masterrig 1 #326 June 17, 2014 turtlespeed ***you do understand that you can change your affiliation? It seems improbable that the GOP is going to swing back towards acceptability for you any time soon. Is WA an open primary state where your choices in the primaries aren't restricted by stated party choice? AH - but her vote to switch to the left - although not surprising to us here, adds up when you are falsely stating your GOP loyalty. LOL It sits kinda like a Red Herring.MAD got it right... http://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2014/06/03/barack-obamas-unfortunate-new-movie Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #327 June 17, 2014 masterrig ******you do understand that you can change your affiliation? It seems improbable that the GOP is going to swing back towards acceptability for you any time soon. Is WA an open primary state where your choices in the primaries aren't restricted by stated party choice? AH - but her vote to switch to the left - although not surprising to us here, adds up when you are falsely stating your GOP loyalty. LOL It sits kinda like a Red Herring.MAD got it right... http://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2014/06/03/barack-obamas-unfortunate-new-movie Chuck Yes, Yes they did!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #328 June 17, 2014 turtlespeed *********you do understand that you can change your affiliation? It seems improbable that the GOP is going to swing back towards acceptability for you any time soon. Is WA an open primary state where your choices in the primaries aren't restricted by stated party choice? AH - but her vote to switch to the left - although not surprising to us here, adds up when you are falsely stating your GOP loyalty. LOL It sits kinda like a Red Herring.MAD got it right... http://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2014/06/03/barack-obamas-unfortunate-new-movie Chuck Yes, Yes they did! Nice to know that you would leave an American behind on the battlefield. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,085 #329 June 17, 2014 >Nice to know that you would leave an American behind on the battlefield. New right wing motto: "Leave Some Men Behind." Will play well with the Obama-haters but perhaps not so well with vets and active duty military. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #330 June 17, 2014 turtlespeed *********you do understand that you can change your affiliation? It seems improbable that the GOP is going to swing back towards acceptability for you any time soon. Is WA an open primary state where your choices in the primaries aren't restricted by stated party choice? AH - but her vote to switch to the left - although not surprising to us here, adds up when you are falsely stating your GOP loyalty. LOL It sits kinda like a Red Herring.MAD got it right... http://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2014/06/03/barack-obamas-unfortunate-new-movie Chuck Yes, Yes they did! I realize, the U.S. Marine being held in a Mexican jail hasn't been there long enough, according to some people's standards but I haven't heard or read where any moves are being made to get him back. This country hasn't even offered so much as one drug lord for him. If, the thinking is supposed to be that of not leaving a member of our military behind, why isn't someone doing something to get that Marine back? Or is Obama being selective or is it that we don't have any Mexican terrorists at Guantanamo? I wonder if Obama just wasn't looking for a way to help terrorists? Hmmmmmmmmmm... Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 867 #331 June 17, 2014 New left wing motto: "What does it matter?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 379 #332 June 17, 2014 QuoteI realize, the U.S. Marine being held in a Mexican jail hasn't been there long enough, according to some people's standards but I haven't heard or read where any moves are being made to get him back. This country hasn't even offered so much as one drug lord for him. If, the thinking is supposed to be that of not leaving a member of our military behind, why isn't someone doing something to get that Marine back? Or is Obama being selective or is it that we don't have any Mexican terrorists at Guantanamo? I wonder if Obama just wasn't looking for a way to help terrorists? Hmmmmmmmmmm... I sure learn a lot here in Speaker's Corner. Why if it wasn't for this site I would have no idea that: 1. We are at war with Mexico 2. We have Marines fighting in combat zones in Mexico When did this happen? Why hasn't this been reported in the MSM? Is the media covering for Obama again, hoping that we wouldn't find out that we've invaded Mexico? Why did we invade? What's the objective? What's the exit strategy? So many questions, so few answers. Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #333 June 17, 2014 GeorgiaDonQuoteI realize, the U.S. Marine being held in a Mexican jail hasn't been there long enough, according to some people's standards but I haven't heard or read where any moves are being made to get him back. This country hasn't even offered so much as one drug lord for him. If, the thinking is supposed to be that of not leaving a member of our military behind, why isn't someone doing something to get that Marine back? Or is Obama being selective or is it that we don't have any Mexican terrorists at Guantanamo? I wonder if Obama just wasn't looking for a way to help terrorists? Hmmmmmmmmmm... I sure learn a lot here in Speaker's Corner. Why if it wasn't for this site I would have no idea that: 1. We are at war with Mexico 2. We have Marines fighting in combat zones in Mexico When did this happen? Why hasn't this been reported in the MSM? Is the media covering for Obama again, hoping that we wouldn't find out that we've invaded Mexico? Why did we invade? What's the objective? What's the exit strategy? So many questions, so few answers. Don You sure stretched that a good ways! Try googling 'U.S. Marine held in Mexican jail'. That should answer your questions. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 867 #334 June 17, 2014 As well as answering to WHY he's in jail in the first place??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #335 June 17, 2014 normiss As well as answering to WHY he's in jail in the first place??? You bet! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 867 #336 June 17, 2014 So you would agree he does actually belong in the jail he's in? Because he does. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #337 June 17, 2014 masterrig You sure stretched that a good ways! Try googling 'U.S. Marine held in Mexican jail'. That should answer your questions. He didn't stretch it at all. We covered this ground before and you just didn't like the outcome. He's a suspected criminal in a sovereign nation that we're not at war with. WTF do you think should be done? And what do you actually know hasn't been done? When you freely admit you don't know, it sounds like you're choosing to argue without the benefit of facts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #338 June 17, 2014 Amazon ************you do understand that you can change your affiliation? It seems improbable that the GOP is going to swing back towards acceptability for you any time soon. Is WA an open primary state where your choices in the primaries aren't restricted by stated party choice? AH - but her vote to switch to the left - although not surprising to us here, adds up when you are falsely stating your GOP loyalty. LOL It sits kinda like a Red Herring.MAD got it right... http://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2014/06/03/barack-obamas-unfortunate-new-movie Chuck Yes, Yes they did! Nice to know that you would leave an American behind on the battlefield. Getting him back I have absolutely NO issue with. Negotiating with terrorists and exchanging 5 to one - I have every issue with. Disobeying law and circumventing Congress . . . Same thing - He should face charges for that. Ask yourself this - how much did it cost to get the deserter back? How much did it COST . . . how much integrity did Obama spend? Oh - sorry - it wasn't his final decision though was it?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 867 #339 June 17, 2014 "What does it matter now?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #340 June 17, 2014 normiss "What does it matter now?" I'll let you know when its proven that one of the five terrorists committed another act of terrorism.But wait - you will see the Left jump up to defend his innocence just to keep Obama from looking bad.Wait and see - it is my prediction. You will see as many excuses as Carter has pills. It will be fun watching them defend the terrorists again.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #341 June 17, 2014 turtlespeed ***************you do understand that you can change your affiliation? It seems improbable that the GOP is going to swing back towards acceptability for you any time soon. Is WA an open primary state where your choices in the primaries aren't restricted by stated party choice? AH - but her vote to switch to the left - although not surprising to us here, adds up when you are falsely stating your GOP loyalty. LOL It sits kinda like a Red Herring.MAD got it right... http://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2014/06/03/barack-obamas-unfortunate-new-movie Chuck Yes, Yes they did! Nice to know that you would leave an American behind on the battlefield. Getting him back I have absolutely NO issue with. Negotiating with terrorists and exchanging 5 to one - I have every issue with. Disobeying law and circumventing Congress . . . Same thing - He should face charges for that. Ask yourself this - how much did it cost to get the deserter back? How much did it COST . . . how much integrity did Obama spend? Oh - sorry - it wasn't his final decision though was it?You do realize that when the war ends at the end of the year all those captured on the battlefield are going to be released right??? I have watched the POW-MIA sites for a long while ( its kinda my thing based on what I did for 8 years) and it has been a non stop call for bringing Bowe home now for a long long time. NOW all of a sudden the usual subjects catch yet another case of extreme butthurt because we traded prisoners just like Israel and other countries do.. hell we have even negotiated with terrorists at the behest of Saint Ronald in the past.. BUTT let the butthurt continue. The president informed congress a couple years ago they would do what it takes to return him.. I guess that is just not good enough for the Please DONT EAT YELLOW snow crowd in their rush to find yellow snow in the summer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 867 #342 June 17, 2014 Gitmo has/had no POW's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #343 June 17, 2014 normiss Gitmo has/had no POW's. http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2012/05/12/bush-convicted-of-war-crimes-in-absentia/ I do believe the World Court feel a tad differently about that. Other countries are certainly pushing for some resolution... I hear there are a few guys that have been found guilty and the list will grow of those who would LOVE to talk with them about the whole thing. We ourselves set the bar so to speak at the end of War II at Nuremburg. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,566 #344 June 17, 2014 masterrigThis country hasn't even offered so much as one drug lord for him. If, the thinking is supposed to be that of not leaving a member of our military behind, why isn't someone doing something to get that Marine back? Or is Obama being selective or is it that we don't have any Mexican terrorists at Guantanamo? I wonder if Obama just wasn't looking for a way to help terrorists? Hmmmmmmmmmm... You are joking, right?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #345 June 17, 2014 Amazon ***Gitmo has/had no POW's. http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2012/05/12/bush-convicted-of-war-crimes-in-absentia/ I do believe the World Court feel a tad differently about that. Other countries are certainly pushing for some resolution... I hear there are a few guys that have been found guilty and the list will grow of those who would LOVE to talk with them about the whole thing. We ourselves set the bar so to speak at the end of War II at Nuremburg.So put them on public trial in front of the media and the world. DO IT! lets see how they feel like defending the atrocities then? Or have you already started defending them, as it seems you have?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #346 June 17, 2014 turtlespeed ******Gitmo has/had no POW's. http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2012/05/12/bush-convicted-of-war-crimes-in-absentia/ I do believe the World Court feel a tad differently about that. Other countries are certainly pushing for some resolution... I hear there are a few guys that have been found guilty and the list will grow of those who would LOVE to talk with them about the whole thing. We ourselves set the bar so to speak at the end of War II at Nuremburg.So put them on public trial in front of the media and the world. DO IT! lets see how they feel like defending the atrocities then? Or have you already started defending them, as it seems you have? That was never going to happen and you know it. But funny thing about international law... other people seem to want to follow it even if your hero's did not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #347 June 17, 2014 Amazon *********Gitmo has/had no POW's. http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2012/05/12/bush-convicted-of-war-crimes-in-absentia/ I do believe the World Court feel a tad differently about that. Other countries are certainly pushing for some resolution... I hear there are a few guys that have been found guilty and the list will grow of those who would LOVE to talk with them about the whole thing. We ourselves set the bar so to speak at the end of War II at Nuremburg.So put them on public trial in front of the media and the world. DO IT! lets see how they feel like defending the atrocities then? Or have you already started defending them, as it seems you have? That was never going to happen and you know it. But funny thing about international law... other people seem to want to follow it even if your hero's did not. No I don't know it and I wish they would.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
propblast 0 #348 June 19, 2014 Some notes from the Post and other news sources yesterday. These are more relevant than your partisan bickering. Full, who was honorably discharged and served with Bergdahl in the same fire team, the military’s smallest type of organized unit, railed against Bergdahl’s attitude during his deployment in 2009 and rejected media reports that he was a sensitive young man trying to define himself during a time of war. ----- Mike Waltz, a former Army special forces commander in Afghanistan, testified that the search for Bergdahl allowed the Taliban to lure soldiers into traps. “My men were lured into ambushes, including an Afghan home rigged with explosives, a car bomb that was primed to explode, and other types of deadly traps,” Waltz said. “All of my men, me included, were absolutely furious and resentful, frankly, that a fellow American soldier had put us into this position.” -----Propblast Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #349 June 19, 2014 propblast Some notes from the Post and other news sources yesterday. These are more relevant than your partisan bickering. Full, who was honorably discharged and served with Bergdahl in the same fire team, the military’s smallest type of organized unit, railed against Bergdahl’s attitude during his deployment in 2009 and rejected media reports that he was a sensitive young man trying to define himself during a time of war. ----- Mike Waltz, a former Army special forces commander in Afghanistan, testified that the search for Bergdahl allowed the Taliban to lure soldiers into traps. “My men were lured into ambushes, including an Afghan home rigged with explosives, a car bomb that was primed to explode, and other types of deadly traps,” Waltz said. “All of my men, me included, were absolutely furious and resentful, frankly, that a fellow American soldier had put us into this position.” ----- Partisan or not - the guy cost resources and lives. There is NO FUCKING WAY that anyone in their right mind can possibly agree that it was a good trade. Well . . . there are some that do . . . but their issues are mostly mental health related.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
propblast 0 #350 June 19, 2014 turtlespeed ***Some notes from the Post and other news sources yesterday. These are more relevant than your partisan bickering. Full, who was honorably discharged and served with Bergdahl in the same fire team, the military’s smallest type of organized unit, railed against Bergdahl’s attitude during his deployment in 2009 and rejected media reports that he was a sensitive young man trying to define himself during a time of war. ----- Mike Waltz, a former Army special forces commander in Afghanistan, testified that the search for Bergdahl allowed the Taliban to lure soldiers into traps. “My men were lured into ambushes, including an Afghan home rigged with explosives, a car bomb that was primed to explode, and other types of deadly traps,” Waltz said. “All of my men, me included, were absolutely furious and resentful, frankly, that a fellow American soldier had put us into this position.” ----- Partisan or not - the guy cost resources and lives. There is NO FUCKING WAY that anyone in their right mind can possibly agree that it was a good trade. Well . . . there are some that do . . . but their issues are mostly mental health related.I think you should reread this thread as you are attacking the wrong person. I am in agreement. I just dont care about the fact that one party did this or the other did that. BB walked off his base and jeopardized alot of folks. His release has done the same not just for folks currently on the ground but for the Afghan people.Propblast Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites