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Couple in Las Vegas Killings Embraced Anti-Government Ideology

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I'm sure that he thought that all would go well for him. He was wrong.

I wonder what type of training he had to handle such a situation? Further more, he could had just as easily been shot by the police as he may had been seen as the threat.



How are you so sure? I have not even read the story your discussing so maybe the details are in there that he thought he was safe to do so. I doubt they are though and if I am wrong I apologize. But I would never ever ever assume like you do. That someone that tries to help does not realize the risk they are taking. I would think quite the opposite of a good samaritan if I were forced to assume but usually I reserve that judgement for the extremest on both sides of the isle

You are right that I had made an unfair assumption. I am sure, however, that he had good intentions and was thinking of others. How he thought the situation would play out for himself, you are right, I cannot say.

Far too many people do not consider the repercussions of getting a Carry Permit.

Very few of them have a clue of what they will do when the time comes to remove the weapon from its holster.

You can take all the classes you want... and you can spend hours and hours at the range burning powder and killing paper... but when some asshole is there in front of you threatening your life or taking other peoples lives... all that tough guy talk has just been that... what are you going to do.

And you can say all of this because you are the smartest person in the room
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You can read minds and fortell outcomes

Amazing:S
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Giving your life so that others may live is heroistic.



I agree.

So, who did he save? They had the opportunity to kill unarmed people...and they chose not to. Then he showed up with a gun and got himself killed.

Who exactly did he save?

Getting yourself killed saving no one is not being a hero....it is being stupid.

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rushmc

At least you can say that our Gun Banner n Chief and you are on the same page

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/380033/obama-praises-australias-gun-confiscation-charles-c-w-cooke



Obama has not banned any guns. However, something is seriously wrong. There has been 74 school shootings since the Newtown massacre.
"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
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you can spend hours and hours at the range burning powder and killing paper... but when some asshole is there in front of you threatening your life or taking other peoples lives... all that tough guy talk has just been that... what are you going to do.



I suspect I'd walk up to the asshole and tape a paper target to his chest.

From what I've read here in the forums......I believe I'm required to do this in France. (Unless I'm a member of a privileged class, like a Jeweler).



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I'm sure that he thought that all would go well for him. He was wrong.

I wonder what type of training he had to handle such a situation? Further more, he could had just as easily been shot by the police as he may had been seen as the threat.



How are you so sure? I have not even read the story your discussing so maybe the details are in there that he thought he was safe to do so. I doubt they are though and if I am wrong I apologize. But I would never ever ever assume like you do. That someone that tries to help does not realize the risk they are taking. I would think quite the opposite of a good samaritan if I were forced to assume but usually I reserve that judgement for the extremest on both sides of the isle

You are right that I had made an unfair assumption. I am sure, however, that he had good intentions and was thinking of others. How he thought the situation would play out for himself, you are right, I cannot say.

Far too many people do not consider the repercussions of getting a Carry Permit.

Very few of them have a clue of what they will do when the time comes to remove the weapon from its holster.

You can take all the classes you want... and you can spend hours and hours at the range burning powder and killing paper... but when some asshole is there in front of you threatening your life or taking other peoples lives... all that tough guy talk has just been that... what are you going to do.

And you can say all of this because you are the smartest person in the room
AND
You can read minds and fortell outcomes

Amazing:S



It is a cautionary note that is designed for those who actually use their minds to consider possible outcomes.. its not fortune telling.. but to consider what will really happen when actually faced with a life and death decision. I am sorry if you feel threatened by actually having to rub a few brain cells together.

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I'm sure that he thought that all would go well for him. He was wrong.

I wonder what type of training he had to handle such a situation? Further more, he could had just as easily been shot by the police as he may had been seen as the threat.



How are you so sure? I have not even read the story your discussing so maybe the details are in there that he thought he was safe to do so. I doubt they are though and if I am wrong I apologize. But I would never ever ever assume like you do. That someone that tries to help does not realize the risk they are taking. I would think quite the opposite of a good samaritan if I were forced to assume but usually I reserve that judgement for the extremest on both sides of the isle

You are right that I had made an unfair assumption. I am sure, however, that he had good intentions and was thinking of others. How he thought the situation would play out for himself, you are right, I cannot say.

Far too many people do not consider the repercussions of getting a Carry Permit.

Very few of them have a clue of what they will do when the time comes to remove the weapon from its holster.

You can take all the classes you want... and you can spend hours and hours at the range burning powder and killing paper... but when some asshole is there in front of you threatening your life or taking other peoples lives... all that tough guy talk has just been that... what are you going to do.

And you can say all of this because you are the smartest person in the room
AND
You can read minds and fortell outcomes

Amazing:S



It is a cautionary note that is designed for those who actually use their minds to consider possible outcomes.. its not fortune telling.. but to consider what will really happen when actually faced with a life and death decision. I am sorry if you feel threatened by actually having to rub a few brain cells together.

Feel threatened???
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"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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***Nope - one is situational with a choice of not having all the tools available. Thats like saying that I would go into the situation armed with nothing, as opposed to a proper weapon.

If you chose not to have the tool, you can't do the work properly.



Your confidence level has been lulled into believing a gun is magic and the solution to the entire situation.

It's not.

It's like the people who have had Cypres fires believing they didn't have to be concerned with situational awareness as long as they had an AAD. It's foolish.

Your level of assumptions dwarfs mine by leaps and bounds.[:/]
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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Coreece

Meh, you know I love you...


...but only in a purely sexual way, so don't get all mushy on me.



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I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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This is from NY Times.

Now, who would have ever thought that the NRA is a hard-core conservative, white movement??? I am shocked to learn that Blacks and Latinos are facing difficulties. /sarcasm off/

P.S.: Next thing we will learn is that the KKK doesn't like to admit Negroes to its membership.


Minority Gun Owners Face Balancing Act

By TANZINA VEGA 2:10 PM ET
Minority gun owners may find themselves trying to balance the practical pros and cons of gun ownership with the hard-core conservatism of the N.R.A.

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