I said could label him a terrorist, your right, I said he was engaging in a form of terrorism. I stated a position that Americans shouldn't have been in this situation from the beginning due to federal land grab. I never sympathized with him for not paying, remaining after forbidden, or threatening the government. How you made that jump leads me to believe your just a shit stirrer also. That man wore pants, do you wear pants? If you do your a fuckin terrorist.......Im done talking to you about this, and going back onto topic. So do you think that labelling the people in Ferguson, who might just be very fed up with the way hey have been treated, as terrorists is beneficial to resolving the dispute? Look how you reacted to being labelled a terrorist sympathiser. Then go back a couple of posts above that, where you are trying to label an entire group as potential terrorists. So which topic do you want to discuss? How these situations can be resolved, what might be underlying issues? Or how to keep these uppity potential terrorists in check? In fact from what I've seen most of the people protesting in ferguson, are not from ferguson. In fact I've seen multiple interviews with people actually 'from' ferguson who really wish all the outsiders would go away and leave them alone. And some of these people, who want nothing to do with the protestors and are often scared of leaving their homes to go to work incase they are damaged or their families may be harmed, are black.If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #803 October 11, 2014 QuoteStill lot's of black on black murder but that's ok..... the leaders of the black community will get around to that issue....just a little later..... right. You're inventing facts, or in this instance, a lack of facts. As has been pointed out many times, condemnation of urban violence is fairly common and frequent among, for example, black clergy, mothers sticking their necks out to have vigils against violence, etc., etc. These are most often done at the local level, and get reported locally. And that's not all of it, either. Just because you're oblivious to it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. But saying it doesn't happen is a popular and oft-repeated meme among the crypto-bigots. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #804 October 12, 2014 ROTFLOL.... My entire point Mr. Lawyer WAS that black leadership was falling down on this point. Get off your high horse, google news reports about Sharpton, Jackson. See how many speeches they've made and how often they make them on this subject. As far as my being oblivious, you do know me or my motivations. The black on black murder rate IS a national tragedy. If you truly believe that the black national leadership is addressing this issue aggressively than if I'm a crypto-bigot as your suggesting.... Well I guess I'll just accept that for what it's worth given the source.Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #805 October 12, 2014 Pfft. More stock meme. This will shock the shit out of you, but life is lived at the local level, and Jesse and Al aren't the presumptive spokesmen of most African Americans any more than Buzz or Jeb are the presumptive spokesmen of the skydiving community. Jesus H. Christ, all you rednecks, get off the "Jackson and Sharpton" slogans already- it's long past obsolete. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #806 October 12, 2014 Redneck? Really. Well that's a brilliant as calling you an ambulance chaser. Given you profession, you'd think you'd have a higher intellect when it comes try attempting to insult someone. I've been called worse by much better. Look at numbers, stop the emotional rants. Do some research, surely you can. Educate yourself and make informed decision. Nobody impressed with you overreaction, and insults. As where life is lived.... Look up national leadership.Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,564 #807 October 12, 2014 mirage62 I've been called worse by much better. Um, well done?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,112 #808 October 12, 2014 mirage62 . I've been called worse by much better. Thank you for the endorsement. ... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,112 #809 October 12, 2014 mirage62ROTFLOL.... My entire point Mr. Lawyer WAS that black leadership was falling down on this point. Get off your high horse, google news reports about Sharpton, Jackson. See how many speeches they've made and how often they make them on this subject. Click here.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,112 #810 October 12, 2014 mirage62ROTFLOL.... My entire point Mr. Lawyer WAS that black leadership was falling down on this point. www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chapman/ct-black-crime-ferguson-sharpton-jason-riley-steve-20140820-column.html (For the record, the author, Steve Chapman, is a white Libertarian.)... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #811 October 12, 2014 John, I expect better from you. Check the dates on much if your search. Certainly Jackson back in 1994 (I believe) spoke on black on black crime. Where are the large national (Regardless of others "local" comments) national marches? I'm not interested in lip service, I'm talking about leadership.Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,112 #812 October 12, 2014 mirage62John, I expect better from you. Check the dates on much if your search. Certainly Jackson back in 1994 (I believe) spoke on black on black crime. Where are the large national (Regardless of others "local" comments) national marches? I'm not interested in lip service, I'm talking about leadership. YOU wrote: Quote google news reports about Sharpton, Jackson. See how many speeches they've made and how often they make them on this subject. Well, I did that for you. Apparently they both have done this, and Jackson quite frequently.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #813 October 12, 2014 so you're ignoring the context of the discussion to pick nits. Just so we're clear on that.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #814 October 12, 2014 rhaigso you're ignoring the context of the discussion to pick nits. Just so we're clear on that. 10/10 Irony score. Congratulations!Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #815 October 12, 2014 jcd11235***so you're ignoring the context of the discussion to pick nits. Just so we're clear on that. 10/10 Irony score. Congratulations! I didn't think it would get a 10/10, but thank you for acknowledging my efforts.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,112 #816 October 12, 2014 rhaigso you're ignoring the context of the discussion to pick nits. Just so we're clear on that. Nope, I'm pointing out that I answered his question and in response HE moved the goal posts. Apparently with your approval.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #817 October 12, 2014 Really, "quite frequently"? Given the severity of the problem you see these responses as often enough? You see a lot of speeches, I guess. I see a weak ineffective amount. As far as you google example. I didn't need it. I had researched it. Again I don't see it as a great effort. Someone called me a "redneck" here.... (Oh and I was crushed) Some may think I'm a racist. I don't believe I am. My point was that a police shooting of a black youth gets a lot more attention than the "normally" black on black murder rate. Certainly that is because a police shooting is RARE when compared with the black on black murder rate. It's just a numbered fact. Apparently many here are satisfied w the efforts of the national leadership to address this problem. (Or the local level) I'm not.Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #818 October 12, 2014 Well, one more reason that cops killing unarmed blacks gets a lot more than "black on black" killings is that no one really expects the gang bangers and drug dealers to listen to the community leaders, clergy and grieving moms. The "bad guys" also don't have "To Protect and Serve" on the side of their cars. When I was young, I was taught that the cops were there to help people. When they stop helping and start hurting, there's a problem."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #819 October 12, 2014 kallend***so you're ignoring the context of the discussion to pick nits. Just so we're clear on that. Nope, I'm pointing out that I answered his question and in response HE moved the goal posts. Apparently with your approval. no, we just know that picking nits is the only way you can make yourself think your argument holds water. It's ok. We'll let you have that delusion.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,112 #820 October 13, 2014 rhaig******so you're ignoring the context of the discussion to pick nits. Just so we're clear on that. Nope, I'm pointing out that I answered his question and in response HE moved the goal posts. Apparently with your approval. no, we just know that picking nits is the only way you can make yourself think your argument holds water. It's ok. We'll let you have that delusion. "God is in the details", Ludwig Mies van der Rohe. Someone has to attend to the details, and clearly it's not you.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #821 October 13, 2014 kallend "God is in the details", Ludwig Mies van der Rohe. Someone has to attend to the details, and clearly it's not you. Clearly. You sound like my wife. Now put on your big girl panties and go teach some physics. When my freshman physics prof explained the Cavendish experiment, he made the observation that you get better results if you use really heavy balls. He then queued the music (AC/DC) and got a laugh. There is something to be said about levity. Even when it's not politically correct.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,112 #822 October 13, 2014 rhaig*** "God is in the details", Ludwig Mies van der Rohe. Someone has to attend to the details, and clearly it's not you. Clearly. You sound like my wife. Now put on your big girl panties and go teach some physics. Resorting to insults is a clear indication that you know you are wrong.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #823 October 13, 2014 Quote Resorting to insults is a clear indication that you know you are wrong. Funny I had to point the same thing out to you yesterday! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #824 October 13, 2014 Quote Resorting to insults is a clear indication that you know you are wrong. John......did you really just POST that??? Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #825 October 13, 2014 cvfd1399 Quote Resorting to insults is a clear indication that you know you are wrong. Funny I had to point the same thing out to you yesterday! It's an almost everyday occurrence.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
