rushmc 23 #751 October 8, 2014 jcd11235*********And as of yet, there is absolutly no evidence that shows he was a racist cop With police in the US, that seems to be the justified null hypothesis. So, now I will ask you for the list of all the black kids shot by white cops in say the last two years If there is that many of them you should have no problem finding that list Are you suggesting that a cop can only be racist if he actually shoots black kids? No I am saying is this does not happen very often at all Once in the last two years that I am aware of It is reported as though it happens all the time It does not AND No one yet knows if racism was involved in Fergeson But it is being reported as though it is"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #752 October 8, 2014 rushmcQuoteAre you suggesting that a cop can only be racist if he actually shoots black kids? No So your challenge is a red herring.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #753 October 8, 2014 jcd11235***QuoteAre you suggesting that a cop can only be racist if he actually shoots black kids? No So your challenge is a red herring. Not at all Prove me wrong if you can Show me all the white racist cops shooting black kid stories Funny you move off target so quickly"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #754 October 8, 2014 rushmcShow me all the white racist cops shooting black kid stories Do you ever address arguments actually made, or do you just waste everyone's time building straw men?Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #755 October 8, 2014 jcd11235***Show me all the white racist cops shooting black kid stories Do you ever address arguments actually made, or do you just waste everyone's time building straw men? Actually I go back on topic and do not let others drag me off Like you tried to do"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #756 October 8, 2014 rushmc******Show me all the white racist cops shooting black kid stories Do you ever address arguments actually made, or do you just waste everyone's time building straw men? Actually I go back on topic and do not let others drag me off Like you tried to do At least your posts are good for comic relief.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #757 October 8, 2014 jcd11235*********Show me all the white racist cops shooting black kid stories Do you ever address arguments actually made, or do you just waste everyone's time building straw men? Actually I go back on topic and do not let others drag me off Like you tried to do At least your posts are good for comic relief. ditto"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #758 October 8, 2014 SkyDekkerI think one racist cop is an issue worth dealing with, specially if he ends up killing a kid. Not so sure why that was such a difficult question for you, that you had to try and duck it? Meanwhile cops all over the country for as long as there has been cops have been getting shot and killed by perps of all colors. I don't see cops rioting in the streets when one of theirs gets killed in the line of duty. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bfd_1412749703 Also when Ben Affleck calls Bill Maher [of all people] a racist (regarding muslims) then it should be well known that the word racism is thrown around so much it should lose its true meaning. Its like the little boy that cried wolf. Get a new word. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #759 October 8, 2014 QuoteMeanwhile cops all over the country for as long as there has been cops have been getting shot and killed by perps of all colors. I don't see cops rioting in the streets when one of theirs gets killed in the line of duty. Ahh ok...so when a cop kills and we aren't quite sure if it is valid we should just chalk it up to..... Revenge? Payback? Evening the score? Comes with the job? No big issue? Depends on who the dead person is? Any of the above? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #760 October 8, 2014 regulatorMeanwhile cops all over the country for as long as there has been cops have been getting shot and killed by perps of all colors. So? They know it's a hazardous job when they sign up. That doesn't justify shooting an unarmed person just because they aren't 100 percent sure that person poses no threat. If they want safety, they should find a different line of work. Cops are supposed to be professionals. They should be held to a much higher standard than civilians, not a lower standard.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #761 October 8, 2014 http://0391e10.netsolhost.com/blog/2014/08/23/police-involved-shooting-statistics-a-national-one-year-summary/ BOY - I'm being serious - why is it so hard to find facts on shootings? It would seem the FBI would track it like a hawk....and maybe they do but I couldn't lay hands on it. 2011 police shot in USA 1,146 people of which according to the above source 607 dead. As I mention I'm really trying not to comment, just share this information.Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,080 #762 October 8, 2014 >But play your silly games, don't look at the elephant in the room because it's just >easy to be PC correct. Interesting. You do to me exactly what you accuse others of doing - and it's my "silly game." OK then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #763 October 8, 2014 SkyDekkerQuoteMeanwhile cops all over the country for as long as there has been cops have been getting shot and killed by perps of all colors. I don't see cops rioting in the streets when one of theirs gets killed in the line of duty. Ahh ok...so when a cop kills and we aren't quite sure if it is valid we should just chalk it up to..... Revenge? Payback? Evening the score? Comes with the job? No big issue? Depends on who the dead person is? Any of the above? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #764 October 8, 2014 It's like trying to trust the government in general. Personally my father is a 45+ year law enforcement officer. Ive been around my fair share of police on both sides of the law. Just because police are trained on how to be good cops doesn't mean they'll act like good cops. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #765 October 8, 2014 So you've seen all the evidence in the Michael brown case? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #766 October 8, 2014 regulatorSo you've seen all the evidence in the Michael brown case? Are you claiming that Michael Brown was armed?Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #767 October 8, 2014 How on earth can you derive your query from my question? You are talking like you've seen all the evidence already and you're astonished as to why he hasn't been charged yet. I just asked if you've seen all the evidence. I mean surely you have some insider information right? If not, then hold on to your speculations until they choose to not indict him, or charge him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #768 October 9, 2014 regulatorHow on earth can you derive your query from my question? Read my post, to which your question replied. It was not specific to the Michael Brown case. The only way your question was in any way relevant was if Michael Brown was in fact armed (which we know was not the case).Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #769 October 9, 2014 regulatorMeanwhile cops all over the country for as long as there has been cops have been getting shot and killed by perps of all colors. I don't see cops rioting in the streets when one of theirs gets killed in the line of duty. Why would police riot over an officer being shot and killed when the whole department can drop everything else and go on a manhunt for the person they think did it and railroad the sumbitch if necessary? ...maybe shoot up some random peoples' vehicles while they're at it "because pickup truck." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,112 #770 October 9, 2014 Not a shooting - fortunately they just used pepper spray on a black kid in his own home. www.cbsnews.com/news/nc-police-pepper-spray-black-teen-thinking-foster-son-is-burglar/... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #771 October 9, 2014 Does a person have to be armed to be shot by a cop? Is that your only criteria? On another note, they are threatening to riot if they don't charge the cop again, and another person SHOT three times at a cop and was then killed in St. Louis and they are threatening a riot over that. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #772 October 9, 2014 I'll throw this one on you, this guy wasn't armed. http://www.odmp.org/officer/7964-police-officer-linda-a-lawrence This was an officer in my town. I have seen the reenactment video, it's brutal. QuoteOfficer Lawrence was shot and killed while she and her training officer were at the scene of a residential burglary call. The officers encountered the suspect in the bedroom of the house and were attacked by him. The suspect managed to gain control of Officer Lawrence's service revolver and shot her once in the chest. Officer Lawrence's FTO struggled with the man for several more minutes before he was able to fatally shoot the suspect. The suspect was shot a total of ten times with .357 caliber rounds before he finally stopped the assault on the officers. You don't have to be armed to be shot and this is why. This guy started out unarmed, beat the female cop unconscious, got her gun killed her, while her partner shot him until his revolver was empty and it did not stop him. The officer then huddled in the corner WHILE BEING BEATEN by the suspect and reloaded his revolver, he was then able to turn around, and fire more shots until, finally he was able to shoot him in the head. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #773 October 9, 2014 http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/off-duty-st-louis-cop-kills-man-sparking-protest/ar-BB8fYZs Looks like any shooting by a police office in larger cities will be meet with protest. Perhaps that isn't a terrible thing..... as long as property destruction can be eliminated and other people aren't injured. The reported details would make it seem that the police officer was certainly justified. I find it funny that they comment how many times the officer fired.Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #774 October 9, 2014 I completely understand a concern after any shooting, and the need to get to the truth, and have justice served...etc...etc.., but isnt the threat of violence, and property destruction if someone doesn't get their way extortion, blackmail, or some other law? In fact the threat or action of violence, arson etc to coherse government meets the definition of terrorism in my state. QuoteSUBPART D. ANTI-TERRORISM §128.1. Terrorism A. Terrorism is the commission of any of the acts enumerated in this Subsection, when the offender has the intent to intimidate or coerce the civilian population, influence the policy of a unit of government by intimidation or coercion, or affect the conduct of a unit of government by intimidation or coercion: (1) Intentional killing of a human being. (2) Intentional infliction of serious bodily injury upon a human being. (3) Kidnapping of a human being. (4) Aggravated arson upon any structure, watercraft, or movable. (5) Intentional aggravated criminal damage to property. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #775 October 9, 2014 So you would agree that the right wing rancher who had that standoff making all kinds of threats was a terrorist? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites