Courageous Americans confront illegal immigrants

[masterrig 1]

jakee

***I'm not saying the UN needs to come here. I'm saying they need to go to the Central American countries and clean-up the mess down there.

Oh, well that's a simple solution, I wonder why no-one thought of it before? Let's just send the UN to fix central america. It's so easy I'm sure they'll all have first world economies with 2% unemployment in 6 months tops!

Seriously, dude, what do you think the UN is? What do you think they do?


Well dude, from my vantage point... nothing!!


Chuck

[dpreguy 14]

"Terrorized children" etc bla bla bla..............well I guess I can see why. Their parents don't give a shit about their own children. Dump them on the small towns. Send the children away and forget about them. Dump them anywhere, but just get rid of them. Yeah. Great parents. Have a bunch of babies. Raise them for a few years. Then pay a coyote guy to get rid of them.

Great plan. And we are are supposed to be wet nurses to waves of these young parasites??? They don't speak English. They are covered with lice and most are infected with tuberculosis and are carriers.

Don't pull out the "humanitarian crisis" and "poor little children" bullshit comments. Why are they here to begin with? Why have their parents abandoned them like stray dogs? Who is going to pay for these parasites for the next 20 years? Why have children and then dump them to an unknown fate? Why aren't their parents arrested in their own country for child abuse? These parents obviously think their children are just sacks of garbage to be left on the side of the road. That's what it seems like.

And it is true. The children are blameless, and yes, they are children and deserve our sympathy. Even so, they don't deserve to be in our country.

Another reality is that the parents are gaming the system. Here's how it goes: Slip father or mother or aunt or uncle in. Or, most likely, the uncle or aunt is already here. Illegally, of course. Get that "address" and phone back to the mom in Mexico Guatamala, Honduras (where PD canopies are sewn). Then get the children, by way of coyotes to one of the "deportation stations". The child then has the name and the address of dad, mom, uncle or aunt, or even someone who says they are, in uh... let's say Phoenix, Arizona. They have supplied the Immigration officers this address and name of someone who will be responsible for these children. Now the gaming of the system is done. And works quite well. No one seems to mind that the "responsible person" is here illegally. Then, with our taxpayer's money, they put these lice and tuberculosis ridden children on a bus or put them on those big white immigration busses you see in the video, and take them to the so-called responsible parent or relative.
Two days ago, the newspaper had a story about these children. "....they were covered with lice in their hair" and you know where (not the quote), scabies, (they washed the hair of one of them in a sink, and "...the sink was crawling with black bugs")and nearly all of them tested positive for tuberculosis..." Drug resistant tuberculosis? Most likely. Now these kids will be in our schools and spreading tuberculosis, and if your child is the one they cough on; guess what? Your child will probably suffer because this drug resistant tuberculosis is mostly incurable. On very powerful meds close to forever, with life long reduced lung function. Now your 15 year old girl or boy is playing soccer and can't keep up, because they can't keep up because they have reduced lung function. They are tubercular. And your children, along with these imports are now disease vectors. First date and first kiss? Teens get tuberculosis. Yeah. Your teens. Your children. Read up about drug resistant tuberculosis.
The # 2 killer of humans. 1. AIDS 2. Tuberculosis 3. Malaria. Tuberculosis is damn scary. If you are wringing your hands about the media depiction of these "poor little victims", OK. Invite them into your home. To live with your kids.

So, either the first theory is true - their parents dump their children like sacks of garbage, or the parents are gaming the system. Last count is 80,000. There are hundreds of thousands more where they came from. Ready?

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dpreguy

"Terrorized children" etc bla bla bla..............well I guess I can see why. Their parents don't give a shit about their own children. Dump them on the small towns. Send the children away and forget about them. Dump them anywhere, but just get rid of them. Yeah. Great parents. Have a bunch of babies. Raise them for a few years. Then pay a coyote guy to get rid of them.

Great plan. And we are are supposed to be wet nurses to waves of these young parasites??? They don't speak English. They are covered with lice and most are infected with tuberculosis and are carriers.

Don't pull out the "humanitarian crisis" and "poor little children" bullshit comments. Why are they here to begin with? Why have their parents abandoned them like stray dogs? Who is going to pay for these parasites for the next 20 years? Why have children and then dump them to an unknown fate? Why aren't their parents arrested in their own country for child abuse? These parents obviously think their children are just sacks of garbage to be left on the side of the road. That's what it seems like.

And it is true. The children are blameless, and yes, they are children and deserve our sympathy. Even so, they don't deserve to be in our country.

Another reality is that the parents are gaming the system. Here's how it goes: Slip father or mother or aunt or uncle in. Or, most likely, the uncle or aunt is already here. Illegally, of course. Get that "address" and phone back to the mom in Mexico Guatamala, Honduras (where PD canopies are sewn). Then get the children, by way of coyotes to one of the "deportation stations". The child then has the name and the address of dad, mom, uncle or aunt, or even someone who says they are, in uh... let's say Phoenix, Arizona. They have supplied the Immigration officers this address and name of someone who will be responsible for these children. Now the gaming of the system is done. And works quite well. No one seems to mind that the "responsible person" is here illegally. Then, with our taxpayer's money, they put these lice and tuberculosis ridden children on a bus or put them on those big white immigration busses you see in the video, and take them to the so-called responsible parent or relative.
Two days ago, the newspaper had a story about these children. "....they were covered with lice in their hair" and you know where (not the quote), scabies, (they washed the hair of one of them in a sink, and "...the sink was crawling with black bugs")and nearly all of them tested positive for tuberculosis..." Drug resistant tuberculosis? Most likely. Now these kids will be in our schools and spreading tuberculosis, and if your child is the one they cough on; guess what? Your child will probably suffer because this drug resistant tuberculosis is mostly incurable. On very powerful meds close to forever, with life long reduced lung function. Now your 15 year old girl or boy is playing soccer and can't keep up, because they can't keep up because they have reduced lung function. They are tubercular. And your children, along with these imports are now disease vectors. First date and first kiss? Teens get tuberculosis. Yeah. Your teens. Your children. Read up about drug resistant tuberculosis.
The # 2 killer of humans. 1. AIDS 2. Tuberculosis 3. Malaria. Tuberculosis is damn scary. If you are wringing your hands about the media depiction of these "poor little victims", OK. Invite them into your home. To live with your kids.

So, either the first theory is true - their parents dump their children like sacks of garbage, or the parents are gaming the system. Last count is 80,000. There are hundreds of thousands more where they came from. Ready?

Absolutely! They've tried everything else... why not use their kids. One kid was recently found dead on the Mexican side of the Rio Grande across from South Texas. They use their kids for their 'Free pass) into the U.S. Drug runner use them to smuggle dope into this country. Besides tuberculosis, polio is another problem. It is also on the rise here in the U.S. and we 9supposedly0 had it wiped-out. Not just the kids carry these diseases but adults. Yeah... let 'em all in.


Chuck

[champu 1]

Andy9o8

You see the stupid fuckers and their moronic signs in all the pictures in the news? They're too bamboozled by the Kool-Aid to realize that the places at which they really should be demonstrating are outside military bases, McDonnell-Douglass and Dick Cheney's house.

It would be similarly amusing to see people with McDonnell-Douglass [sic] signs wandering around looking for a company that doesn't exist anymore.

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dpreguy wrote.......drug resistant TB

[dpreguy 14]

Polio. Hadn't heard of that one. Measles. Yup.
Agree with comparison to Mariel Boat Lift. Yes some are 18 and up, but most are teens and a whole lot of younger.
I have sympathy for them, but cannot abide by letting them into our country to infest our children. Gaming the system is so easy here.

And, I still wonder if those parents give a shit about their own kids. It really isn't our problem, but we are making it so.

Problem is: There are hundreds of thousands more.

[masterrig 1]

dpreguy

Polio. Hadn't heard of that one. Measles. Yup.
Agree with comparison to Mariel Boat Lift. Yes some are 18 and up, but most are teens and a whole lot of younger.
I have sympathy for them, but cannot abide by letting them into our country to infest our children. Gaming the system is so easy here.

And, I still wonder if those parents give a shit about their own kids. It really isn't our problem, but we are making it so.

Problem is: There are hundreds of thousands more.

The problem is, we have a gutless, spineless government who's politicians only want votes.


Chuck

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Andy9o8

***I see what you're saying. I am just very much against the idea of 'let 'em all in'! If people want to come here legally, great. We let every illegal who wants to come here in, we're going to look just like the countries they are running from.

Ha! I just KNEW there was a reason why my favorite American foods are Chinese and Italian. Washed down with Guinness, of course.

Yes, all of these things are good. And as long as they come in through the front door legally, hopefully we can keep out the Chinese version of human rights, the Italian legal system and Irish car bombs...

There are some aspects of other countries I'm not to fond of, but some I am. Mind if I help myself to your Guinness?

"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
Life, the Universe, and Everything

[billvon 3,111]

>I'm saying they need to go to the Central American countries and clean-up the
>mess down there.

Ah, so they should "clean up" someone else and leave us alone.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If you ask someone else to intervene in Central America, you have no right to complain when they move their sights slightly north. If you would find that offensive then you have no right to ask they do that to someone else.

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billvon

>I'm saying they need to go to the Central American countries and clean-up the
>mess down there.

Ah, so they should "clean up" someone else and leave us alone.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If you ask someone else to intervene in Central America, you have no right to complain when they move their sights slightly north. If you would find that offensive then you have no right to ask they do that to someone else.

It seems to me that this is an international incident and if 'it's about the children', I would think, the UN would get involved. We could use National Guard troops to seal off our border. I'm not saying they should handle it all. We handle things on our end they take care of Central America. Those Central American countries aren't doing anything about it.


Chuck

[RonD1120 62]

masterrig

I see what you're saying. I am just very much against the idea of 'let 'em all in'! If people want to come here legally, great. We let every illegal who wants to come here in, we're going to look just like the countries they are running from. Our sovereignty as a nation will go right down the toilet. I don't care what all the bleedin' hearts say. As far as I'm concerned, supporters of illegals, supports breaking our Immigration and Nationality laws.


Chuck

I agree. BHO's strategy was predicted by many political observers way back before his first election. Dinesh D'Souza described what BHO would accomplish in his second term if elected. They were right and BHO wants to make America as low rate as the other nations. He strongly objects to America as a super power.

What is so puzzling to me is why educated, professional people agree with BHO's ideology. What do they hope to gain by supporting the decline of our society?

We have posters here in the SC that refuse to see any blemish in the behavior, decisions and consequences of this administration.

The only conclusion I can reach is that the sin and decadence we have allowed as a nation has now reached payback.

We can no longer trust anyone outside of our family and church community. Last night at the Fourth of July celebration we recruited twenty new believers. We will have to bind together in small pockets to survive. We have to create our own borders and negotiate with other groups outside. For many families it will be safer to relocate to countries such as Belize or Costa Rica.

Everyone senses that something is dreadfully wrong. When the Gospel of Jesus Christ is presented correctly the Holy Spirit touches the soul and folks can see and understand. They repent and change their mind. It does not matter what church they attend. What matters is the bond of discipleship as a Christian. It is much easier to deal with physical and natural problems when you are spiritually alive with a positive direction.

I and my family have decided to make our stand in Georgia. We have a community of like minded folks and we stick together. We have an extensive and varied history of survival. Spiritual bonds are much stronger than legal or physical bonds.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[DanG 1]

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For many families it will be safer to relocate to countries such as Belize or Costa Rica.

Irony score: incalculable.

- Dan G

[Andy9o8 2]

champu

***You see the stupid fuckers and their moronic signs in all the pictures in the news? They're too bamboozled by the Kool-Aid to realize that the places at which they really should be demonstrating are outside military bases, McDonnell-Douglass and Dick Cheney's house.

It would be similarly amusing to see people with McDonnell-Douglass [sic] signs wandering around looking for a company that doesn't exist anymore.

Northrup Grumman! I meant Northrup Grumman! Yeah. And I spelled it right, too.

[RonD1120 62]

DanG

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For many families it will be safer to relocate to countries such as Belize or Costa Rica.

Irony score: incalculable.

And yet, you have nothing to offer except castigating judgment. So it goes.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[masterrig 1]

RonD1120

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For many families it will be safer to relocate to countries such as Belize or Costa Rica.

Irony score: incalculable.

And yet, you have nothing to offer except castigating judgment. So it goes.

I don't agree with BHO on anything. I don't like the man. I believe he is deceitful and has a goal in mind for this country that we're not going to like when he finishes his term. I don't believe that is any reason to leave this country. This country has stood the test of time and we'll get through it. There might be a little hard work involved from us but I'm sure we're all up to it.


Chuck

[RonD1120 62]

masterrig

I don't agree with BHO on anything. I don't like the man. I believe he is deceitful and has a goal in mind for this country that we're not going to like when he finishes his term. I don't believe that is any reason to leave this country. This country has stood the test of time and we'll get through it. There might be a little hard work involved from us but I'm sure we're all up to it.


Chuck

Same here, we are going to stick it out regardless. Ray Gano, "Prophezine," is advising people to think about it and weigh the pros and cons.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[billvon 3,111]

>the UN would get involved.

That would be great. And if we welcomed them here then we could reasonably ask other countries to welcome them as well.

[masterrig 1]

billvon

>the UN would get involved.

That would be great. And if we welcomed them here then we could reasonably ask other countries to welcome them as well.

Sure.


Chuck

[Amazon 7]

masterrig

***>the UN would get involved.

That would be great. And if we welcomed them here then we could reasonably ask other countries to welcome them as well.

Sure.


Chuck

Am I hearing this correctly... that conservatives want the UN... to interfere in our Monroe Doctrinal hemisphere????

For almost 200 years now we have taken a dim view of them thar furiners with mucking about in our private little American continents.

[masterrig 1]

Amazon

******>the UN would get involved.

That would be great. And if we welcomed them here then we could reasonably ask other countries to welcome them as well.

Sure.


Chuck

Am I hearing this correctly... that conservatives want the UN... to interfere in our Monroe Doctrinal hemisphere????

For almost 200 years now we have taken a dim view of them thar furiners with mucking about in our private little American continents.

For one thing, I never said that the UN should step foot on US soil. I was suggesing that the UN go into Central America. As usual around SC, it got twisted.


Chuck

[Amazon 7]

masterrig

*********>the UN would get involved.

That would be great. And if we welcomed them here then we could reasonably ask other countries to welcome them as well.

Sure.


Chuck

Am I hearing this correctly... that conservatives want the UN... to interfere in our Monroe Doctrinal hemisphere????

For almost 200 years now we have taken a dim view of them thar furiners with mucking about in our private little American continents.

For one thing, I never said that the UN should step foot on US soil. I was suggesing that the UN go into Central America. As usual around SC, it got twisted.


Chuck

Chuck Dear....
you are not listening...

The AMERICAS encompasses all of our Western Hemisphere

http://www.historyrocket.com/American-History/timeline/1803-1849/monroe-doctrine/The-Monroe-Doctrine-Facts.html

[masterrig 1]

Amazon

************>the UN would get involved.

That would be great. And if we welcomed them here then we could reasonably ask other countries to welcome them as well.

Sure.


Chuck

Am I hearing this correctly... that conservatives want the UN... to interfere in our Monroe Doctrinal hemisphere????

For almost 200 years now we have taken a dim view of them thar furiners with mucking about in our private little American continents.

For one thing, I never said that the UN should step foot on US soil. I was suggesing that the UN go into Central America. As usual around SC, it got twisted.


Chuck

Chuck Dear....
you are not listening...

The AMERICAS encompasses all of our Western Hemisphere

http://www.historyrocket.com/American-History/timeline/1803-1849/monroe-doctrine/The-Monroe-Doctrine-Facts.html

[masterrig 1]

Amazon

************>the UN would get involved.

That would be great. And if we welcomed them here then we could reasonably ask other countries to welcome them as well.

Sure.


Chuck

Am I hearing this correctly... that conservatives want the UN... to interfere in our Monroe Doctrinal hemisphere????

For almost 200 years now we have taken a dim view of them thar furiners with mucking about in our private little American continents.

For one thing, I never said that the UN should step foot on US soil. I was suggesing that the UN go into Central America. As usual around SC, it got twisted.


Chuck

Chuck Dear....
you are not listening...

The AMERICAS encompasses all of our Western Hemisphere

http://www.historyrocket.com/American-History/timeline/1803-1849/monroe-doctrine/The-Monroe-Doctrine-Facts.html

Good point. Someone needs to handle this at it's source ASAP.


Chuck

[Shotgun 1]

Iago

OK, since this is your community perhaps you can answer a question.

Do YOU want these people bused into your community and then turned lose OR where only 5% will actually show up for their court hearing? Do YOU want them out on the streets in YOUR community with their drug-resistant TB, scabies, measles, etc.?

I certainly don't want them in my community or my families community. Call me a racist MF if you must, but every one should be given a sandwich and a Navy boat ride back to where they came from.

I don't have a better suggestion for where to house them while they are being processed. I don't think that those with communicable diseases should be released into the community - not sure how that is being handled. It is my understanding that, while awaiting a hearing, they are to be released to relatives (mostly in other cities) or to shelters set up by charity organizations. Probably a strain on our community, but again, I don't have a better suggestion for dealing with the current situation.

It seems to me we need to figure out how to stop so many people from illegally crossing our borders. And we may need to speed up the process of deportation (or in some cases, asylum) for those who are already here. And perhaps set up a refugee program in Central America so that people can register and be approved or not approved before coming here. Easy enough to say all of that . . .

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RonD1120

***...and pay taxes to support RonD's medicare payments.

RonD1120 paid taxes when he worked to support his Medicare.

RonD1120 is not able to complete his reassignment in the VA medical system. He is on a waiting list. Why is that? Do you think maybe too much money is being diverted for illegal immigrant welfare?

Why don't you tell us all just how much money is being spent on welfare for illegal immigrants? Then we can compare it with other waste, such as corporate welfare for the makers of the F35 (for example), and for foreign wars waged under false pretenses.

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