Dinesh D'Souza - America

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This is an outstanding movie. Highly recommend it to both sides of the aisle.

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I guess I could say the same about Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11."

I won't, because that would be kind of stupid, but there ya go.

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I guess I could say the same about Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11."

I won't, because that would be kind of stupid, but there ya go.

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I guess I could say the same about Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11."

I'm not surprised with your comment.
You should see it.
You'll learn something.

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StreetScooby

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I guess I could say the same about Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11."

I'm not surprised with your comment.
You should see it.
You'll learn something.

You should probably see, "Fahrenheit 9/11."

As for me seeing this; yes, I probably will, as soon as it's on Netflix.

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I guess I could say the same about Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11."

I won't, because that would be kind of stupid, but there ya go.

One movie talks about how great America is and the good it has done the world, the other one talks about how much America sucks.

Which ever movie you gravitate to kind of says something about your views.

I watched "Fahrenheit 9/11" and the movie was so riddled with bull shit that I was left with a feeling in the pit of my stomache of empty despair because of the knowlege that I will never be able to get that time back.

"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
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jgoose71

I watched "Fahrenheit 9/11" and the movie was so riddled with bull shit that I was left with a feeling in the pit of my stomache of empty despair because of the knowlege that I will never be able to get that time back.

And yet here you are on DZ.com in SC rather than curing cancer.

Here's a concept for you to wrap your head around; the vast majority of your or anybody's time is a complete waste.

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And yet here you are on DZ.com in SC rather than curing cancer.

Here's a concept for you to wrap your head around; the vast majority of your or anybody's time is a complete waste.

Very true. However, when possible, I try to waste time in ways that I find enjoyable.

Like watching "Dinesh D'Souza - America" or "Michael Moore hates America"

Life is to short to watch Michael Moore movies. Unfortunately I watched one to find this out...

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You should probably see, "Fahrenheit 9/11."

Ok, I'll track this down and watch it.

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Life is to short to watch Michael Moore movies. Unfortunately I watched one to find this out...

Ok, I'll consider myself forewarned. Kind of expected this any way, but for this one, I'm going to go in with an open mind.

It's striking to me how progressives rely on false narratives to make their points. I should probably spend some time looking over a few of Saul Alinsky's writings. I'm sure I can come up with 15 minutes, somewhere...

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I plan to see it first chance.

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StreetScooby

This is an outstanding movie. Highly recommend it to both sides of the aisle.

Are you new? You can't put anything pro-u.s. on here.

Please don't dent the planet.

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airdvr

***This is an outstanding movie. Highly recommend it to both sides of the aisle.

Are you new? You can't put anything pro-u.s. on here.

Ah yes a True American Conservative... good old DINESH from Bombay the felon.

from Wiki



In January 2014, D'Souza was indicted on charges of making illegal political contributions to a 2012 United States Senate campaign.[12] On May 20, 2014, D'Souza pleaded guilty in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York to a charge of using "straw donors" to make illegal political campaign donations. The charge carries a sentence of 10 to 16 months according to the plea agreement reached between D'Souza and federal prosecutors.[13]

OH LOOK ELECTION FRAUD.. see it does exist.

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airdvr

***This is an outstanding movie. Highly recommend it to both sides of the aisle.

Are you new? You can't put anything pro-u.s. on here.

Or, if you do post how great America is, then you do sort of have to take some responsiblity when people from all over the world will risk thief lives trying to get in.

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Amazon

******This is an outstanding movie. Highly recommend it to both sides of the aisle.

Are you new? You can't put anything pro-u.s. on here.

Ah yes a True American Conservative... good old DINESH from Bombay the felon.

from Wiki



In January 2014, D'Souza was indicted on charges of making illegal political contributions to a 2012 United States Senate campaign.[12] On May 20, 2014, D'Souza pleaded guilty in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York to a charge of using "straw donors" to make illegal political campaign donations. The charge carries a sentence of 10 to 16 months according to the plea agreement reached between D'Souza and federal prosecutors.[13]

OH LOOK ELECTION FRAUD.. see it does exist.

Apparently election law is not really taken too seriously on the fringe right.

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StreetScooby

This is an outstanding movie. Highly recommend it to both sides of the aisle.

After his Obama "documentary" I'm a bit of a skeptic. He's just the opposite side of Michael Moore, Frontline shows documentaries.

I read a few of the reviews, here are a few parts.


"First of all, shortly after setting out to disprove the notion that America “stole the labor of African Americans”—his words, not mine—D’Souza admits that the “enslavement of African Americans was theft—theft of life and labor.” I’m no logician, but I’m pretty sure that calling something true is an ineffective way of proving that it’s false.

No matter, though. D’Souza just barrels ahead. He’s no longer trying to say that slavery wasn’t theft. Now he’s just saying that it wasn’t as bad as liberals seem to think.

He notes, for example, that even though Frederick Douglass was opposed to slavery, he “didn’t want to leave America"—as if working to right a wrong from within the system is somehow tantamount to admitting that the wrong isn’t so grievous after all.

He explains that “white indentured servants were brought to this country by force,” too—as if the difference between temporary servitude and lifelong slavery based on skin color was merely a difference of degree.

He tells the story of black slave owner William Ellison, “one of the most feared plantation owners in the South”—as if the existence of black slave owners is somehow evidence that the antebellum South wasn’t seriously messed up instead of evidence of, you know, the exact opposite.

He recounts the tale of Madame C.J. Walker, a freed slave who “started selling her own hair-care products door to door” and became “the first self-made female millionaire in America”—as if all ex-slaves would have succeeded like Walker with enough “hard work.”
He even reminds us that “the Egyptians had slaves, the Chinese had slaves, the Africans had slaves, and the American Indians had slaves long before Columbus”—as if the Everybody-Else-Was-Doing-It defense makes American slavery OK."

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jclalor

***This is an outstanding movie. Highly recommend it to both sides of the aisle.

After his Obama "documentary" I'm a bit of a skeptic. He's just the opposite side of Michael Moore....

Well, he is brown and skinny...

jclalor

I read a few of the reviews, here are a few parts.


"First of all, shortly after setting out to disprove the notion that America “stole the labor of African Americans”—his words, not mine—D’Souza admits that the “enslavement of African Americans was theft—theft of life and labor.” I’m no logician, but I’m pretty sure that calling something true is an ineffective way of proving that it’s false.

No matter, though. D’Souza just barrels ahead. He’s no longer trying to say that slavery wasn’t theft. Now he’s just saying that it wasn’t as bad as liberals seem to think.

He notes, for example, that even though Frederick Douglass was opposed to slavery, he “didn’t want to leave America"—as if working to right a wrong from within the system is somehow tantamount to admitting that the wrong isn’t so grievous after all.

He explains that “white indentured servants were brought to this country by force,” too—as if the difference between temporary servitude and lifelong slavery based on skin color was merely a difference of degree.

He tells the story of black slave owner William Ellison, “one of the most feared plantation owners in the South”—as if the existence of black slave owners is somehow evidence that the antebellum South wasn’t seriously messed up instead of evidence of, you know, the exact opposite.

He recounts the tale of Madame C.J. Walker, a freed slave who “started selling her own hair-care products door to door” and became “the first self-made female millionaire in America”—as if all ex-slaves would have succeeded like Walker with enough “hard work.”
He even reminds us that “the Egyptians had slaves, the Chinese had slaves, the Africans had slaves, and the American Indians had slaves long before Columbus”—as if the Everybody-Else-Was-Doing-It defense makes American slavery OK."

Ya, as if that was the point of the film...

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D'Souza also points out that America is the only country to have had a civil war over slavery, and we ended it after the loss of 500,000 lives. This was done so blacks could enjoy the fruits of their labor.

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StreetScooby

D'Souza also points out that America is the only country to have had a civil war over slavery, and we ended it after the loss of 500,000 lives.

And that's better than abolishing slavery without needing to go to war, is it?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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StreetScooby

D'Souza also points out that America is the only country to have had a civil war over slavery, and we ended it after the loss of 500,000 lives. This was done so blacks could enjoy the fruits of their labor.

For such a supposedly learned conservative scholar.... Dinesh really should keep up with the latest research.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/03/science/civil-war-toll-up-by-20-percent-in-new-estimate.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

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StreetScooby

D'Souza also points out that America is the only country to have had a civil war over slavery, and we ended it after the loss of 500,000 lives. This was done so blacks could enjoy the fruits of their labor.

To somehow claim fighting a civil war over it as proof of how great a country the US is ridiculous. Slavery is THE original sin of the US built right into the Constitution by the framers of it. Our "Founding Fathers" were in large part complete, hypocritical assholes for even talking about all men being created equal while at the same time owning slaves.

D'Souza is, in my opinion, simply a revisionist tool.

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Propaganda I agree with might be more relaxing to listen to, but it's still propaganda.

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