Riots over a shoting turn into free jordans and 40's

[kallend 2,147]

Anvilbrother

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"THEM(EVERYONE) vs US"Unsure

as a civilian, this is a very big part of the problem to me.Mad

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/13/pennsylvania-police-barracks-shooting/15574705/

This is what happens if police are not using their survival awareness, always being prepared for anything while on duty. They get killed.

***Pennsylvania State Police are searching for a suspect or suspects after two troopers were ambushed outside a police barracks in Blooming Grove, Pa. during a late-night shift change, leaving one dead and another injured.

Is the state police barracks one of those gun free zones you folks are always saying will attract shooters?

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[mirage62 0]

Damn John that's cold even for you. A man died here. Poor form man.

Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

[normiss 893]

Yet when it's a poor inner city black kid, it's ok.

[champu 1]

My favorite part of this thread is the misspelling in the title, which I read aloud to myself each time it bubbles up to the top of the forum.

[Amazon 7]

champu

My favorite part of this thread is the misspelling in the title, which I read aloud to myself each time it bubbles up to the top of the forum.

I think of it as a strange form of track and fields shot put.. only made of shit.

[normiss 893]

yep.

[kallend 2,147]

mirage62

Damn John that's cold even for you. A man died here. Poor form man.

A kid died in Ferguson and the right went overboard in smearing his character and lying about him. Why didn't you complain about that?

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[normiss 893]

It seems some think it's ok if the cops tell enough lies.
Clearly we civilians deserve to be murdered by cops.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

kallend

Is the state police barracks one of those gun free zones you folks are always saying will attract shooters?

I don't know what the specific rules are in PA, but a lot of states make police stations (along with schools, prisons and secure mental health care facilites) "No Concealed Carry" areas. Civilian carry, that is. Cops are allowed to be armed just about everywhere.
It's usually part of the law defining concealed carry.

So the answer to your question is "Probably yes."

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[rushmc 23]

Hmmm
A surprise?

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Poll: Black & White Ferguson Residents Agree - Media Made Things Worse

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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2014/09/16/poll-black-white-ferguson-residents-agree-media-made-things-worse

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[normiss 893]

While I'm not much of a Mark O'Mara fan, I do appreciate his perspective on Cultural bias based on race issue we have.
I think the overreaction we are seeing these days are that people are simply tired of being treated the way the police tend to treat them.
The police need to do better. We're not all violent criminals.

[rushmc 23]

normiss

While I'm not much of a Mark O'Mara fan, I do appreciate his perspective on Cultural bias based on race issue we have.
I think the overreaction we are seeing these days are that people are simply tired of being treated the way the police tend to treat them.
The police need to do better. We're not all violent criminals.

I generally agree with what you say here
That said however
Many seem to think that the police are killing young black males regularly
This is NOT the case

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[normiss 893]

From your perspective.

Were you an inner city, young, poor black man I would expect a different opinion.

[rushmc 23]

normiss

From your perspective.

Were you an inner city, young, poor black man I would expect a different opinion.

Are you saying young black males are being shot regualarly by police?

If so, please shoe me the stories

But you really do not have to look. It is rare that it happens

Now, young black males are shooting each other everyday
but this is not what we are talking about

Remember, the rest of your point I generally agreed with

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[SkyDekker 1,465]

rushmc

***From your perspective.

Were you an inner city, young, poor black man I would expect a different opinion.

Are you saying young black males are being shot regualarly by police?

If so, please shoe me the stories

But you really do not have to look. It is rare that it happens

Now, young black males are shooting each other everyday
but this is not what we are talking about

Remember, the rest of your point I generally agreed with

You see emotions boil over because there is already a very strained relationship.

The protests over the shooting are a culmination, the shooting was just the incident that triggered it.

There is a very clear perception among most black communities that police deal with them differently than with white people.

[normiss 893]

It appears you didn't read the piece.

[DanG 1]

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Are you saying young black males are being shot regualarly by police?

This issue can be bigger than race.

Citizens, regardless of color, are being shot regularly by the police. It Ferguson, there was uinderlying racial tension, too, but then the police made it worse by trying to brush the shooting under the rug.

It was only partly about black and white.

As Sublime so sublimely put it:

"They said it was for the black man
They said it was for the Mexican
And not for the white man
But if you look at the streets, it wasn't about Rodney King
In this fucked-up situation and these fucked-up police
It's about comin' up and stayin' on top
And screamin' 1-8-7 on a mother fuckin' cop
It's not in the paper, it's on the wall..."

- Dan G

[Anvilbrother 0]

Please show me how 20 or so people are shot unjustifiably per year is an out of control pandemic. Not saying it's ok, but more people are killed by cops who are texting or looking at their computer while driving than are shot and killed out of hate or wrongdoing.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States

There is between 212-400 police shooting per year, only about 12-20 were not justified. This justification was usually the person was shooting at the cop, or was holding a hostage.(spare me the bullshit argument about who investigated the shootings, and that all 400 were murders)

12-20 cops go rogue and kill out of 314 million people in the us is pretty good odds to me. I'm more worried about drunk drivers than a cop shooting me. There are over 10,000 drunk driving deaths per year.

Once again I'm not saying it's right, it's just not the huge out of control omg we need to riot issue that people here are making it out to be.

Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

[rushmc 23]

SkyDekker

******From your perspective.

Were you an inner city, young, poor black man I would expect a different opinion.

Are you saying young black males are being shot regualarly by police?

If so, please shoe me the stories

But you really do not have to look. It is rare that it happens

Now, young black males are shooting each other everyday
but this is not what we are talking about

Remember, the rest of your point I generally agreed with

You see emotions boil over because there is already a very strained relationship.

The protests over the shooting are a culmination, the shooting was just the incident that triggered it.

There is a very clear perception among most black communities that police deal with them differently than with white people.

AGAIN

I agreed with the strained relationships
This is not just happening with the blacks but that is aside

But, to infer that police are killing young black males regularly is a lie and and bunch of shit meant only to stir emotions

And the simple fact that you nor anyone else can provide a bunch of stories that indicate otherwise, validates my point

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

DanG

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Are you saying young black males are being shot regualarly by police?

This issue can be bigger than race.

Citizens, regardless of color, are being shot regularly by the police. It Ferguson, there was uinderlying racial tension, too, but then the police made it worse by trying to brush the shooting under the rug.

It was only partly about black and white.

As Sublime so sublimely put it:

"They said it was for the black man
They said it was for the Mexican
And not for the white man
But if you look at the streets, it wasn't about Rodney King
In this fucked-up situation and these fucked-up police
It's about comin' up and stayin' on top
And screamin' 1-8-7 on a mother fuckin' cop
It's not in the paper, it's on the wall..."

Oh boy
here comes the side stepping

Maybe a two step for you

this is a thread where people rioted because police killed a young black male
Rightfully or not we do not yet know
The inference you many here and the media is this happens often
the fact is

It really does not
Oh
and

The police did not make it worse
The media, Obama and the DOJ did
you are buying into the blame the police bull shit

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

Anvilbrother

Please show me how 20 or so people are shot unjustifiably per year is an out of control pandemic. Not saying it's ok, but more people are killed by cops who are texting or looking at their computer while driving than are shot and killed out of hate or wrongdoing.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States

There is between 212-400 police shooting per year, only about 12-20 were not justified. This justification was usually the person was shooting at the cop, or was holding a hostage.(spare me the bullshit argument about who investigated the shootings, and that all 400 were murders)

12-20 cops go rogue and kill out of 314 million people in the us is pretty good odds to me. I'm more worried about drunk drivers than a cop shooting me. There are over 10,000 drunk driving deaths per year.

Once again I'm not saying it's right, it's just not the huge out of control omg we need to riot issue that people here are making it out to be.

Liberals think police are evil racists bastards and the info you give does NOT fit this world view
So it will be off handedly dismissed

I personally think the police are taking too much power but, that is another thread

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[SkyDekker 1,465]

rushmc

*********From your perspective.

Were you an inner city, young, poor black man I would expect a different opinion.

Are you saying young black males are being shot regualarly by police?

If so, please shoe me the stories

But you really do not have to look. It is rare that it happens

Now, young black males are shooting each other everyday
but this is not what we are talking about

Remember, the rest of your point I generally agreed with

You see emotions boil over because there is already a very strained relationship.

The protests over the shooting are a culmination, the shooting was just the incident that triggered it.

There is a very clear perception among most black communities that police deal with them differently than with white people.

AGAIN

I agreed with the strained relationships
This is not just happening with the blacks but that is aside

But, to infer that police are killing young black males regularly is a lie and and bunch of shit meant only to stir emotions

And the simple fact that you nor anyone else can provide a bunch of stories that indicate otherwise, validates my point

AGAIN

Nobody is making that assertion.

[rushmc 23]

SkyDekker

************From your perspective.

Were you an inner city, young, poor black man I would expect a different opinion.

Are you saying young black males are being shot regualarly by police?

If so, please shoe me the stories

But you really do not have to look. It is rare that it happens

Now, young black males are shooting each other everyday
but this is not what we are talking about

Remember, the rest of your point I generally agreed with

You see emotions boil over because there is already a very strained relationship.

The protests over the shooting are a culmination, the shooting was just the incident that triggered it.

There is a very clear perception among most black communities that police deal with them differently than with white people.

AGAIN

I agreed with the strained relationships
This is not just happening with the blacks but that is aside

But, to infer that police are killing young black males regularly is a lie and and bunch of shit meant only to stir emotions

And the simple fact that you nor anyone else can provide a bunch of stories that indicate otherwise, validates my point

AGAIN

Nobody is making that assertion.

The fucking media is!

And its lapdog follows are licking it up

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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The fucking media is!

And its lapdog follows are licking it up

You have a list where established media is making these assertions?

[normiss 893]

I still say we can't say that in re: police shootings.
When a cop shoots and kills, how much faith do you expect citizens to have in the system when it's investigated by his buddies in the same cop shop?

ALL cop involved shootings should be investigated fully outside the blue line from that station up the chain.

Same reason why when I perform forensic network investigations, those are performed entirely outside the scope of my organization that I work directly under. I can't have a boss telling me how to perform or not perform those. It's a conflict of interest risk that cannot be taken due to legalities.
A full legal course MUST be followed and not interfered with in any way. With internet crime, we understood this almost 20 years ago. HR nor any boss over me can NOT interfere with the process so as to not contaminate evidence.

I think cop shops are in dire need of addressing this.