Amazon 7 #51 June 16, 2014 turtlespeed ***>His "Truthfulness" is even lower than Blair. Per Politifact so far he's at 69% promises kept or compromise reached. =========== Promise Kept (45%) Compromise (24%) Promise Broken (22%) Stalled (1%) In the Works (7%) ============ How's Blair doing? 1 lie that affects 300 million people, vs one that affects 300K put that poll isn't skewed at ALL.How much of your ODS is based on what your elected Party of NO has done... If you want to do the work that the American people voted for... then the stooges of the Party of No come along and block everything.. I guess you feel that is a great outcome for America lack of jobs.. lack of infrastructure... kissing Grover Norquists buttcrack.. a lack of ability to actually govern our country. Your stooges have failed.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #52 June 16, 2014 Amazon ******>His "Truthfulness" is even lower than Blair. Per Politifact so far he's at 69% promises kept or compromise reached. =========== Promise Kept (45%) Compromise (24%) Promise Broken (22%) Stalled (1%) In the Works (7%) ============ How's Blair doing? 1 lie that affects 300 million people, vs one that affects 300K put that poll isn't skewed at ALL.How much of your ODS is based on what your elected Party of NO has done... If you want to do the work that the American people voted for... then the stooges of the Party of No come along and block everything.. I guess you feel that is a great outcome for America lack of jobs.. lack of infrastructure... kissing Grover Norquists buttcrack.. a lack of ability to actually govern our country. Your stooges have failed.... Wait a second. . . Aren't you a registered Republican? That would make it your party . . . unless you are being dishonest about the Republican thing.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #53 June 16, 2014 turtlespeed *********>His "Truthfulness" is even lower than Blair. Per Politifact so far he's at 69% promises kept or compromise reached. =========== Promise Kept (45%) Compromise (24%) Promise Broken (22%) Stalled (1%) In the Works (7%) ============ How's Blair doing? 1 lie that affects 300 million people, vs one that affects 300K put that poll isn't skewed at ALL.How much of your ODS is based on what your elected Party of NO has done... If you want to do the work that the American people voted for... then the stooges of the Party of No come along and block everything.. I guess you feel that is a great outcome for America lack of jobs.. lack of infrastructure... kissing Grover Norquists buttcrack.. a lack of ability to actually govern our country. Your stooges have failed.... Wait a second. . . Aren't you a registered Republican? That would make it your party . . . unless you are being dishonest about the Republican thing. No... Unlike you I do not have ODS... nor do I have a Tea Bag fetish.. I remember when the GOP had statesmen and had an ability to actually govern. I remember when we did important things that built America.. not tear it down. What the fuck is YOUR excuse???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #54 June 16, 2014 turtlespeed *********>His "Truthfulness" is even lower than Blair. Per Politifact so far he's at 69% promises kept or compromise reached. =========== Promise Kept (45%) Compromise (24%) Promise Broken (22%) Stalled (1%) In the Works (7%) ============ How's Blair doing? 1 lie that affects 300 million people, vs one that affects 300K put that poll isn't skewed at ALL.How much of your ODS is based on what your elected Party of NO has done... If you want to do the work that the American people voted for... then the stooges of the Party of No come along and block everything.. I guess you feel that is a great outcome for America lack of jobs.. lack of infrastructure... kissing Grover Norquists buttcrack.. a lack of ability to actually govern our country. Your stooges have failed.... Wait a second. . . Aren't you a registered Republican? That would make it your party . . . unless you are being dishonest about the Republican thing. It's really not a bad strategy...Sometimes it necessary to infiltrate an institution in order to destroy it. Here in Detroit/northern michigan we have informants masquerading as muslims and christians in extremist organizations...it's been pretty effective so far... ...it's been so effective that I've even thought of becoming a priest!Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #55 June 16, 2014 Amazon ************>His "Truthfulness" is even lower than Blair. Per Politifact so far he's at 69% promises kept or compromise reached. =========== Promise Kept (45%) Compromise (24%) Promise Broken (22%) Stalled (1%) In the Works (7%) ============ How's Blair doing? 1 lie that affects 300 million people, vs one that affects 300K put that poll isn't skewed at ALL.How much of your ODS is based on what your elected Party of NO has done... If you want to do the work that the American people voted for... then the stooges of the Party of No come along and block everything.. I guess you feel that is a great outcome for America lack of jobs.. lack of infrastructure... kissing Grover Norquists buttcrack.. a lack of ability to actually govern our country. Your stooges have failed.... Wait a second. . . Aren't you a registered Republican? That would make it your party . . . unless you are being dishonest about the Republican thing. No... Unlike you I do not have ODS... nor do I have a Tea Bag fetish.. I remember when the GOP had statesmen and had an ability to actually govern. I remember when we did important things that built America.. not tear it down. What the fuck is YOUR excuse???? I'm honest and register as an Independent.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #56 June 16, 2014 turtlespeed ***************>His "Truthfulness" is even lower than Blair. Per Politifact so far he's at 69% promises kept or compromise reached. =========== Promise Kept (45%) Compromise (24%) Promise Broken (22%) Stalled (1%) In the Works (7%) ============ How's Blair doing? 1 lie that affects 300 million people, vs one that affects 300K put that poll isn't skewed at ALL.How much of your ODS is based on what your elected Party of NO has done... If you want to do the work that the American people voted for... then the stooges of the Party of No come along and block everything.. I guess you feel that is a great outcome for America lack of jobs.. lack of infrastructure... kissing Grover Norquists buttcrack.. a lack of ability to actually govern our country. Your stooges have failed.... Wait a second. . . Aren't you a registered Republican? That would make it your party . . . unless you are being dishonest about the Republican thing. No... Unlike you I do not have ODS... nor do I have a Tea Bag fetish.. I remember when the GOP had statesmen and had an ability to actually govern. I remember when we did important things that built America.. not tear it down. What the fuck is YOUR excuse???? I'm honest and register as an Independent.Oh really... could have fooled me... Please do not assume anything about me Clint. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #57 June 16, 2014 Coreece ************>His "Truthfulness" is even lower than Blair. Per Politifact so far he's at 69% promises kept or compromise reached. =========== Promise Kept (45%) Compromise (24%) Promise Broken (22%) Stalled (1%) In the Works (7%) ============ How's Blair doing? 1 lie that affects 300 million people, vs one that affects 300K put that poll isn't skewed at ALL.How much of your ODS is based on what your elected Party of NO has done... If you want to do the work that the American people voted for... then the stooges of the Party of No come along and block everything.. I guess you feel that is a great outcome for America lack of jobs.. lack of infrastructure... kissing Grover Norquists buttcrack.. a lack of ability to actually govern our country. Your stooges have failed.... Wait a second. . . Aren't you a registered Republican? That would make it your party . . . unless you are being dishonest about the Republican thing. It's really not a bad strategy...Sometimes it necessary to infiltrate an institution in order to destroy it. Here in Detroit/northern michigan we have informants masquerading as muslims and christians in extremist organizations...it's been pretty effective so far... ...it's been so effective that I've even thought of becoming a priest!Seriously.. dude... I have no words to describe just how paranoid that sounds.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #58 June 16, 2014 Amazon ***************>His "Truthfulness" is even lower than Blair. Per Politifact so far he's at 69% promises kept or compromise reached. =========== Promise Kept (45%) Compromise (24%) Promise Broken (22%) Stalled (1%) In the Works (7%) ============ How's Blair doing? 1 lie that affects 300 million people, vs one that affects 300K put that poll isn't skewed at ALL.How much of your ODS is based on what your elected Party of NO has done... If you want to do the work that the American people voted for... then the stooges of the Party of No come along and block everything.. I guess you feel that is a great outcome for America lack of jobs.. lack of infrastructure... kissing Grover Norquists buttcrack.. a lack of ability to actually govern our country. Your stooges have failed.... Wait a second. . . Aren't you a registered Republican? That would make it your party . . . unless you are being dishonest about the Republican thing. It's really not a bad strategy...Sometimes it necessary to infiltrate an institution in order to destroy it. Here in Detroit/northern michigan we have informants masquerading as muslims and christians in extremist organizations...it's been pretty effective so far... ...it's been so effective that I've even thought of becoming a priest!Seriously.. dude... I have no words to describe just how paranoid that sounds....It's true... http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/photos-raise-questions-shooting-cuffed-muslim-leader/story?id=10308639 Quote The day before the raid, federal authorities filed a criminal complaint that alleged conspiracy to commit federal crimes including theft from interstate shipments, mail fraud to obtain proceeds from arson, illegal sale and possession of firearms and tampering with motor vehicle identification numbers. These allegation were made through the use of confidential informants, the documents state. ...In addition, U.S. Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., asked Attorney General Eric Holder earlier this year for a separate review of the FBI's use of confidential informants. http://wardheernews.com/News_10/Jan/18_Deadly_FBI_raid_in_Dearborn.html Quote He called himself Jabril. Two years ago, a white man who claimed he was an ex-con and convert to Islam started attending a predominantly African-American mosque on a run-down street in Detroit. He touted his Islamic ways while offering poor members of the mosque cash for odd jobs at an auto shop on the city's west side. He told tales of sick family members and brought a young boy to the mosque who he said was his son. Jabril soon became a brother in faith and a confidante of the mosque's fiery leader, Luqman Ameen Abdullah, who was killed in a shootout during an Oct. 28 raid by FBI agents Members now believe Jabril was an FBI informant who infiltrated their mosque. "He built up trust in the community," said Omar Regan, 34, one of Abdullah's sons. Federal officials say they don't send informants into congregations without reason. But last week, U.S. Rep. John Conyers, a Detroit Democrat, called upon the U.S. Justice Department to review its policies on using informants in houses of worship. Meanwhile, federal prosecutors are seeking a protective order to shield the identities of three informants used in the case. Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #59 June 16, 2014 Coreece ******************>His "Truthfulness" is even lower than Blair. Per Politifact so far he's at 69% promises kept or compromise reached. =========== Promise Kept (45%) Compromise (24%) Promise Broken (22%) Stalled (1%) In the Works (7%) ============ How's Blair doing? 1 lie that affects 300 million people, vs one that affects 300K put that poll isn't skewed at ALL.How much of your ODS is based on what your elected Party of NO has done... If you want to do the work that the American people voted for... then the stooges of the Party of No come along and block everything.. I guess you feel that is a great outcome for America lack of jobs.. lack of infrastructure... kissing Grover Norquists buttcrack.. a lack of ability to actually govern our country. Your stooges have failed.... Wait a second. . . Aren't you a registered Republican? That would make it your party . . . unless you are being dishonest about the Republican thing. It's really not a bad strategy...Sometimes it necessary to infiltrate an institution in order to destroy it. Here in Detroit/northern michigan we have informants masquerading as muslims and christians in extremist organizations...it's been pretty effective so far... ...it's been so effective that I've even thought of becoming a priest!Seriously.. dude... I have no words to describe just how paranoid that sounds....It's true... http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/photos-raise-questions-shooting-cuffed-muslim-leader/story?id=10308639 Quote The day before the raid, federal authorities filed a criminal complaint that alleged conspiracy to commit federal crimes including theft from interstate shipments, mail fraud to obtain proceeds from arson, illegal sale and possession of firearms and tampering with motor vehicle identification numbers. These allegation were made through the use of confidential informants, the documents state. ...In addition, U.S. Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., asked Attorney General Eric Holder earlier this year for a separate review of the FBI's use of confidential informants. http://wardheernews.com/News_10/Jan/18_Deadly_FBI_raid_in_Dearborn.html Quote He called himself Jabril. Two years ago, a white man who claimed he was an ex-con and convert to Islam started attending a predominantly African-American mosque on a run-down street in Detroit. He touted his Islamic ways while offering poor members of the mosque cash for odd jobs at an auto shop on the city's west side. He told tales of sick family members and brought a young boy to the mosque who he said was his son. Jabril soon became a brother in faith and a confidante of the mosque's fiery leader, Luqman Ameen Abdullah, who was killed in a shootout during an Oct. 28 raid by FBI agents Members now believe Jabril was an FBI informant who infiltrated their mosque. "He built up trust in the community," said Omar Regan, 34, one of Abdullah's sons. Federal officials say they don't send informants into congregations without reason. But last week, U.S. Rep. John Conyers, a Detroit Democrat, called upon the U.S. Justice Department to review its policies on using informants in houses of worship. Meanwhile, federal prosecutors are seeking a protective order to shield the identities of three informants used in the case. Ok.. if you say so.. but dude General Rippers comments come to mind. That seems to be quite the jump into everyone is out to get you territory. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #60 June 16, 2014 No respect... You take your security for granted. One day it won't be here anymore to protect you...then you'll cry out for help to those who you'd mocked...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #61 June 16, 2014 CoreeceNo respect... You take your security for granted. One day it won't be here anymore to protect you...then you'll cry out for help to those who you'd mocked... I do worry about those who feel those mooselims are out to steal... their precious bodily fluids... Personally I think the American Taliban is far more insidious with an intent to bring down America and to bring their own special brand of Holy Book Law to all the "sinners" here. Follow and worship as they do or be burned at the stake. Same people that our Founding Fathers were worried about and why there is a specific passage right at the beginning of our Bill of RIGHTS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #62 June 16, 2014 Amazon***No respect... You take your security for granted. One day it won't be here anymore to protect you...then you'll cry out for help to those who you'd mocked... I do worry about those who feel those mooselims are out to steal... their precious bodily fluids... Personally I think the American Taliban is far more insidious with an intent to bring down America and to bring their own special brand of Holy Book Law to all the "sinners" here. Follow and worship as they do or be burned at the stake. Same people that our Founding Fathers were worried about and why there is a specific passage right at the beginning of our Bill of RIGHTS. Problem solved: Do you have a problem with the following? QuoteIn recent years, the FBI has increasingly used human intelligence in the United States. After Sept. 11, 2001, the FBI told all of its field offices across the U.S. to increase its use of informants as it made terrorism its No. 1 priority. Keeping an eye on Islamic extremism became a priority and remains so -- as highlighted by the Dec. 25 failed bombing attempt suspected to have been carried out by a Muslim man on a Detroit-bound airplane. The increase in reported cases of informants comes after the Justice Department gave the FBI more leeway a year ago on when the agency could use undercover sources in terrorism cases. The new rules allow the FBI for the first time to use informants and undercover agents in preliminary investigations and to spy on suspects without clear evidence of wrongdoing. In July, the ACLU said in a report that the use of informants has had a "chilling effect on congregants' rights to association, speech and religion. This also goes for christian extremist as well as various secular groups...you just don't hear about it. I'm not game for personal surveillance, but I have no problem with you spilling your guts to me...doesn't matter if you're sitting in a pew, on a prayer mat, or protesting some ignorant cause...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #63 June 16, 2014 Coreece******No respect... You take your security for granted. One day it won't be here anymore to protect you...then you'll cry out for help to those who you'd mocked... I do worry about those who feel those mooselims are out to steal... their precious bodily fluids... Personally I think the American Taliban is far more insidious with an intent to bring down America and to bring their own special brand of Holy Book Law to all the "sinners" here. Follow and worship as they do or be burned at the stake. Same people that our Founding Fathers were worried about and why there is a specific passage right at the beginning of our Bill of RIGHTS. Problem solved: Do you have a problem with the following? QuoteIn recent years, the FBI has increasingly used human intelligence in the United States. After Sept. 11, 2001, the FBI told all of its field offices across the U.S. to increase its use of informants as it made terrorism its No. 1 priority. Keeping an eye on Islamic extremism became a priority and remains so -- as highlighted by the Dec. 25 failed bombing attempt suspected to have been carried out by a Muslim man on a Detroit-bound airplane. The increase in reported cases of informants comes after the Justice Department gave the FBI more leeway a year ago on when the agency could use undercover sources in terrorism cases. The new rules allow the FBI for the first time to use informants and undercover agents in preliminary investigations and to spy on suspects without clear evidence of wrongdoing. In July, the ACLU said in a report that the use of informants has had a "chilling effect on congregants' rights to association, speech and religion. This also goes for christian extremist as well as various secular groups...you just don't hear about it. I'm not game for personal surveillance, but I have no problem with you spilling your guts to me...doesn't matter if you're sitting in a pew, on a prayer mat, or protesting some ignorant cause... You do not hear about it because no one would do it.... its all about the mooselims and other minorities.... its all about who is scary.... so the fear machine can be cranked up.............because................ "Murica Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #64 June 16, 2014 Amazon *********No respect... You take your security for granted. One day it won't be here anymore to protect you...then you'll cry out for help to those who you'd mocked... I do worry about those who feel those mooselims are out to steal... their precious bodily fluids... Personally I think the American Taliban is far more insidious with an intent to bring down America and to bring their own special brand of Holy Book Law to all the "sinners" here. Follow and worship as they do or be burned at the stake. Same people that our Founding Fathers were worried about and why there is a specific passage right at the beginning of our Bill of RIGHTS. Problem solved: Do you have a problem with the following? Quote In recent years, the FBI has increasingly used human intelligence in the United States. After Sept. 11, 2001, the FBI told all of its field offices across the U.S. to increase its use of informants as it made terrorism its No. 1 priority. Keeping an eye on Islamic extremism became a priority and remains so -- as highlighted by the Dec. 25 failed bombing attempt suspected to have been carried out by a Muslim man on a Detroit-bound airplane. The increase in reported cases of informants comes after the Justice Department gave the FBI more leeway a year ago on when the agency could use undercover sources in terrorism cases. The new rules allow the FBI for the first time to use informants and undercover agents in preliminary investigations and to spy on suspects without clear evidence of wrongdoing. In July, the ACLU said in a report that the use of informants has had a "chilling effect on congregants' rights to association, speech and religion. This also goes for christian extremist as well as various secular groups...you just don't hear about it. I'm not game for personal surveillance, but I have no problem with you spilling your guts to me...doesn't matter if you're sitting in a pew, on a prayer mat, or protesting some ignorant cause... You do not hear about it because no one would do it.... its all about the mooselims and other minorities.... its all about who is scary.... so the fear machine can be cranked up.............because................ "Murica We ESPECIALLY listen to those who scream "Murica!!!" You don't hear about it because it wouldn't sit well with Murica!You don't have a clue, do you?Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #65 June 16, 2014 Coreece ************No respect... You take your security for granted. One day it won't be here anymore to protect you...then you'll cry out for help to those who you'd mocked... I do worry about those who feel those mooselims are out to steal... their precious bodily fluids... Personally I think the American Taliban is far more insidious with an intent to bring down America and to bring their own special brand of Holy Book Law to all the "sinners" here. Follow and worship as they do or be burned at the stake. Same people that our Founding Fathers were worried about and why there is a specific passage right at the beginning of our Bill of RIGHTS. Problem solved: Do you have a problem with the following? Quote In recent years, the FBI has increasingly used human intelligence in the United States. After Sept. 11, 2001, the FBI told all of its field offices across the U.S. to increase its use of informants as it made terrorism its No. 1 priority. Keeping an eye on Islamic extremism became a priority and remains so -- as highlighted by the Dec. 25 failed bombing attempt suspected to have been carried out by a Muslim man on a Detroit-bound airplane. The increase in reported cases of informants comes after the Justice Department gave the FBI more leeway a year ago on when the agency could use undercover sources in terrorism cases. The new rules allow the FBI for the first time to use informants and undercover agents in preliminary investigations and to spy on suspects without clear evidence of wrongdoing. In July, the ACLU said in a report that the use of informants has had a "chilling effect on congregants' rights to association, speech and religion. This also goes for christian extremist as well as various secular groups...you just don't hear about it. I'm not game for personal surveillance, but I have no problem with you spilling your guts to me...doesn't matter if you're sitting in a pew, on a prayer mat, or protesting some ignorant cause... You do not hear about it because no one would do it.... its all about the mooselims and other minorities.... its all about who is scary.... so the fear machine can be cranked up.............because................ "Murica We ESPECIALLY listen to those who scream "Murica!!!" You don't hear about it because it wouldn't sit well with Murica!You don't have a clue, do you? Tsk tsk tsk.... I have committed the greatest sin in the true believers eye.... I am not following along as he dictates... OH MY Why is it that those of you who do so much to persecute others are always crying about being persecuted. I see interesting times ahead for those who follow that creed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #66 June 16, 2014 To be honest...I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. It's simple...do you agree with united states undercover officials/agents/informants infiltrating religious/secular organizations in the name of homeland security? And Edit: The greatest sin in the true believers eyes is to recognize the grace of God and to reject it for whatever reason, even if it's your dislike of other "believers..." Also, the hottest "flames" of hell are reserved for those that teach the Word of God out of pretense for their own personal gain, namely, money...sound familiar?Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #67 June 16, 2014 jclalor***http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0612/p01s01-woiq.html Your continued ignorance is even more embarrassing, the article you cite was written in 2007 , Bush signed the SOFA in 2008. You should really stick to gun threads. Ya there is some embarasment here, but it is not mine Obama was talking to Iraq about how many troops should stay Iraq wanted them to stay at some level and they were debating the US on the imunity issue Irag finally gave into that part and Obama moved the goal posts again Irag got so frustrated they finally told them to leave Even Romney talked about the 30k that should be left In any event There is enough blame to go around"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 892 #68 June 16, 2014 Gotta love how "believers" use the gospel more to judge others than as a way to live their own lives. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #69 June 16, 2014 Coreece To be honest...I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. It's simple...do you agree with united states undercover officials/agents/informants infiltrating religious/secular organizations in the name of homeland security? And Edit: The greatest sin in the true believers eyes is to recognize the grace of God and to reject it for whatever reason, even if it's your dislike of other "believers..." Also, the hottest "flames" of hell are reserved for those that teach the Word of God out of pretense for their own personal gain, namely, money...sound familiar? Interesting that you and your fellow travelers are now so very paranoid about the very things all of you wanted..... to protect us from the evil doers..... are now soooo heinous because they are doing EXACTLY as you were told they were going to do. OH.. and look... they are looking at EVERYBODY. Funny how that works out when you hand everything over to them to "protect you"... the FEAR was running deep and some of us warned very loudly to not do the GOAT F#@$ STUPID Patriot Act because W and his boys as well as EVERY level of Law Enforcement immediately used it for all kinds of things that the people clamoring to be protected never thought of ( seems there are LOTS of things they never think of) That said..... I TOLD YA SO ( You can go back and look.. you will find the answer you need to see how I feel about being watched, or how I feel about other Americans being watched who also are just living their lives.. even when we are doing nothing wrong) But Wait.... theres more. Aint it great that the most intolerant among us now have these wonderful tools to invade our lives at will... the Puritans of old must be laughing with glee at this ability ..... that their modern day counterparts have legislated into existence to control the lives of others in the Theocratic States of America Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #70 June 16, 2014 I don't agree with every form of government surveillance, but using these informants doesn't seem that much different than any other "undercover" work... ...and don't start pointing fingers. Obama was the one that promised transparency in government and to encourage whistle blowers...pfffft, ya...how did that work out?Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #71 June 16, 2014 CoreeceI don't agree with every form of government surveillance, but using these informants doesn't seem that much different than any other "undercover" work... ...and don't start pointing fingers. Obama was the one that promised transparency in government and to encourage whistle blowers...pfffft, ya...how did that work out? Who was it that gave the executive branch all that power again??? Unintended consequences... but I am sure this president on advice from those who put the damn thing in place were beating him about the head and shoulders to keep it... or suffer the consequences the next time the evil-doers struck. That is how things are done there. Do you really think it would have been different with McCain.. or RMoney?? To think otherwise exhibits a complete misunderstanding of how power is wielded in Washington Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #72 June 16, 2014 Amazon ******************>His "Truthfulness" is even lower than Blair. Per Politifact so far he's at 69% promises kept or compromise reached. =========== Promise Kept (45%) Compromise (24%) Promise Broken (22%) Stalled (1%) In the Works (7%) ============ How's Blair doing? 1 lie that affects 300 million people, vs one that affects 300K put that poll isn't skewed at ALL.How much of your ODS is based on what your elected Party of NO has done... If you want to do the work that the American people voted for... then the stooges of the Party of No come along and block everything.. I guess you feel that is a great outcome for America lack of jobs.. lack of infrastructure... kissing Grover Norquists buttcrack.. a lack of ability to actually govern our country. Your stooges have failed.... Wait a second. . . Aren't you a registered Republican? That would make it your party . . . unless you are being dishonest about the Republican thing. No... Unlike you I do not have ODS... nor do I have a Tea Bag fetish.. I remember when the GOP had statesmen and had an ability to actually govern. I remember when we did important things that built America.. not tear it down. What the fuck is YOUR excuse???? I'm honest and register as an Independent.Oh really... could have fooled me... Please do not assume anything about me Clint. What is to assume? You admit it freely. I'm confused.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #73 June 16, 2014 Amazon***I don't agree with every form of government surveillance, but using these informants doesn't seem that much different than any other "undercover" work... ...and don't start pointing fingers. Obama was the one that promised transparency in government and to encourage whistle blowers...pfffft, ya...how did that work out? Who was it that gave the executive branch all that power again??? Unintended consequences... but I am sure this president on advice from those who put the damn thing in place were beating him about the head and shoulders to keep it... or suffer the consequences the next time the evil-doers struck. That is how things are done there. Do you really think it would have been different with McCain.. or RMoney?? To think otherwise exhibits a complete misunderstanding of how power is wielded in Washington Obama had his chance to vote against the FISA bill amendments but opted not to in favor of "beefing up" his national security credentials for the election...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bertt 0 #74 June 17, 2014 "At what number of military does it actually become Boots on the ground? " Apparently somewhere north of 270. "Statement from Pentagon Press Secretary RADM John Kirby on DoD Support to US Embassy Baghdad At the request of the U.S. State Department, the Department of Defense continues to provide security assistance for embassy personnel inside Iraq. Over the weekend, a number of teams totaling approximately 170 U.S. personnel began arriving in Baghdad from within the U.S. Central Command Area of Responsibility. We have also moved approximately 100 personnel into the region to provide airfield management, security, and logistics support, if required."You don't have to outrun the bear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #75 June 17, 2014 Bertt"At what number of military does it actually become Boots on the ground? " Apparently somewhere north of 270. "Statement from Pentagon Press Secretary RADM John Kirby on DoD Support to US Embassy Baghdad At the request of the U.S. State Department, the Department of Defense continues to provide security assistance for embassy personnel inside Iraq. Over the weekend, a number of teams totaling approximately 170 U.S. personnel began arriving in Baghdad from within the U.S. Central Command Area of Responsibility. We have also moved approximately 100 personnel into the region to provide airfield management, security, and logistics support, if required." I really hope we are not going to be seeing shit like we saw in the evac of the US Embassy in the Nam... and the clusterf$%ks at the airfield as more evacuations occurred. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
