Hmmmmm. Interesting

[Amazon 7]

quade

***Are the numbers not true?

LINK YOUR SOURCE SO WE CAN CHECK IT OUT!















(geebus.)

AS Lois Lerner pointed out concerning the nutbag wing of the party they are trying really hard to destroy themselves. With so few outlets for their rage, hate and vitriol, there is no wonder FAUX gets the majority of them, while other news sources actually have to compete for all the normal people in the world.

[rushmc 23]

jakee

******Show me where any neutral journalist organization has ever praised Breitbart

You are desperate

http://www.enumclaw.com/editorial-opinion/2012-most-trustworthy-news-sources/

You really don't see it, do you?

You honestly think that associating Breitbart with Drudge, WND and TheBlaze makes it look like a neutral, respectable resource. It's quite fascinating.

Look at your statment in a mirror. It that really any different?

And no, I do not think they are neutral
I think they offset the main stream biases however

I get my news from many sources
Breitbart is just one
Drudge puts news together from many sights
He prints very little of his own
WND and the Blaze? I pay little attention to them
I skim them and then see if there is more out there on stroies I find interesting

But if you or anyone thinks the alphabet stations are unbiased I got some bridges I want to sell you

But did you notice that quade et all did NOT refute the data/info? Why? Causet hey cant
Fox is kicking ass for one reason
It is LESS biased than the others

Just consider my link regarding Wolfy boy

He was creaming his pants when Bush's numbers were so low
Obama's numbers as low? Not a peep

So dont let your assumptions knock you off that high horse your are on
Falls like that hurt

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

Amazon

******Are the numbers not true?

LINK YOUR SOURCE SO WE CAN CHECK IT OUT!















(geebus.)

AS Lois Lerner pointed out concerning the nutbag wing of the party they are trying really hard to destroy themselves. With so few outlets for their rage, hate and vitriol, there is no wonder FAUX gets the majority of them, while other news sources actually have to compete for all the normal people in the world.

Prediction
Leaner will end up in prison
And that is where she should be

BTW
Where did you get that news?
The lame streamers did very little reporting on that discovered email

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[winsor 236]

rushmc

***The only real-life significance is whether it is, or is not, a barometer for how people will vote on Election Day. Otherwise, it's just "Yay, team!"

thats true
The only numbers that count are those on election day

"It does not matter who votes. It matters who counts the votes."

Josef Stalin

[rushmc 23]

winsor

******The only real-life significance is whether it is, or is not, a barometer for how people will vote on Election Day. Otherwise, it's just "Yay, team!"

thats true
The only numbers that count are those on election day

"It does not matter who votes. It matters who counts the votes."

Josef Stalin

Scarry isnt it

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Amazon 7]

rushmc

*********Are the numbers not true?

LINK YOUR SOURCE SO WE CAN CHECK IT OUT!















(geebus.)

AS Lois Lerner pointed out concerning the nutbag wing of the party they are trying really hard to destroy themselves. With so few outlets for their rage, hate and vitriol, there is no wonder FAUX gets the majority of them, while other news sources actually have to compete for all the normal people in the world.

Prediction
Leaner will end up in prison
And that is where she should be

BTW
Where did you get that news?
The lame streamers did very little reporting on that discovered email

Would you be surprised to find out several of those at the vortex of the scandal were actually in the RINO wing as you would call them?? The nutbag wing is out to get her for not being on the Astroturf bandwagon who pretend to be the Tea Bag Party

[rushmc 23]

Amazon

************Are the numbers not true?

LINK YOUR SOURCE SO WE CAN CHECK IT OUT!















(geebus.)

AS Lois Lerner pointed out concerning the nutbag wing of the party they are trying really hard to destroy themselves. With so few outlets for their rage, hate and vitriol, there is no wonder FAUX gets the majority of them, while other news sources actually have to compete for all the normal people in the world.

Prediction
Leaner will end up in prison
And that is where she should be

BTW
Where did you get that news?
The lame streamers did very little reporting on that discovered email

Would you be surprised to find out several of those at the vortex of the scandal were actually in the RINO wing as you would call them?? The nutbag wing is out to get her for not being on the Astroturf bandwagon who pretend to be the Tea Bag Party

I dont give a damn who they are or who they target
Having the IRS as a weapon should scare the hell out of everyone including Democrats
Using the IRS this way was a dream of Nixon's
But you are so blind politically you dont care
This I know

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Amazon 7]

rushmc

***************Are the numbers not true?

LINK YOUR SOURCE SO WE CAN CHECK IT OUT!















(geebus.)

AS Lois Lerner pointed out concerning the nutbag wing of the party they are trying really hard to destroy themselves. With so few outlets for their rage, hate and vitriol, there is no wonder FAUX gets the majority of them, while other news sources actually have to compete for all the normal people in the world.

Prediction
Leaner will end up in prison
And that is where she should be

BTW
Where did you get that news?
The lame streamers did very little reporting on that discovered email

Would you be surprised to find out several of those at the vortex of the scandal were actually in the RINO wing as you would call them?? The nutbag wing is out to get her for not being on the Astroturf bandwagon who pretend to be the Tea Bag Party

I dont give a damn who they are or who they target
Having the IRS as a weapon should scare the hell out of everyone including Democrats
Using the IRS this way was a dream of Nixon's
But you are so blind politically you dont care
This I know

YO... pot dude.... http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/24/politics/irs-targeting/index.html

The point the fringers are missing is all of them were targeted because they were breaking the fucking law.... you want to be tax exempt????? cool.. meet the criteria set forth in the law.. I know that is tough for some people who believe the laws of this country need not apply to them.. but unfortunately... they are there and breaking them gets people incarcerated in Federal Pound them in the Ass facilities.... not that some would not enjoy that sort of thing... as we have seen with all the conservative family values fails.

[jakee 1,596]

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Look at your statment in a mirror. It that really any different?

Simply put, yes.

Given that I've never (for example) linked to DemocraticUnderground to prove that DailyKos is a balanced news website then it is quite different.

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And no, I do not think they are neutral

Then you realise that you haven't yet provided a defence for your statement that it is a 'well respected source'.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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jakee

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Look at your statment in a mirror. It that really any different?

Simply put, yes.

Given that I've never (for example) linked to DemocraticUnderground to prove that DailyKos is a balanced news website then it is quite different.

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And no, I do not think they are neutral

Then you realise that you haven't yet provided a defence for your statement that it is a 'well respected source'.

CBS is NOT respected by anyone who pays attention because they have been caught multiple times in BIG reporting lies! Not mistakes
All news groups make errors

And your reference question can be used either way
Can you show where they are NOT respected?

But, so much for the twisting
Fox is more watched hands down
There is a reason for this

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Amazon 7]

rushmc

***

Quote

Look at your statment in a mirror. It that really any different?

Simply put, yes.

Given that I've never (for example) linked to DemocraticUnderground to prove that DailyKos is a balanced news website then it is quite different.

Quote

And no, I do not think they are neutral

Then you realise that you haven't yet provided a defence for your statement that it is a 'well respected source'.

CBS is NOT respected by anyone who pays attention because they have been caught multiple times in BIG reporting lies! Not mistakes
All news groups make errors

And your reference question can be used either way
Can you show where they are NOT respected?

But, so much for the twisting
Fox is more watched hands down
There is a reason for this

So many crazies..... so few crazies stations.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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But, so much for the twisting
Fox is more watched hands down
There is a reason for this

More and more people like to be told what they already agree with?

The population is getting stupider?

[rushmc 23]

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YO... pot dude.... http://www.cnn.com/...targeting/index.html

The point the fringers are missing is all of them were targeted because they were breaking the fucking law

Ya
Breaking the law just like the liberal groups that do the same thing
Ya, got it

BTW
That article you linked had been debunked so many ways it is not worth the electrons to write it up

But that does not matter to you
Cause you like to support the lies that keep you happy

Well, if you cared to follow that story you would have known this

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

SkyDekker

The population is getting stupider?

this would be the reason we have the president we have today
you know, those who now wish they had voted for Romney.....

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,120]

>Fox is more watched hands down
>There is a reason for this

Yep. They tell people exactly what they want to hear. (Which is why FOX viewers are consistently the least informed people in the US.) But as long as it agrees with your preconceptions - you'll watch it.

[kelpdiver 2]

rushmc

http://www.enumclaw.com/editorial-opinion/2012-most-trustworthy-news-sources/

I find it funny how no one picked up on the fact that this cite openly calls itself an editorial, which is what it is. Yet you're trying to spin it as straight up factual.

As for the original story:
"Compared to the same month last year, Fox News was the only cable news network up in primetime: up +8% in total viewers and up +2% in A25-54 viewers. For total day, the network was down -3% in total viewers and -5% in the demo."

And to put real numbers to it, Fox News have primetime viewership of 1.8M, which is just over 0.5% of the nation. 60 Minutes, a much hated CBS show for Fox Viewers, pulled in 7.7 Million, and was the 4th rated show last week.

[jakee 1,596]

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CBS

When were we taling about CBS?

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is NOT respected by anyone who pays attention

Can you show me they're not respected?

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Can you show where they are NOT respected?

You said you could show that they were respected, even by liberal news outlets. Can you?

Quote

But, so much for the twisting

Somehow I doubt it.

Quote

Fox is more watched hands down
There is a reason for this

When MSNBC and CNN have good viewing numbers it's apparently because of all the sheeple who've been brainwashed by the lamestream media.

What's Fox's reason?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[mirage62 0]

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(Which is why FOX viewers are consistently the least informed people in the US.)

Bill could you prove this or back it up with a reliable source - not left leaning?

I'd like to challenge your far right and far left folks here to go to realclearpolitics.com and for three months read articles from the other side. No cheating. You read ONE from your normal position and then ONE from the other position. You might learn something.

Just a thought.

Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

[Amazon 7]

mirage62

Quote

(Which is why FOX viewers are consistently the least informed people in the US.)

Bill could you prove this or back it up with a reliable source - not left leaning?

I'd like to challenge your far right and far left folks here to go to realclearpolitics.com and for three months read articles from the other side. No cheating. You read ONE from your normal position and then ONE from the other position. You might learn something.

Just a thought.

Wiki

The site was founded in 2000 by conservatives,[5] former options trader John McIntyre and former advertising agency account executive Tom Bevan. [5][6][7] Forbes Media LLC bought a 51% equity interest in the site in 2007.[8] RCP has expanded to include a number of sister sites.

Patrick Stack of Time magazine has described the site's commentary as conservative-leaning.[12] The site has been described as being run by conservatives.[13]

In an interview with the conservative magazine Human Events, McIntyre described the philosophy behind the Web site as based on "freedom" and "common-sense values". Said Bevan, "We think debate on the issues is a very important thing. We post a variety of opinions". He further stated, "we have a frustration all conservatives have", which is "the bias in media against conservatives, religious conservatives, [and] Christian conservatives".[5]

[quade 4]

mirage62

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(Which is why FOX viewers are consistently the least informed people in the US.)

Bill could you prove this or back it up with a reliable source - not left leaning?

Reported in FORBES (damn liberal rag!), a poll by Farleigh Dickinson University.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2011/11/21/fox-news-viewers-uninformed-npr-listeners-not-poll-suggests/

The actual poll, results, and methodology.
http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2011/knowless/

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[billvon 3,120]

>Bill could you prove this or back it up with a reliable source - not left leaning?

Poll from Fairleigh Dickinson University, May 2012 - "The largest effect is that of Fox News: all else being equal, someone who watched only Fox News would be expected to answer just 1.04 domestic questions correctly — a figure which is significantly worse than if they had reported watching no media at all."

Kaiser Foundation poll, 2011, poll on Obamacare - “higher shares of those who report CNN (35 percent) or MSNBC (39 percent) as their primary news source [got] 7 or more right, compared to those that report mainly watching Fox News (25 percent).”

Ohio State University, 2010, poll on issues surrounding the "Ground Zero Mosque" - "People who use Fox News believe more of the rumors we asked about and they believe them more strongly than those who do not."

Program on International Policy Attitudes, 2010, poll on election issues - "There were however a number of cases where greater exposure to a news source increased misinformation on a specific issue. Those who watched Fox News almost daily were significantly more likely than those who never watched it to believe that:" (9 specific pieces of misinformation were listed)

Program on International Policy Attitudes, 2003, poll on Iraq war issues - "The extent of Americans’ misperceptions vary significantly depending on their source of news. Those who receive most of their news from Fox News are more likely than average to have misperceptions."

Let me know if you'd like links.

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billvon

Cool; no more complaining about "there's no source!"

This should go in "the rules" then

--
Rob

[quade 4]

rhaig

***Cool; no more complaining about "there's no source!"

This should go in "the rules" then

Nope. Sourcing an argument is basic.

If a person can't or is unwilling to back up their shit, then their argument probably is shit as well.

It's why god invented footnotes.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[Boomerdog 0]

Follow the $$$!
Advertising $$$ are based upon Nielsens and other important data. Wanna know who's got the best ratings? See where the advertising dollars are being spent and in what time slots. That's gonna tell everyone here what the real ratings are compared to any data from any source that others are going to question.

FOLLOW THE MONEY!

[wmw999 2,589]

I heard a mention of the President's numbers today on PBS. They said low 40's, so it's pretty recent I guess.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)