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[JohnnyMarko 1]

Is English your first language?

[normiss 893]

I think a number of us are fairly versed in bourbon as the hours get late.
Or early.
Depends on your perspective.

[mirage62 0]

Naaaaa, my spelling or grammar is terrible. I really don't give a shit that others want to comment on it. If I wasn't fucking off....in other words if it was business I would have my secretary proof it.

Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

[mirage62 0]

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You do not travel out of the country much do you?

LOL, we obviously aren't friends on FB. Just got back from 12 days in touring the Greek islands and days in Venice. I've travelled overseas approx. 10 times.

You can decide if that qualifies as "much".

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We have lost that.. we have a police force more akin to right wing police states with the biggest bullies rising to the top of their local cesspools.

See THATS where you and I disagree. Personally I believe that you are talking about a small minority. I am 54 years old, my experience with police have been minimal but I'm not a thug. (Not suggesting you are)

Sensible gun laws could change the equation. In other countries the police are not likely to face an armed bad guy. Here it is different.

Until THAT changes, it isn't England, the bad guys are arm to the teeth. To compare endlessly how great the English police are (as far as not shooting people) is just dumb.

Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

[normiss 893]

He had his bleeping hands up!

Few more witnesses. NOT locals either.
Couple of white fellahs at that.
Still looks like bad cop to me - just based on what little we do know anyway.

[mirage62 0]

I'd say this is pretty damning.

Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

[skycop 0]

You, me, and every other poster here has no idea what happened.
The eyes of the world are on this Grand Jury, they will take their time and hopefully make the right choice.
The thing for certain is, there are going to be very unhappy people regardless of what is decided.

"Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!"

[normiss 893]

Hence my wording.

ETA: Although, if the shoe was on the other foot and had this many eye witnesses...I'd be curious to see how quickly those charges would come.

[Anvilbrother 0]

No this is just another video that will have to be put to the test against others. They say this was taken moments after, but you see an officer putting up crime tape. You dont hop out and just start doing that. This had to be 5-10 minutes later.

From this video clip we see a guy saying he was facing him with hands up, the other girl said he was walking away and was shot in the back, and the final guy with cooper said he was facing the cop, balled up, and then was shot. Just from this clip we cant even form an idea of what happened.

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[billvon 3,114]

Not directed at you but it is amusing to see the meme change from "the cop had a BROKEN EYE SOCKET! Of course he was justified in killing the dangerous criminal who viciously attacked him in broad daylight" to "we have no idea what happened."

[mirage62 0]

Bill make a very valid point, I will add that the officer involved in this shooting obviously didn't put out the story of the broken eye socket.

Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

[turtlespeed 226]

mirage62

We all us that lean right know that a civil discussion w Amazon is difficult at best, she just seems to have to put something snarky in her reply.

There are literally 100's of videos of police do something wrong - they make great press and the officers SHOULD BE punished to the extreme because of the position they hold in society.

That being the case I point out like the flash of a cop doing something bad is balanced by the LITERALLY 100,000 of times they do good.

Normiss post was spot on. The police have to prove there innocence like everyone else. AND be held to a higher standard.

Some here just believe that the police in majority are bad, I think the opposite.

Man oh man oh man did you just nail it right the F**k on the head of the nail.

Last time I checked - it used to be that you were innocent until proven guilty.

The problem we have now is that is more illusion that reality.

THAT is where we need to start problem solving.

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[airdvr 210]

billvon

Not directed at you but it is amusing to see the meme change from "the cop had a BROKEN EYE SOCKET! Of course he was justified in killing the dangerous criminal who viciously attacked him in broad daylight" to "we have no idea what happened."

Unfortunately we don't see the same meme change from the left. It's still the gentle giant with his hands up.

I wonder why it took so long for CNN to get that video.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[kallend 2,147]

turtlespeed

***We all us that lean right know that a civil discussion w Amazon is difficult at best, she just seems to have to put something snarky in her reply.

There are literally 100's of videos of police do something wrong - they make great press and the officers SHOULD BE punished to the extreme because of the position they hold in society.

That being the case I point out like the flash of a cop doing something bad is balanced by the LITERALLY 100,000 of times they do good.

Normiss post was spot on. The police have to prove there innocence like everyone else. AND be held to a higher standard.

Some here just believe that the police in majority are bad, I think the opposite.

Man oh man oh man did you just nail it right the F**k on the head of the nail.

Last time I checked - it used to be that you were innocent until proven guilty.



And shouldn't that apply to Michael Brown too? Yet not only is he lied about and smeared, he is also shot dead by LEO.

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[kallend 2,147]

skycop

You, me, and every other poster here has no idea what happened.

A-MAZING INSIGHT.

See posts 349, 459, 480 and 514, this thread.

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[SkyDekker 1,465]

turtlespeed

***We all us that lean right know that a civil discussion w Amazon is difficult at best, she just seems to have to put something snarky in her reply.

There are literally 100's of videos of police do something wrong - they make great press and the officers SHOULD BE punished to the extreme because of the position they hold in society.

That being the case I point out like the flash of a cop doing something bad is balanced by the LITERALLY 100,000 of times they do good.

Normiss post was spot on. The police have to prove there innocence like everyone else. AND be held to a higher standard.

Some here just believe that the police in majority are bad, I think the opposite.

Man oh man oh man did you just nail it right the F**k on the head of the nail.

Last time I checked - it used to be that you were innocent until proven guilty.

The problem we have now is that is more illusion that reality.

THAT is where we need to start problem solving.

The issue is that there is a very clear perception among society that police officers routinely get away with making mistakes that have life changing consequences for the civilians affected.

Cops getting investigated and cleared by cops, often from the same department.

[billvon 3,114]

>Unfortunately we don't see the same meme change from the left.

That's fortunate. They've been calling for an investigation since day one. And it is happening, which is good.

[airdvr 210]

billvon

>Unfortunately we don't see the same meme change from the left.

That's fortunate. They've been calling for an investigation since day one. And it is happening, which is good.

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8/14
Probably the same reason white cops shoot unarmed black people.
I grew up in Ferguson, MO. The police are assholes, nothing less. Doesn't matter what color your skin is to them. They have equal disdain for all races. Fuck the Ferguson police. They'll get what they deserve.
Too many of our police only have the military approach in their toolbox.
And as long as we can have officers willing to kill EVERYONE because they felt threatened or feared for their lives... from an unarmed teen..

That's just the first 2 pages. Care to restate your claim that all the libs were objective and wanted an investigation?

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[kallend 2,147]

airdvr

***>Unfortunately we don't see the same meme change from the left.

That's fortunate. They've been calling for an investigation since day one. And it is happening, which is good.

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8/14
Probably the same reason white cops shoot unarmed black people.
I grew up in Ferguson, MO. The police are assholes, nothing less. Doesn't matter what color your skin is to them. They have equal disdain for all races. Fuck the Ferguson police. They'll get what they deserve.
Too many of our police only have the military approach in their toolbox.
And as long as we can have officers willing to kill EVERYONE because they felt threatened or feared for their lives... from an unarmed teen..

That's just the first 2 pages. Care to restate your claim that all the libs were objective and wanted an investigation?

Seems to me that anyone interested in finding out what went on would want an investigation. Trying to block an investigation smells of cover-up.

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[mirage62 0]

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Seems to me that anyone interested in finding out what went on would want an investigation. Trying to block an investigation smells of cover-up.

I don't get the idea that there is a cover up OR lack of investigation. The Feds are doing one....the State is doing one (I believe) and of course the local police.

It's interesting to me that many here hold to the idea that police get off shooting innocent people all the time. Many seem to have a basic distrust of the police. I've just not lived that life....I've been to jail....twice.... and deserved it both times. Yes I am a white man, but many here are white and really have dislike of the police.

I'd like to understand, seriously but my life experience does not allow me to feel that the majority or even remotely close to a majority of police are as bad as some here believe.

Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

[kallend 2,147]

mirage62

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Seems to me that anyone interested in finding out what went on would want an investigation. Trying to block an investigation smells of cover-up.

I don't get the idea that there is a cover up OR lack of investigation. The Feds are doing one....the State is doing one (I believe) and of course the local police.

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Yes, there is, but look at the outcry from some people (including in this forum) when the investigation was announced.

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[kallend 2,147]

cvfd1399

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This is nothing like the Trayvon shooting.

Trayvon wasn't shot by a cop.
Trayvon's case was taken to court and proven to be self defense during a physical attack.

So Zimmerman gets a trial and found out to be self defense, but without a trial you and kallend and amazon have shown that you are god damn positive the cop wasn't defending himself and is an out right murderer. Your right this is nothing like the travon case.....

Since you bring up Zimmerman, that paragon of virtue:

www.nydailynews.com/news/national/george-zimmerman-threatens-kill-driver-road-rage-incident-police-article-1.1937738

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[Amazon 7]

kallend

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This is nothing like the Trayvon shooting.

Trayvon wasn't shot by a cop.
Trayvon's case was taken to court and proven to be self defense during a physical attack.

So Zimmerman gets a trial and found out to be self defense, but without a trial you and kallend and amazon have shown that you are god damn positive the cop wasn't defending himself and is an out right murderer. Your right this is nothing like the travon case.....

Since you bring up Zimmerman, that paragon of virtue:

www.nydailynews.com/news/national/george-zimmerman-threatens-kill-driver-road-rage-incident-police-article-1.1937738

I seem to have missed that post ... and the dude.. yet again is wrong..

I WANT AN INVESTIGATION.... ANYTIME A COP SHOOTS A CITIZEN... BY AN IMPARTIAL WATCHDOG GROUP..

There.cvfd1399 perhaps can quit trying to make up shit.

I do not know if the officer in Ferguson is guilty or not and unlike the police in many cases.. I believe in our constitution and its provisions of INNOCENCE until proven guilty in a court of law......... but I am FUCKIN TIRED of police departments "investigating" themselves when an unarmed citizen is killed and making it all go away when the "investigation" is nothing more than a whitewash job to protect brother officers. a BAD cop is just that and should NEVER be trusted with the responsibility of life and death over citizens EVER AGAIN.

[normiss 893]

Do yourself a favor and look into that a little deeper.

It's not what the media is selling us.
Like that's a surprise.

[Anvilbrother 0]

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"THEM(EVERYONE) vs US"Unsure

as a civilian, this is a very big part of the problem to me.Mad

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/13/pennsylvania-police-barracks-shooting/15574705/

This is what happens if police are not using their survival awareness, always being prepared for anything while on duty. They get killed.

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Pennsylvania State Police are searching for a suspect or suspects after two troopers were ambushed outside a police barracks in Blooming Grove, Pa. during a late-night shift change, leaving one dead and another injured.

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