billvon 3,132 #26 July 16, 2014 >Liberals only need to be mocked when you think you know everything and the >use that knowledge to tell everyone else how they should live their lives. Guess I'm not a liberal, then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #27 July 16, 2014 RonD1120I am so sick and tired of hearing about racism. The BHO administration keeps it boiling. Divide and conquer. Screw it! Let's just embrace the concept of racism because it won't go away. Just remember nigger ain't race specific. It means somebody owns you. I'm Christ's nigger. Then this is the song for you, I've never seen a better match. http://youtu.be/Kppx4bzfAaE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #28 July 16, 2014 jclalor***I am so sick and tired of hearing about racism. The BHO administration keeps it boiling. Divide and conquer. Screw it! Let's just embrace the concept of racism because it won't go away. Just remember nigger ain't race specific. It means somebody owns you. I'm Christ's nigger. Then this is the song for you, I've never seen a better match. http://youtu.be/Kppx4bzfAaE It fits and the ad at the beginning was as good as the video itself. Now I see the ads vary. The first one I saw was Milton Friedman espousing the benefits of capitalism over socialism.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funjumper101 15 #29 July 16, 2014 RonD1120Liberals tend live in their minds. Their world is theoretical. When challenged they are driven further into their fantasy consciousness. Fantasy meaning that which takes place in the mind. They tend to think then feel as opposed to feeling then thinking. Common sense is difficult to apply because for them common sense is learned from study. It is not learned from experience. I understand your point and your frustration. You have got to be shitting me!!! This from someone who professes fealty to an imaginary man in the sky, and uses a book of 2000 year old fables that has been rewritten over and over again, as their main source of information on how to live life? That would be some funny shit, if it wasn't so pathetic and hypocritical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #30 July 16, 2014 So you are all about equal rights unless that person is a white christian. And in such an instance you use words like hypocrite...which is humorous to me because you are all for killing an unborn fetus...then getting a t-shirt to commemorate the event, and those who oppose the idea are 'at war with women' and yet when someone who has been convicted of murdering a multitude of people...well we can't execute him because that would be INHUMANE. Your hypocrisy is equal to any you described in this thread...the only difference is you have your head stuck so far in the pot you don't know that your hypocrisy stinks just as much as anyone elses...but being a democrat you are unwilling to accept your failures and instead just blame george bush and the koch brothers because when facts are implemented the best you can do is call someone a racist, or a hypocrite. And THAT is equally just as pathetic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,610 #31 July 16, 2014 QuoteSo you are all about equal rights unless that person is a white christian. How do you figure he's against Ron's rights?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funjumper101 15 #32 July 17, 2014 regulatorSo you are all about equal rights unless that person is a white christian. And in such an instance you use words like hypocrite...which is humorous to me because you are all for killing an unborn fetus...then getting a t-shirt to commemorate the event, and those who oppose the idea are 'at war with women' and yet when someone who has been convicted of murdering a multitude of people...well we can't execute him because that would be INHUMANE. Your hypocrisy is equal to any you described in this thread...the only difference is you have your head stuck so far in the pot you don't know that your hypocrisy stinks just as much as anyone elses...but being a democrat you are unwilling to accept your failures and instead just blame george bush and the koch brothers because when facts are implemented the best you can do is call someone a racist, or a hypocrite. And THAT is equally just as pathetic. Ron is free to write and say what he wants to. He is also free to make his own decisions on personal medical care, without a massive burden imposed by self righteous assholes that want to control the decisions that other people make. He is free to live his life as he chooses. My sisters, nieces, and grand-nieces are not, thanks to nosy fuckers that want to have a say in their personal medical decisions. I have a MAJOR problem with people like Ron trying to force their beliefs and practices upon others. I grew up in Massachusetts, while the "blue laws" were still in effect. As a child, I got in a lot of trouble with the Catholic neighbors when I actively questioned WHY most of the stores were closed on Sundays. Religious values being forced upon the entire population is how I saw the issue. Those that didn't want to shop or work on Sundays were free to not do so. Why were the rest of us forced to go along? I am not all for "killing an unborn fetus". Your use of this term shows your ignorance of developmental process that occurs between conception and delivery. It would be a good thing if, as Hilary Clinton put it, abortion was safe, legal, and extremely rare. The mindset that was present in the mid seventies that treated abortion as a minor issue, not subject to serious consideration and reflection, has passed, thankfully. I am not now, nor was I ever, in favor of abortion. I am in favor of me, you, and everyone else MINDING THEIR OWN BUSINESS and staying out of other peoples medical decisions. The intense concern you and your kind have for "unborn babies", starts at conception, does not include any concern for the mother, and ends at delivery. At no time is there any support for pre-natal care, extending SCHIP, or any other assistance to the mother and child. Your kind just won a great victory for "religious freedom" via the insane decision by SCOTUS to allow a CORPORATION to decide which birth control methods the employee's benefits can pay for. Civilized countries do NOT execute their citizens, even when the crime committed is exceptionally heinous. I would rather have 1000 people in prison for life than execute ONE innocent person. After you die, track down Cameron Willingham and have a chat with him about the death penalty. How many innocent people on Death Row have to be set free before you and your kind get that the death penalty is WRONG? I support freedom, individual rights, and personal responsibility. In my world view of the USA, legal decisions that EXPAND the freedom and responsibilities of individuals are correct. Decisions that INCREASE corporate and government power while reducing individual freedoms are wrong. That makes me rather Libertarian. I am not a member of any political party. I vote for the candidates that come closest to matching my personal beliefs, and support causes and issues that matter to me. I recently voted for Republican candidate over a Democratic candidate in a local election. The moderate Republican's campaign positions were more in line with how things should be administered in this county. The current National Republican Party is absolutely engaged in a war on women. Provided that the half of the population that is less than average intelligence catches on, that should come to a screeching halt PDQ. Unfortunately, since media ownership has been allowed to consolidate, the accuracy of the information presented has gone down considerably. When you control the information, you control the minds of the less intelligent. Joseph Goebbels would be very proud of the success of the Right Wing Conservatives in controlling, in large part, the information provided to the masses. That leads the less intelligent to vote for politicians that are in favor of policies that would actually hurt them. A great example of this is Ron's support for Republican politicians over Democratic politicians. Ron does not understand that he is now part of the 47% of the population that is a "taker" not a "maker". Ron is a drag on the economy. He doesn't work. He is collecting fat benefits from social programs that Conservatives oppose, and want to end. When Republican politicians talk about cutting "entitlements", that is weasel words that refer to Social Security and Medicare. Ron voting for those politicians is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders. Those same politicians have no problem cutting taxes for corporations and the very wealthy. That leaves the rest of us holding the bag. We really are that stupid. In the 1950s, corporate taxes paid about 42% of the US budget. As of this year, that number has dropped to 17% We, the people, are stuck holding the bag. These same corporations do everything they can to avoid taxes, with the expectation that the US Military will be used to "protect their interests" if other countries start to impede their business operations. For example, if Singapore, Malaysia, and Indonesia decided to impose a transit tax on passage through the Strait of Malacca, the US Military would be engaged to prevent collection, if diplomatic means failed. Do a little reading of Smedley Butler's writings. What was true then is true now, in spite of 100 years passing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #33 July 17, 2014 funjumper101 ***So you are all about equal rights unless that person is a white christian. And in such an instance you use words like hypocrite...which is humorous to me because you are all for killing an unborn fetus...then getting a t-shirt to commemorate the event, and those who oppose the idea are 'at war with women' and yet when someone who has been convicted of murdering a multitude of people...well we can't execute him because that would be INHUMANE. Your hypocrisy is equal to any you described in this thread...the only difference is you have your head stuck so far in the pot you don't know that your hypocrisy stinks just as much as anyone elses...but being a democrat you are unwilling to accept your failures and instead just blame george bush and the koch brothers because when facts are implemented the best you can do is call someone a racist, or a hypocrite. And THAT is equally just as pathetic. Ron is free to write and say what he wants to. He is also free to make his own decisions on personal medical care, without a massive burden imposed by self righteous assholes that want to control the decisions that other people make. He is free to live his life as he chooses. My sisters, nieces, and grand-nieces are not, thanks to nosy fuckers that want to have a say in their personal medical decisions. I have a MAJOR problem with people like Ron trying to force their beliefs and practices upon others. I grew up in Massachusetts, while the "blue laws" were still in effect. As a child, I got in a lot of trouble with the Catholic neighbors when I actively questioned WHY most of the stores were closed on Sundays. Religious values being forced upon the entire population is how I saw the issue. Those that didn't want to shop or work on Sundays were free to not do so. Why were the rest of us forced to go along? I am not all for "killing an unborn fetus". Your use of this term shows your ignorance of developmental process that occurs between conception and delivery. It would be a good thing if, as Hilary Clinton put it, abortion was safe, legal, and extremely rare. The mindset that was present in the mid seventies that treated abortion as a minor issue, not subject to serious consideration and reflection, has passed, thankfully. I am not now, nor was I ever, in favor of abortion. I am in favor of me, you, and everyone else MINDING THEIR OWN BUSINESS and staying out of other peoples medical decisions. The intense concern you and your kind have for "unborn babies", starts at conception, does not include any concern for the mother, and ends at delivery. At no time is there any support for pre-natal care, extending SCHIP, or any other assistance to the mother and child. Your kind just won a great victory for "religious freedom" via the insane decision by SCOTUS to allow a CORPORATION to decide which birth control methods the employee's benefits can pay for. Civilized countries do NOT execute their citizens, even when the crime committed is exceptionally heinous. I would rather have 1000 people in prison for life than execute ONE innocent person. After you die, track down Cameron Willingham and have a chat with him about the death penalty. How many innocent people on Death Row have to be set free before you and your kind get that the death penalty is WRONG? I support freedom, individual rights, and personal responsibility. In my world view of the USA, legal decisions that EXPAND the freedom and responsibilities of individuals are correct. Decisions that INCREASE corporate and government power while reducing individual freedoms are wrong. That makes me rather Libertarian. I am not a member of any political party. I vote for the candidates that come closest to matching my personal beliefs, and support causes and issues that matter to me. I recently voted for Republican candidate over a Democratic candidate in a local election. The moderate Republican's campaign positions were more in line with how things should be administered in this county. The current National Republican Party is absolutely engaged in a war on women. Provided that the half of the population that is less than average intelligence catches on, that should come to a screeching halt PDQ. Unfortunately, since media ownership has been allowed to consolidate, the accuracy of the information presented has gone down considerably. When you control the information, you control the minds of the less intelligent. Joseph Goebbels would be very proud of the success of the Right Wing Conservatives in controlling, in large part, the information provided to the masses. That leads the less intelligent to vote for politicians that are in favor of policies that would actually hurt them. A great example of this is Ron's support for Republican politicians over Democratic politicians. Ron does not understand that he is now part of the 47% of the population that is a "taker" not a "maker". Ron is a drag on the economy. He doesn't work. He is collecting fat benefits from social programs that Conservatives oppose, and want to end. When Republican politicians talk about cutting "entitlements", that is weasel words that refer to Social Security and Medicare. Ron voting for those politicians is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders. Those same politicians have no problem cutting taxes for corporations and the very wealthy. That leaves the rest of us holding the bag. We really are that stupid. In the 1950s, corporate taxes paid about 42% of the US budget. As of this year, that number has dropped to 17% We, the people, are stuck holding the bag. These same corporations do everything they can to avoid taxes, with the expectation that the US Military will be used to "protect their interests" if other countries start to impede their business operations. For example, if Singapore, Malaysia, and Indonesia decided to impose a transit tax on passage through the Strait of Malacca, the US Military would be engaged to prevent collection, if diplomatic means failed. Do a little reading of Smedley Butler's writings. What was true then is true now, in spite of 100 years passing. You think I'm a drag on society because I am retired. So you must favor the death panels in Obamacare. Here is a plan for you, stop paying into Social Security and Medicare and tell the IRS to stop paying me those huge burdensome benefits. The benefits that I paid into BTW. And are all of your female relatives engaged in fornication to the point they are afraid of losing their right to kill their babies? I don't think so. I think you live in a very unhappy world and you want shared misery and just can't find it. I'm going to start praying for you on a regular basis. You are on my list now. You need Jesus, not Catholicism, not religion and definitely not BHO and his kind.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #34 July 18, 2014 >And are all of your female relatives engaged in fornication to the point they are >afraid of losing their right to kill their babies? Yes, that's right. The women who are upset over this are upset because they are engaged in fornication all the time and are afraid they won't be able to kill their babies. And people wonder why the GOP loses the women's vote . . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #35 July 18, 2014 billvon>And are all of your female relatives engaged in fornication to the point they are >afraid of losing their right to kill their babies? Yes, that's right. The women who are upset over this are upset because they are engaged in fornication all the time and are afraid they won't be able to kill their babies. And people wonder why the GOP loses the women's vote . . . That was his stated concept in his first paragraph. MY point was that he is afraid and angry without a sound foundation. You have for some time indicated that you walk in the same sand.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funjumper101 15 #36 July 18, 2014 RonD1120 You think I'm a drag on society because I am retired. So you must favor the death panels in Obamacare. Here is a plan for you, stop paying into Social Security and Medicare and tell the IRS to stop paying me those huge burdensome benefits. The benefits that I paid into BTW. And are all of your female relatives engaged in fornication to the point they are afraid of losing their right to kill their babies? I don't think so. I think you live in a very unhappy world and you want shared misery and just can't find it. I'm going to start praying for you on a regular basis. You are on my list now. You need Jesus, not Catholicism, not religion and definitely not BHO and his kind. WHOOOOSSSHHHH - right over Ron's head. Can't say I am real surprised. The person who talked about the 47% being a drag on society was the Republican's last presidential candidate, RMoney. The Republican party, via their leaders, is the group that thinks you are a drag on society. Did you miss the big news during the election, or are you conveniently forgetting WHERE the 47% assertion comes from? In case you missed the details of the 47%, that also includes retired military people, too. RMoney's assertion about the 47% was helpful in preventing his election, thank God. With regard to the Social Security and Medicare benefits you are collecting, the fact that you oppose Socialism, according to your own writings, while collecting the benefits of Socialism, is utter hypocrisy. The money you paid into the system is far less than the benefits you will collect if you live a normal lifespan. Your lack of understanding of basic economics does not validate your situational ethics on this issue. The politicians you are likely to vote for are the exact same ones that would implement cuts in "entitlements", aka, Social Security and Medicare. You cannot, or will not, admit that this is factual information about the politicians you are likely to vote for. Go ahead and vote for them. With luck, they'll implement the very policies they want to, costing you a reasonable portion of the Socialist benefits. You deserve to get what you vote for. Conservatives opposed the creation of Social Security and Medicare. It is well documented in the history of how these programs came to be. Conservative philosophy continues to oppose these programs, in spite of their great success. Conservatives would END these programs, if they could trick enough people into supporting their policies. They try to do this by calling the programs "entitlements", which tricks folks like you into thinking that changes would have a positive outcome for you. Here is a free clue, Ron. If your favored politicians succeeded in reducing "entitlements", this means a reduction in YOUR benefits. I am sure that you have enough money to make for the shortfall in what you had planned on via these programs, correct? If not, you'll just have to learn to get by on less. SIUCC... Death panels administered by Obamacare? WTF? Are you really that gullible? That horseshit was disproved long ago. The "death panels" that do exist are run by the private insurance companies, with no oversight by anyone. This is a better system, according to the Conservatives. No accountability for corporations, no oversight, no regulation. That is GOOD for the average citizen, unless you are the average citizen victimized by the private insurance companies. My female relatives and their activities are none of your business, and none of the government's business. The absolute hypocrisy of Conservatives who profess to believe in minimal government intrusion into their personal lives, while supporting heinous regulations on legal medical care for FEMALES is disgusting. The ignorance of Conservatives, and their hypocrisy, never fails to amaze me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funjumper101 15 #37 July 18, 2014 RonD1120***>And are all of your female relatives engaged in fornication to the point they are >afraid of losing their right to kill their babies? Yes, that's right. The women who are upset over this are upset because they are engaged in fornication all the time and are afraid they won't be able to kill their babies. And people wonder why the GOP loses the women's vote . . . That was his stated concept in his first paragraph. MY point was that he is afraid and angry without a sound foundation. You have for some time indicated that you walk in the same sand. The stated concept in the first paragraph is summed up in four words - MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS What females that you are not married to, or the father of (if they are under 18), do in their personal lives is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. Your twisted misinterpretation is ridiculous. Freedom from unwanted government and corporate intrusion into personal medical decisions is what I advocate for. In theory, that is a Conservative value. You inability to understand these concepts is something that is your issue, not mine. I don't see any other posters failing to understand the basic concepts I write about. Why is it so troublesome for you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #38 July 18, 2014 >MY point was that he is afraid and angry without a sound foundation. You have >for some time indicated that you walk in the same sand. Aren't you currently preparing to flee to a compound in the Georgia mountains since you believe the End of Days is coming? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #39 July 18, 2014 QuoteI'm going to start praying for you on a regular basis. You are on my list now. You need Jesus, not Catholicism, not religion and definitely not BHO and his kind. That list must be pretty long by now, feel free to delete me at any time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #40 July 18, 2014 funjumper101 The money you paid into the system is far less than the benefits you will collect if you live a normal lifespan. Hurray for me! funjumper101 If not, you'll just have to learn to get by on less. SIUCC... I assure you I will get by. Regardless of what the government does. Well, that is unless they just come and kill me, which is not likely. funjumper101 Death panels administered by Obamacare? WTF? Are you really that gullible? That horseshit was disproved long ago. No it was not. funjumper101 My female relatives and their activities are none of your business,.... You brought them into the discussion via your rant. I do not care if they are promiscuous and ignorant of pregnancy prevention.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #41 July 18, 2014 funjumper101******>And are all of your female relatives engaged in fornication to the point they are >afraid of losing their right to kill their babies? Yes, that's right. The women who are upset over this are upset because they are engaged in fornication all the time and are afraid they won't be able to kill their babies. And people wonder why the GOP loses the women's vote . . . That was his stated concept in his first paragraph. MY point was that he is afraid and angry without a sound foundation. You have for some time indicated that you walk in the same sand. The stated concept in the first paragraph is summed up in four words - MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS What females that you are not married to, or the father of (if they are under 18), do in their personal lives is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. Your twisted misinterpretation is ridiculous. Freedom from unwanted government and corporate intrusion into personal medical decisions is what I advocate for. In theory, that is a Conservative value. You inability to understand these concepts is something that is your issue, not mine. I don't see any other posters failing to understand the basic concepts I write about. Why is it so troublesome for you? As I stated above, I don't care what your relatives do. You brought them into the discussion to prove a point and it backfired on you.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #42 July 18, 2014 billvon>And are all of your female relatives engaged in fornication to the point they are >afraid of losing their right to kill their babies? Yes, that's right. The women who are upset over this are upset because they are engaged in fornication all the time and are afraid they won't be able to kill their babies. And people wonder why the GOP loses the women's vote . . . The ignorant, low information, promiscuous female will never vote for a conservative candidate. Your comment has no validity.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #43 July 18, 2014 >The ignorant, low information, promiscuous female will never vote for a >conservative candidate. The reason the GOP loses the women's vote is not that ignorant, low information, promiscuous females don't vote for them. It is that so many republicans consider any women who disagree with them to be ignorant, low information, promiscuous females. Tell someone that often enough and they might start thinking that you don't have all that much respect for them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #44 July 18, 2014 billvon>MY point was that he is afraid and angry without a sound foundation. You have >for some time indicated that you walk in the same sand. Aren't you currently preparing to flee to a compound in the Georgia mountains since you believe the End of Days is coming? To reiterate an earlier comment to you, in another thread I think, I live in a small mountain community populated by patriotic Christian conservatives. We believe in personal responsibility, capitalism and looking out for one another. We love Jesus, the Robertsons and the redneck way of life. We are, "Happy, happy, happy."Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #45 July 18, 2014 jclalor QuoteI'm going to start praying for you on a regular basis. You are on my list now. You need Jesus, not Catholicism, not religion and definitely not BHO and his kind. That list must be pretty long by now, feel free to delete me at any time. Oh no, for you there is hope. I am praying for the other guy to get to a place where hope is viable.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #46 July 18, 2014 > I live in a small mountain community populated by patriotic Christian >conservatives. We believe in personal responsibility, capitalism and looking out for >one another. We love Jesus, the Robertsons and the redneck way of life. We are >happy, happy, happy. That's great. I live in a suburb of San Diego with my family and have a fairly large community we are a part of, made up of neighbors, skydiving friends and co-workers. We're pretty happy - and we're not worried that there will be an upcoming apocalypse, that the End of Days will soon come and destroy the planet. And we feel no need to flee to the mountains. If doing that makes you happy, more power to you. But again, it's pretty funny to watch someone who is fleeing a Biblical apocalypse claim that other people are "afraid and angry without a solid foundation." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #47 July 18, 2014 billvon>The ignorant, low information, promiscuous female will never vote for a >conservative candidate. The reason the GOP loses the women's vote is not that ignorant, low information, promiscuous females don't vote for them. It is that so many republicans consider any women who disagree with them to be ignorant, low information, promiscuous females. Tell someone that often enough and they might start thinking that you don't have all that much respect for them. Although I am not a member of the GOP, I have never heard that sentiment expressed by them. When you talk about certain behavioral practices that implies a certain class of folks. Those people are not or never will be members of the GOP regardless. The concept is not Republican vs. Democrat, Conservative vs. Liberal, it is sin. To deny the existence of sin is to deny God. Conservatives tend not to be in that camp.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #48 July 18, 2014 billvon> I live in a small mountain community populated by patriotic Christian >conservatives. We believe in personal responsibility, capitalism and looking out for >one another. We love Jesus, the Robertsons and the redneck way of life. We are >happy, happy, happy. That's great. I live in a suburb of San Diego with my family and have a fairly large community we are a part of, made up of neighbors, skydiving friends and co-workers. We're pretty happy - and we're not worried that there will be an upcoming apocalypse, that the End of Days will soon come and destroy the planet. And we feel no need to flee to the mountains. If doing that makes you happy, more power to you. But again, it's pretty funny to watch someone who is fleeing a Biblical apocalypse claim that other people are "afraid and angry without a solid foundation." You do not understand. We did not flee to the mountains. We moved up here to get away for the liberal, sinful communities in the Tampa Bay Area. We are not afraid of the end of times. Bring it on. We simply believe that before the final battle takes place in the Mideast a lot of crap, SHTF, will erupt in the cities first. If we have to fight, we prefer to be surrounded by people we know. Furthermore, it will take awhile for the SHTF to reach the mountains. If the infrastructure collapses, we have a better chance of getting by.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #49 July 18, 2014 >You do not understand. We did not flee to the mountains. OK, so you performed an orderly retreat to a more defensible position with other like minded people, to better fight the forces of evil that will participate in the Final Battle. And again, that's fine. But I don't live in fear of the Final Battle, or being attacked by forces of evil. I am not worried about the cities collapsing into anarchy. I don't feel the need to perform an orderly retreat to a more defensible position. I am not angry and afraid enough to feel I have to do that. So while it's great that you pray to get the motes of fear out of other people's eyes, don't overlook the beam in your own. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #50 July 18, 2014 billvon>You do not understand. We did not flee to the mountains. OK, so you performed an orderly retreat to a more defensible position with other like minded people, to better fight the forces of evil that will participate in the Final Battle. No, the final battle will take place in the Mideast. We are concerned about what liberal thinking, open borders, breakdown of our culture and the disintegration of our language is going to do. Our foundation is solid. We know where our strength comes from. We are prepared. Maybe it will work and maybe it won't. In the final analysis, it is God's will. We do not think He is smiling on America right now. FTR, I know you are not fearful or angry. That is that other guy. However, I do not believe you are on solid ground. You rely too much on man. I'm OK with that. You are young and in the end I believe you will gain insight that is not available to you now.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites