What's everyone's opinion on convicted and registered sex offenders being TI's?

[riggerrob 643]

A lengthy legal trial can prolong the PTSD of the victim.

... and yes, you can suffer PTSD after being raped.

[promise5 17]

If a 16 year old sexually assaults a 10 year old but then keeps his nose clean until he's 26 you would quietly ignore his offence. What if he didn't keep his nose clean but just got better at not getting caught. How would you know ?? Maybe he scared his next victim enough that they didn't report it. But, as long as he wasn't caught then hey his nose is clean so let's ignore his original crime.

I'm being sarcastic, I know. But sexual assault so many times doesn't get reported!!! Especially with children.

No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible.
Believe me I tried.

[riggerrob 643]

Why do you hate the Aleutian Islands so much?

[riggerrob 643]

Roofer?

[promise5 17]

Yes you can and many do.

No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible.
Believe me I tried.

[riggerrob 643]

rehmwa

***Needs the US to grow up about the differences between what is and isn't an actual treat to society when it comes to the category of sexual offense. Unfortunately, the US goes bat shit crazy on the subject and lumps everything into the same category.

amazing what excessive legislation does to common sense. Especially when pols try to pander, or 'zero tolerance' mentalities take hold

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How about if we score sex offenders on a bell curve.
The worst ten percent get castrated, while the "least" ten percent walk free.
Their score would be based on how well they behave themselves in the first five years after prison.

[promise5 17]

DanG

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There are any number of jobs. Hundreds. But, being a TI isn't one of them. I'm not on a witch hunt.

I just wanted one example.

Factory work

No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible.
Believe me I tried.

[Amazon 7]

riggerrob

Why do you hate the Aleutian Islands so much?

I've been there.

[Coreece 190]

Amazon

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There are any number of jobs. Hundreds. But, being a TI isn't one of them. I'm not on a witch hunt.

I just wanted one example.

Eunuch???

*In my House, M.D. Voice*

Wouldn't matter...it's about the power.

A much more hopeful/practical option is addressing the psychological problem of power that manifests itself within the human psyche in a variety of nefarious measures.

Castration would just be revenge...and we all know how much you're against that.

Hey.. if they are into blaming everyone else around them for tempting them with those irresistible bodies.. I would think they would jump at the chance to remove the problem so that temptation is no longer and issue and then have a respectable profession with interesting uniforms. I think its a good profession for them... once they meet the "qualifications"

*Again, in my Gregory House Voice*

Perhaps you're not familiar with the technological advancements with regard to various sexual apparati. Watch the movie "Irreversible" and tell me if that guy actually needed a penis to get off...

We once had a dog that was nearly impossible to deal with. Once he was fixed he was much happier and appreciate of his place in life.... no more fighting with the other dogs.. no more vet bills/time in the hospital.... That approach seems to work in many predatory animals.

There have been many Christians who have castrated themselves thinking that it would help them in their struggle with sexual depravity, but Christ taught that it's a matter of the heart...if you even look upon a woman with lust, then you have committed adultery in your heart. So these eunuchs, like you, have missed the point.

If this is a psychological issue with regard to the ill manifestation of power, then even the lack of a penis will not stop their depravity. Now, you may say that the lack of testosterone may curb their violence, but this isn't even about violence - it's about power...and until THAT problem is addressed, you can expect it to manifest itself in any number ways.

One could even argue that castration may even exacerbate the problem given that he may feel even less of a man...

Perhaps your next suggestion would be a lobotomy?

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

[Amazon 7]

Nah...
The statistics speak volumes... how many millions of innocent women and children and a few men deserve to have their entire lives altered and not for the better by those who feel their pathetic desires trump other human beings ability to live happy safe unmolested lives?

[Coreece 190]

Amazon

Nah...
The statistics speak volumes... how many millions of innocent women and children and a few men deserve to have their entire lives altered and not for the better by those who feel their pathetic desires trump other human beings ability to live happy safe unmolested lives?

If a man with emotional/psychological power issues/problems has his penis cut off because of one of his victims, do you really think he's just gonna go to bed at peace with himself and forget about it?

So much for your "christian" values speech with regard to capital punishment/revenge.

Do you think Charles F. Warner should just be castrated and sent back into society after raping and murdering an infant?

I'm starting to believe that the only reason you're really against capital punishment, is because you think they're getting off too easy.

Edit:
I say lock him in solitary confinement and preach to him everyday of his life...who could possibly argue against THAT as an acceptable form of punishment?

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

[Amazon 7]

Coreece

***Nah...
The statistics speak volumes... how many millions of innocent women and children and a few men deserve to have their entire lives altered and not for the better by those who feel their pathetic desires trump other human beings ability to live happy safe unmolested lives?

If a man with emotional/psychological power issues/problems has his penis cut off because of one of his victims, do you really think he's just gonna go to bed at peace with himself and forget about it?

So much for your "christian" values speech with regard to capital punishment/revenge.

Do you think Charles F. Warner should just be castrated and sent back into society after raping and murdering an infant?

I'm starting to believe that the only reason you're really against capital punishment, is because you think they're getting off too easy.

If a man decides to harm others he loses his rights to reoffend once convicted. If he wants a second chance.. let him make sure his tendencies are lessened and if castration is on the table( you do know that does not include penile removal I have no idea where you are coming up with that) to help control animalistic predatory behavior then fine... otherwise I am good with life is life. I want them isolated from those who are capable of living peacefully and playing well with others of that society. If you see that as vengeful... why in the world do YOU want to be surrounded by people like that??

[Arvoitus 1]

Amazon

******Nah...
The statistics speak volumes... how many millions of innocent women and children and a few men deserve to have their entire lives altered and not for the better by those who feel their pathetic desires trump other human beings ability to live happy safe unmolested lives?

If a man with emotional/psychological power issues/problems has his penis cut off because of one of his victims, do you really think he's just gonna go to bed at peace with himself and forget about it?

So much for your "christian" values speech with regard to capital punishment/revenge.

Do you think Charles F. Warner should just be castrated and sent back into society after raping and murdering an infant?

I'm starting to believe that the only reason you're really against capital punishment, is because you think they're getting off too easy.

If a man decides to harm others he loses his rights to reoffend once convicted. If he wants a second chance.. let him make sure his tendencies are lessened and if castration is on the table( you do know that does not include penile removal I have no idea where you are coming up with that) to help control animalistic predatory behavior then fine... otherwise I am good with life is life. I want them isolated from those who are capable of living peacefully and playing well with others of that society. If you see that as vengeful... why in the world do YOU want to be surrounded by people like that??

So automatic death sentence for murder and thieves have their hands cut off too?

Your rights end where my feelings begin.

[Amazon 7]

They are predators too and murderers have proven they do not belong to be in society with all those potential victims .. the best way to ostracize them is to keep them from ever doing it again. Life means Life. And if they cannot control their violent tendencies there in prison.. then Isolation completely removed from even the worst of the worst.
Thieves are in another class but you know that.. let them make restitution to those they have taken happiness and safety from by violating home and hearth.

[Coreece 190]

Amazon

If a man decides to harm others he loses his rights to reoffend once convicted. If he wants a second chance.. let him make sure his tendencies are lessened

...and as I said before, this is about power, not his sexuality. You lessen it with psychiatric and/or christian help to deal with his power issues.

Amazon

and if castration is on the table( you do know that does not include penile removal I have no idea where you are coming up with that)

Well, you mentioned eunuchs, which in many cases refer to penis removal...and since eunucized isn't a word, I figured to just go with castration, my bad. Penectomy...there, is that better?

None of this even matters...the point is that this is about power, right?

If the mental issues aren't dealt with, then it's really a lost cause.

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

[Amazon 7]

Coreece

***If a man decides to harm others he loses his rights to reoffend once convicted. If he wants a second chance.. let him make sure his tendencies are lessened

...and as I said before, this is about power, not his sexuality. You lessen it with psychiatric and/or christian help to deal with his power issues.

Amazon

and if castration is on the table( you do know that does not include penile removal I have no idea where you are coming up with that)

Well, you mentioned eunuchs, which in many cases refer to penis removal...and since eunucized isn't a word, I figured to just go with castration, my bad. Penectomy...there, is that better?

None of this even matters...the point is that this is about power, right?

If the mental issues aren't dealt with, then it's really a lost cause. Why not just go with lobotomies to stop ALL violent/sexual criminals?

I think it was tried in a few places in the middle of the last century and deemed to not be something we as a country wanted to do. Creating idiots who are morally sane sounds more akin to biblical revenge. Perhaps we will get to where CP is not something we want to do to others at some point as well. A Large segment of humanity has decided they can do without it.
The list of countries that feel its is necessary to murder its citizens by court orders shrinks every year.
What is the most common denominator of most of this list other than the fact they have the DP and use it

From Wiki. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Capital_punishment.PNG
Capital punishment in the world (by country not by population)[edit]

Capital punishment has been used in almost every part of the world, but in the last few decades many countries have abolished it. Usage of capital punishment is usually broken into the four categories set out below. Of the 195 independent states that are UN members or have UN observer status:
100 (51%) have abolished it.
7 (4%) retain it for crimes committed in exceptional circumstances (such as in time of war).
48 (25%) permit its use for ordinary crimes, but have not used it for at least 10 years and are believed[by whom?] to have a policy or established practice of not carrying out executions, or it is under a moratorium.
40 (20%) maintain the death penalty in both law and practice.[1]

The information above is accurate as of 2013 when Chad, DR Congo, Cuba, Qatar, and Zimbabwe became de facto abolitionist countries because they had carried out no executions for ten years.

From Infoplease a bit dated. Bold are those above who joined humanity

Death Penalty Permitted

•Afghanistan
•Antigua and Barbuda
•Bahamas
•Bahrain
•Bangladesh
•Barbados
•Belarus
•Belize
•Botswana
•Chad
•China (People's Republic)
•Comoros
•Congo (Democratic Republic)
•Cuba
•Dominica
•Egypt
•Equatorial Guinea
•Ethiopia
•Guatemala
•Guinea
•Guyana
•India
•Indonesia
•Iran
•Iraq
•Jamaica
•Japan
•Jordan
•Kuwait
•Lebanon
•Lesotho
•Libya
•Malaysia
•Mongolia
•Nigeria
•North Korea
•Oman
•Pakistan
•Palestinian Authority
•Qatar
•St. Kitts and Nevis
•St. Lucia
•St. Vincent and the Grenadines
•Saudi Arabia
•Singapore
•Somalia
•South Sudan
•Sudan
•Syria
•Taiwan
•Thailand
•Trinidad and Tobago
•Uganda
•United Arab Emirates
•United States
•Vietnam
•Yemen
•Zimbabwe

The Death Penalty Worldwide | Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0777460.html#ixzz33YWjpvL4

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Coreece

Well, you mentioned eunuchs, which in many cases refer to penis removal...and since eunucized isn't a word, I figured to just go with castration, my bad. Penectomy...there, is that better?

None of this even matters...the point is that this is about power, right?

If the mental issues aren't dealt with, then it's really a lost cause.

Generally speaking castration involves the removal of the testicles, not the penis.

If you're right about the power thing, then why does chemical castration work?

Treatment of sex offenders with medroxyprogesterone acetate

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Forty-eight male patients with long-standing histories of deviant sexual behavior received medroxyprogesterone acetate and milieu therapy for up to 12 months. Forty subjects responded positively, all within 3 weeks, with diminished frequency of sexual fantasies and arousal, decreased desire for deviant sexual behavior, increased control over sexual urges, and improvement in psychosocial functioning. Improvement in deviant sexual behavior and psychosocial functioning was maintained after treatment ended, and there was no evidence of permanent physiological changes. The author suggests that medroxyprogesterone acetate associated with counseling may be the treatment of choice for patients with long-term deviant sexual behavior. He discusses the ethical issues involved.

Your rights end where my feelings begin.

[Coreece 190]

Amazon

******If a man decides to harm others he loses his rights to reoffend once convicted. If he wants a second chance.. let him make sure his tendencies are lessened

...and as I said before, this is about power, not his sexuality. You lessen it with psychiatric and/or christian help to deal with his power issues.

Amazon

and if castration is on the table( you do know that does not include penile removal I have no idea where you are coming up with that)

Well, you mentioned eunuchs, which in many cases refer to penis removal...and since eunucized isn't a word, I figured to just go with castration, my bad. Penectomy...there, is that better?

None of this even matters...the point is that this is about power, right?

If the mental issues aren't dealt with, then it's really a lost cause. Why not just go with lobotomies to stop ALL violent/sexual criminals?

I think it was tried in a few places in the middle of the last century and deemed to not be something we as a country wanted to do.

...and I would hope we as a country wouldn't just start castrating them all. We shouldn't have that right, especially when that's not the problem. It's a mental illness...a fact you keep avoiding.

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

[Amazon 7]

It's a mental illness...a fact you keep avoiding.

Because I am not buying that EXCUSE. I realize there are just some people who are evil and using excuses because they get caught . They chose to select the wrong path between right and wrong. There needs to be repercussions for that type of decision.
To get this back to just sexual predators... what gives someone the right to violate another human being because he wants to get his dick wet and can't find a willing subject to help him with that. There are plenty of professionals ready willing and able to help them with their sexual problem.

Then you have those who would prey on children.. sorry... but there is no excuse for that under any rationale what so ever.

[Coreece 190]

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The author suggests that medroxyprogesterone acetate associated with counseling may be the treatment of choice for patients with long-term deviant sexual behavior.

I have no problem with it as long as it's a voluntary component of continuous psychiatric counseling and treatment.

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

[Coreece 190]

Amazon

It's a mental illness...a fact you keep avoiding.

Because I am not buying that EXCUSE. I realize there are just some people who are evil and using excuses because they get caught . They chose to select the wrong path between right and wrong. There needs to be repercussions for that type of decision.

Ya, it's called prison...

Amazon

To get this back to just sexual predators... what gives someone the right to violate another human being because he wants to get his dick wet and can't find a willing subject to help him with that.

Nothing, but the point was that he wants and unwilling subject, not a willing one...it's about power.

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

[normiss 897]

What a retarded thread this has become.

From a sexual offender list to castrating people on the list.

I'm not mooning that damn plane again.
I like my tallywhacker where it is.



Sometimes, I'm actually surprised humans aren't more violent to each other.

[promise5 17]

It went off the deep end. I wish it hadn't. When extremes are brought in that's when people stop listening. This is to important of a topic for people to just discredit it.

But thanks to everyone that posted even if we disagree.

No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible.
Believe me I tried.

[Coreece 190]

promise5

***What a retarded thread this has become.

From a sexual offender list to castrating people on the list.

It went off the deep end. I wish it hadn't. When extremes are brought in that's when people stop listening. This is to important of a topic for people to just discredit it.

I felt it was extreme as well. People tend to cringe at the idea of castration, but chemical castration imo isn't really castration. It's basically hormone therapy and even used to treat prostate cancer.

Several states already sentence some serious sexual offenders to chemical castration. Now while I don't agree with involuntary hormone therapy, I think it's a viable and reversible solution for those that want to get help...even for those that haven't been caught yet.

This is too important of a topic for people to just discredit it, so perhaps we should just stop calling it castration?

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

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normiss

What a retarded thread this has become.

This is why we can't have nice things.

That said, let he who is without trollishness cast the first whatever.

quade -
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