Gotta Love Texas

[turtlespeed 226]

Just got back . . . a couple of new purchases.

Walked in and picked out what we wanted, filled out a form for me and a form for her, and while we were sitting there, we were approved, and we walked out with a Glock 42, Glock 17 gen 4, and 600 rounds in just under an hour.

Paid just under $915.00

Not a bad deal, IMO

The checkout took less time than shopping.

I love me a good gun show!

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[Anvilbrother 0]

Texas is awesome, but why waste your money on a 380 glock....

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[BartsDaddy 7]

Why not? Unless you have one you want to give him.

I have many guns people say I wasted my money on. But when there broke out at the range I get a lot of people asking questions and wanting to shot them.

Handguns are only used to fight your way to a good rifle

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Anvilbrother

Texas is awesome, but why waste your money on a 380 glock....

It's what she asked for.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[Anvilbrother 0]

Perfect answer. I just hate to see the people fooled into thinking it's better than the 27 you obviously had other reasons to buy it. A guy I know got one, then when I pointed out the capacity, size, and ballistics vs the baby 40 he was sick at his stomach. He jumped on the new bandwagon before he did research.

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[RMK 3]

From purely a business/commercial aspect that is slick & efficient. However, the mentally/psychologically impaired can buy guns just as easily.

When the US wants to, you can easily make something cheap & affordable. Why not apply the same to healthcare; you spend 17% of GDP on healthcare whereas across Europe we spend about 10% of GDP and have better quality.

"Pain is the best instructor, but no one wants to attend his classes"

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Anvilbrother

Perfect answer. I just hate to see the people fooled into thinking it's better than the 27 you obviously had other reasons to buy it. A guy I know got one, then when I pointed out the capacity, size, and ballistics vs the baby 40 he was sick at his stomach. He jumped on the new bandwagon before he did research.

Naw. We pumped about 400 or so rounds looking for one that she liked. Springfield, glock, taurus (ugh), sig, we liked the "no external safety" and reliability of the glock. but she really liked how the 42 fired, she was able to control the recoil almost naturally, and the ballistics are not that different than the 9. Bottom line, she feels more comfortable with it.
Now . . . we go to the range and see if that still holds true.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[turtlespeed 226]

RMK

From purely a business/commercial aspect that is slick & efficient. However, the mentally/psychologically impaired can buy guns just as easily.

When the US wants to, you can easily make something cheap & affordable. Why not apply the same to healthcare; you spend 17% of GDP on healthcare whereas across Europe we spend about 10% of GDP and have better quality.

Gun Thread

Not Healthcare thread.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[rhaig 0]

RMK

From purely a business/commercial aspect that is slick & efficient. However, the mentally/psychologically impaired can buy guns just as easily.

Assuming they haven't been declared impaired by a doctor or otherwise gotten themselves on the bad side of the instant check system, yes.

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Rob

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RMK

However, the mentally/psychologically impaired can buy guns just as easily.

I don't know about Texas, but here in Florida all sales at a Gun Show go through an FFL with a background check. What's this crap about "Gun Show Loopholes?"

I need to get to one soon. I've finally talked the wife into getting here concealed carry permit.

"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
Life, the Universe, and Everything

[billvon 3,120]

>What's this crap about "Gun Show Loopholes?"

That you can go to a gun show, meet up with a private seller and buy a gun with no background check. (The term itself is a misnomer - it should be the "private sale" loophole, not the gun show loophole.)

[rhaig 0]

and in truth, the term loophole is incorrect too. The federal background check law covers sales from a licensed firearms dealer. Meeting a private seller to buy something from them is not covered by that law.

The term "loophole" generally describes a technicality used to get around a law.

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Rob

[kallend 2,150]

jgoose71

***However, the mentally/psychologically impaired can buy guns just as easily.

I don't know about Texas, but here in Florida all sales at a Gun Show go through an FFL with a background check. What's this crap about "Gun Show Loopholes?"



Only 17 states require a background check. Hence a felon or other disqualified person can go to a gun show in any one of 33 states and buy a gun from an unlicensed seller with no check whatsoever. Typically well over 25% of sellers at shows in unregulated states are unlicensed. According to ATF gun shows rank second to corrupt dealers as a source for illegally trafficked firearms.

Whether you call it a loophole or not is irrelevant - it is clearly a trivially easy way for disqualified people to get hold of guns that they should not have.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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rhaig

and in truth, the term loophole is incorrect too. The federal background check law covers sales from a licensed firearms dealer. Meeting a private seller to buy something from them is not covered by that law.

The term "loophole" generally describes a technicality used to get around a law.

Well, I'm pretty sure the loophole here in Florida is closed.

"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
Life, the Universe, and Everything

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kallend

******However, the mentally/psychologically impaired can buy guns just as easily.

I don't know about Texas, but here in Florida all sales at a Gun Show go through an FFL with a background check. What's this crap about "Gun Show Loopholes?"



Only 17 states require a background check. Hence a felon or other disqualified person can go to a gun show in any one of 33 states and buy a gun from an unlicensed seller with no check whatsoever. Typically well over 25% of sellers at shows in unregulated states are unlicensed. According to ATF gun shows rank second to corrupt dealers as a source for illegally trafficked firearms.

Whether you call it a loophole or not is irrelevant - it is clearly a trivially easy way for disqualified people to get hold of guns that they should not have.

While checking reciprocity with a CCW issued by Washington... the thing that surprised me was the amount of states that do not require a nutbaggery check... as part of the process.

This is what WA requires.
(2)(a) The issuing authority shall conduct a check through the national instant criminal background check system, the Washington state patrol electronic database, the department of social and health services electronic database, and with other agencies or resources as appropriate, to determine whether the applicant is ineligible under RCW 9.41.040 or 9.41.045 to possess a firearm, or is prohibited from possessing a firearm under federal law, and therefore ineligible for a concealed pistol license.

Then there are the "others" according to this..
The Washington State Attorney General's website provides a list of those states that have reciprocity with Washington for concealed pistol licenses.
Concealed Weapon Reciprocity

In order for Washington to recognize other states’ concealed weapons permits, Washington state's reciprocity law (RCW 9.41.073) dictates that the other state must:
Recognize Washington concealed pistol licenses;
Not issue concealed pistol licenses to persons under age 21; AND
Require a mandatory fingerprint-based background check for criminal and mental health history


This report is updated as reciprocity changes. The last update was 5/12/14.

State Reciprocity Reason for Status
Alabama No No mandatory fingerprint-based criminal background check. No mandatory mental health background check. Allows under 21-yrs-old to have license.

Alaska No No CPL requirement to carry concealed. No mandatory mental health background check.

Arizona No No mandatory mental health background check.

Arkansas Yes Meets WA requirements.

California No Does not recognize out of state permits.

Colorado No No mandatory mental health background check.

Connecticut No Does not recognize out of state permits.

Delaware No Does not have sufficient mental health background check. WA does not have training required by Delaware.

District of Columbia No Does not permit either its own residents or any non-resident to carry a concealed weapon, therefore no reciprocity possible.

Florida No Allows under 21-yrs-old honorably discharged veterans to have license.

Georgia No No mandatory mental health background check.

Hawaii No Does not recognize out of state permits.

Idaho Yes Meets WA requirements. *Idaho Enhanced Permit only.*

Illinois No Does not permit either its own residents or any non-resident to carry a concealed weapon, therefore no reciprocity possible.

Indiana No No mandatory fingerprint-based criminal background check. No mandatory mental health background check. Allows under 21-yrs-old to have license.

Iowa No No mandatory fingerprint-based criminal background check. Allows under 21-yrs-old for professional permits.

Kansas Yes Meets WA requirements.
Kentucky No No mandatory fingerprint-based criminal background check. No mandatory mental health background check.

Louisiana Yes Meets WA requirements.

Maine No No mandatory fingerprint-based criminal background check. Mandatory mental health background check does not appear to meet WA requirement. Allows under 21-yrs-old to have license.

Maryland No Does not recognize out of state permits.

Massachusetts No Does not recognize out of state permits.

Michigan Yes Meets WA requirements. *MI does not recognize non-resident concealed pistol licenses issues by WA.*

Minnesota No WA does not have training required by MN.

Mississippi Yes Meets WA requirements.

Missouri Yes Meets WA requirements.

Montana No Mandatory mental health background check does not appear to meet WA requirement. Allows under 21-yrs-old to have license.

Nebraska No No mandatory fingerprint-based criminal background check. No mandatory mental health background check. WA does not meet NE training requirement.

Nevada No No mandatory mental health background check.

New Hampshire No No mandatory fingerprint-based criminal background check. No mandatory mental health background check. Allows under 21-yrs-old to have license.

New Jersey No Does not recognize out of state permits.

New Mexico No No mandatory mental health background check. Will not enter into formal agreement with other states.

New York No Does not recognize out of state permits.

North Carolina Yes Meets WA requirements.

North Dakota Yes Meets WA requirements. *Class 1 ND permits only.*

Ohio Yes Meets WA requirements.

Oklahoma Yes Meets WA requirements.

Oregon No Does not recognize out of state permits.

Pennsylvania No No mandatory fingerprint-based criminal background check. Mandatory mental health background check does not appear to meet WA requirement.

Rhode Island No Does not recognize out of state permits.

South Carolina No WA does not meet SC training requirement.

South Dakota No Allows under 21-yrs-old to have license. No mandatory fingerprint-based criminal background check.

Tennessee Yes Meets WA requirements.

Texas No Allows under 21-yrs-old honorably discharged veterans to have license.

Utah Yes Meets WA requirements.

Vermont No Does not have a concealed weapons law. Does not issue permits. Therefore no reciprocity possible.

Virginia No No mandatory fingerprint-based criminal background check. No mandatory mental health background check.

West Virginia No No mandatory fingerprint-based criminal background check. Allows under 21-yrs-old to have license if condition of employment.

Wisconsin No No mandatory fingerprint-based criminal background check.

Wyoming No No mandatory mental health background check.





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[turtlespeed 226]

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Texas No Allows under 21-yrs-old honorably discharged veterans to have license.

So Washington believes a person can use a firearm to defend and possibly die for his country, but is not good enough to be licensed to own one.

Yeeeeaaaaaahhhhhh - um . . . OK.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[Amazon 7]

turtlespeed

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Texas No Allows under 21-yrs-old honorably discharged veterans to have license.

So Washington believes a person can use a firearm to defend and possibly die for his country, but is not good enough to be licensed to own one.

Yeeeeaaaaaahhhhhh - um . . . OK.

That holds true in most of the country.... same for getting shitfaced legally too.. ain't that funny how that works.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

turtlespeed

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Texas No Allows under 21-yrs-old honorably discharged veterans to have license.

So Washington believes a person can use a firearm to defend and possibly die for his country, but is not good enough to be licensed to own one.

Yeeeeaaaaaahhhhhh - um . . . OK.

And in Texas....he would be allowed. But, he can't be trusted to sit in a bar and have a beer.

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SkyDekker

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Texas No Allows under 21-yrs-old honorably discharged veterans to have license.

So Washington believes a person can use a firearm to defend and possibly die for his country, but is not good enough to be licensed to own one.

Yeeeeaaaaaahhhhhh - um . . . OK.

And in Texas....he would be allowed. But, he can't be trusted to sit in a bar and have a beer.

Yup... we can thank our feds for that one. Thirty years ago congress passed the national minimum drinking age act punishing every state that didn't raise it's minimum drinking age by reducing the federal highway funding apportionment.

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Rob

[Amazon 7]

SkyDekker

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Texas No Allows under 21-yrs-old honorably discharged veterans to have license.

So Washington believes a person can use a firearm to defend and possibly die for his country, but is not good enough to be licensed to own one.

Yeeeeaaaaaahhhhhh - um . . . OK.

And in Texas....he would be allowed. But, he can't be trusted to sit in a bar and have a beer.

Hey its good for a HUGE knee jerk... last I heard you can own them... you just can't carry concealed in most of the country .
I am betting the Texican legislators know the young men they raise up quite well. You never know when someone might need killin.

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rhaig

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Texas No Allows under 21-yrs-old honorably discharged veterans to have license.

So Washington believes a person can use a firearm to defend and possibly die for his country, but is not good enough to be licensed to own one.

Yeeeeaaaaaahhhhhh - um . . . OK.

And in Texas....he would be allowed. But, he can't be trusted to sit in a bar and have a beer.

Yup... we can thank our feds for that one. Thirty years ago congress passed the national minimum drinking age act punishing every state that didn't raise it's minimum drinking age by reducing the federal highway funding apportionment.

Hmmm and I wonder what that is... do you have a clue of why that might be???

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Amazon

Hmmm and I wonder what that is... do you have a clue of why that might be???

That's called bribery. A sort of end-run around the 10th amendment in this case.

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Rob

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rhaig

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Hmmm and I wonder what that is... do you have a clue of why that might be???

That's called bribery. A sort of end-run around the 10th amendment in this case.


Sorry but you can blame it on that huge RINO ..... facts do really matter.


President Ronald Reagan signed into effect the National Minimum Drinking Age Act (NMDAA) in 1984.

http://www.legalflip.com/Article.aspx?id=20&pageid=91

[kallend 2,150]

Amazon

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Hmmm and I wonder what that is... do you have a clue of why that might be???

That's called bribery. A sort of end-run around the 10th amendment in this case.


Sorry but you can blame it on that huge RINO ..... facts do really matter.


President Ronald Reagan signed into effect the National Minimum Drinking Age Act (NMDAA) in 1984.

http://www.legalflip.com/Article.aspx?id=20&pageid=91

And the GOP is up in arms right now about Obama's supposed "amnesty", yet the only president to have actually signed a bill giving amnesty is St. Ronald.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rhaig 0]

Amazon

******

Hmmm and I wonder what that is... do you have a clue of why that might be???

That's called bribery. A sort of end-run around the 10th amendment in this case.


Sorry but you can blame it on that huge RINO ..... facts do really matter.


President Ronald Reagan signed into effect the National Minimum Drinking Age Act (NMDAA) in 1984.

http://www.legalflip.com/Article.aspx?id=20&pageid=91

no shit.

You think you're telling me something I didn't know?

It's still bribery and an end run around the 10th. You and John seem to think that anything the Democrats do is good, and anything the Republicans do is bad. Blind party loyalty and apologies.

They're politicians. The lot of them.

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Rob