sfzombie13 324 #1 July 27, 2014 we finally got a candidate that i can put my support behind, ed rabel for house of representatives. but when he tried to debate his two opponents, he was not allowed. http://www.wvgazette.com/article/20140724/GZ01/140729517/1101 and then, we finally start to find out that mountaintop removal is not only killing the animals and destroying the environment, but also kiling us, but the government pulls the funding from the research.http://www.wvgazette.com/article/20140726/GZ01/140729409/1419 \what do i have to do in wv to get the word out? this peaceful protest shit is getting stifled at every turn. it is frustrating for me, and i have been an activist for less that a year, i can only imagine the frustration of those who have been doing this for 30 years! mother jones had the right idea. i often say that i oppose violence, unless it is used for meeting like violence, as it was back in the days when the mine owners were outright killing the orgainzers. i need to figure out a peaceful way to help get the word out, and get this shit fixed. any ideas?_________________________________________ Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfzombie13 324 #2 July 29, 2014 i would have thought that someone would have something to say about this. frankly, i am a little disappointed._________________________________________ Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bertt 0 #3 July 29, 2014 I've got something to say about it, but you ain't gonna to like it. You can vote and protest all you want to, but the way to get laws changed is to take a congressman to lunch. Unless you can afford to do that, you're stuck.You don't have to outrun the bear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CygnusX-1 43 #4 July 30, 2014 First of all, if it doesn't happen in NY, CA, TX, or FL nobody really cares. Little states like WV don't mean anything on a national scale. Secondly, I question the science of mountain top removal. You see I took a geology course in high school. In that class they taught me that mountains have been rising and falling for millions of years (or about 6,000 years depending on your belief of the origin of the universe). Tectonic plates collide and push up mountains. Rain, wind, and the sun combine to erode them down. I'm not sure that this mountain top removal is actually man made. It might me a natural occurrence. The miners might be there reaping the benefits from natural erosion. The first thing that needs to happen is we probably need a 5 to 10 year study to determine if the erosion is caused by man made by nature. This should include models being developed to "accurately" predict which mountains are being eroded and the affect of the erosion. Other mountains in the area need to be studied to see if the model can predict whether it will erode like the mined ones or not. If the models cannot predict which mountain top will be eroded (removed) and at what rate, then the whole idea of mountain top removal is junk science and should be abandoned. After this decade long study is complete and it is determined beyond a reasonable doubt that mountain top removal is man made, then we need to start a study on the consequences of that removal. This study should probably take no less than 20 years to complete. We need to be 100% certain of the long term effects of mountain top removal before we do anything about the practice. You cannot do that overnight. Now while you complete these two studies, we should not restrict the operations of the miners because they are supplying good American jobs to your fellow countrymen. And besides there are more important problems to conquer then this. Things like tax breaks which are expiring and oh, hey look -> a terrorist! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites