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***Never have I ever indicated I did not support our troops. So Kiss My Ass.

When is Obama going to Fire Shinseki?

Want to bet that you voted for some of the people who voted against the Veterans jobs Bills??? How about the representatives you voted for who voted to CUT VA funding???

Support for veterans means a bit more than just talking the pleasantries and homilies.

Actions as they say.. speak louder than words.

You mean like the action of treating the prisoners in Gitmo better than veterans?

Wasn't Gitmo supposed to be closed down? I remember hearing a president say that . . . which one do you think it was?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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******Never have I ever indicated I did not support our troops. So Kiss My Ass.

When is Obama going to Fire Shinseki?

Want to bet that you voted for some of the people who voted against the Veterans jobs Bills??? How about the representatives you voted for who voted to CUT VA funding???

Support for veterans means a bit more than just talking the pleasantries and homilies.

Actions as they say.. speak louder than words.

You mean like the action of treating the prisoners in Gitmo better than veterans?

Wasn't Gitmo supposed to be closed down? I remember hearing a president say that . . . which one do you think it was?

I wonder how many NIMBY's there have been across the country that may have blocked that campaign promise... like all the votes to block jobs... for veterans and others... or to block funding for veterans.

Actions as they say... speak louder than words.

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*********Never have I ever indicated I did not support our troops. So Kiss My Ass.

When is Obama going to Fire Shinseki?

Want to bet that you voted for some of the people who voted against the Veterans jobs Bills??? How about the representatives you voted for who voted to CUT VA funding???

Support for veterans means a bit more than just talking the pleasantries and homilies.

Actions as they say.. speak louder than words.

You mean like the action of treating the prisoners in Gitmo better than veterans?

Wasn't Gitmo supposed to be closed down? I remember hearing a president say that . . . which one do you think it was?

I wonder how many NIMBY's there have been across the country that may have blocked that campaign promise... like all the votes to block jobs... for veterans and others... or to block funding for veterans.

Actions as they say... speak louder than words.

Inaction even louder.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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************Never have I ever indicated I did not support our troops. So Kiss My Ass.

When is Obama going to Fire Shinseki?

Want to bet that you voted for some of the people who voted against the Veterans jobs Bills??? How about the representatives you voted for who voted to CUT VA funding???

Support for veterans means a bit more than just talking the pleasantries and homilies.

Actions as they say.. speak louder than words.

You mean like the action of treating the prisoners in Gitmo better than veterans?

Wasn't Gitmo supposed to be closed down? I remember hearing a president say that . . . which one do you think it was?

I wonder how many NIMBY's there have been across the country that may have blocked that campaign promise... like all the votes to block jobs... for veterans and others... or to block funding for veterans.

Actions as they say... speak louder than words.

Inaction even louder.

THEN QUIT VOTING FOR IT!!!!!!

[billvon 3,107]

Your one warning. Cut it out.

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******Never have I ever indicated I did not support our troops. So Kiss My Ass.

When is Obama going to Fire Shinseki?

Want to bet that you voted for some of the people who voted against the Veterans jobs Bills??? How about the representatives you voted for who voted to CUT VA funding???

Support for veterans means a bit more than just talking the pleasantries and homilies.

Actions as they say.. speak louder than words.

You mean like the action of treating the prisoners in Gitmo better than veterans?

Wasn't Gitmo supposed to be closed down? I remember hearing a president say that . . . which one do you think it was?

I'm disappointed Obama didn't shut down Gitmo, that he continued Stellar Wind, that we've kept so many troops in Afghanistan and A few other things. Am I glad he's the President instead of Romney? Absolutely. Will I admit that he's far from the "Anointed One"? All day long.

Almost every issue that both parties have taken exception with the president on have been when he's gone to the right on an issue, as mentioned above.

Do I have any doubt that you would support what ever is necessary to take of our vets? Not one. I just think at times you find it very difficult to stray from the GOP script.

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THEN QUIT VOTING FOR IT!!!!!!

I didn't. But it was elected anyway.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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THEN QUIT VOTING FOR IT!!!!!!

I didn't. But it was elected anyway.

Really Clint.......REALLY????

After four years of the treatment this president has had to endure at the hands of the GOP.

FFS if he proposed a 3 TRILLION dollar cut in taxes and a cure for cancer had been discovered by a program that was put in place by his administration... the GOP would still oppose it.

He was elected b the American people following a process that is touted as one of the least corrupt in the world. Get over it!!!

I really wish some people around here would quit pissing on all of our legs... and trying to convince us that its just raining.

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******

THEN QUIT VOTING FOR IT!!!!!!

I didn't. But it was elected anyway.

Really Clint.......REALLY????

After four years of the treatment this president has had to endure at the hands of the GOP.

FFS if he proposed a 3 TRILLION dollar cut in taxes and a cure for cancer had been discovered by a program that was put in place by his administration... the GOP would still oppose it.

He was elected b the American people following a process that is touted as one of the least corrupt in the world. Get over it!!!

I really wish some people around here would quit pissing on all of our legs... and trying to convince us that its just raining.

So . . . are you angry that he was elected, or that he hasn't done anything worthwhile?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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THEN QUIT VOTING FOR IT!!!!!!

I didn't. But it was elected anyway.

Really Clint.......REALLY????

After four years of the treatment this president has had to endure at the hands of the GOP.

FFS if he proposed a 3 TRILLION dollar cut in taxes and a cure for cancer had been discovered by a program that was put in place by his administration... the GOP would still oppose it.

He was elected b the American people following a process that is touted as one of the least corrupt in the world. Get over it!!!

I really wish some people around here would quit pissing on all of our legs... and trying to convince us that its just raining.

So . . . are you angry that he was elected, or that he hasn't done anything worthwhile?

I am not angry that he was elected.. I am very displeased at some of the things he has done. He has not accomplished as much as he needed to for this country because of a level of obstructionism never seen before from those who were elected to govern and have shirked that responsibility.
I am not surprised at the level of stupidity that the GOP has exhibited towards the first president with readily evident African American heritage. That is on them... and I would lay you odds that a hell of a lot of the good ole boys you vote for have some not as evident Sub Saharan African in their DNA makeup. Chew on that next time... demand they get a DNA test if you want to make sure of who you are voting for.

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specifically
what could he have accomplished?

You know
specifically

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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************

THEN QUIT VOTING FOR IT!!!!!!

I didn't. But it was elected anyway.

Really Clint.......REALLY????

After four years of the treatment this president has had to endure at the hands of the GOP.

FFS if he proposed a 3 TRILLION dollar cut in taxes and a cure for cancer had been discovered by a program that was put in place by his administration... the GOP would still oppose it.

He was elected b the American people following a process that is touted as one of the least corrupt in the world. Get over it!!!

I really wish some people around here would quit pissing on all of our legs... and trying to convince us that its just raining.

So . . . are you angry that he was elected, or that he hasn't done anything worthwhile?

I am not angry that he was elected.. I am very displeased at some of the things he has done. He has not accomplished as much as he needed to for this country because of a level of obstructionism never seen before from those who were elected to govern and have shirked that responsibility.
I am not surprised at the level of stupidity that the GOP has exhibited towards the first president with readily evident African American heritage. That is on them... and I would lay you odds that a hell of a lot of the good ole boys you vote for have some not as evident Sub Saharan African in their DNA makeup. Chew on that next time... demand they get a DNA test if you want to make sure of who you are voting for.

Just as you demand that your candidates get tested?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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Actions as they say... speak louder than words.

Inaction even louder.

How on earth can inaction be louder than action? When someone acts, there's really no doubting it occurred. Inaction can be from deliberate neglect, from neglect, forgetfulness, or merely being at the end of a list of tasks. Only the first one is close, but rarely provable.

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Actions as they say... speak louder than words.

Inaction even louder.

How on earth can inaction be louder than action? When someone acts, there's really no doubting it occurred. Inaction can be from deliberate neglect, from neglect, forgetfulness, or merely being at the end of a list of tasks. Only the first one is close, but rarely provable.

Scenario:
You, walking down a street, guy starts mugging you. As the mugger holds a gun to your head, and his finger whitens on the trigger. A card carrying NRA member with a holstered 40 caliber happens upon the mugging and he upholsters his weapon . . . he sees the mugger is about to fire . . . NRA guy has his finger and does he act, by pulling the trigger and stopping your murder, or not?

Which do you think would affect you the most, action, or inaction?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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******

Quote

Actions as they say... speak louder than words.

Inaction even louder.

How on earth can inaction be louder than action? When someone acts, there's really no doubting it occurred. Inaction can be from deliberate neglect, from neglect, forgetfulness, or merely being at the end of a list of tasks. Only the first one is close, but rarely provable.

Scenario:
You, walking down a street, guy starts mugging you. As the mugger holds a gun to your head, and his finger whitens on the trigger. A card carrying NRA member with a holstered 40 caliber happens upon the mugging and he upholsters his weapon . . . he sees the mugger is about to fire . . . NRA guy has his finger and does he act, by pulling the trigger and stopping your murder, or not?

Which do you think would affect you the most, action, or inaction?

If he shoots me, clearly action.

Your scenario is bullshit - rarely is it clear that the mugger is about to fire, and rarely is is certain that our NRA man has a good shot to take. The CCW doesn't not compel him to take the shot and if he hit the wrong guy, it would not protect him from charges. His life wasn't in danger.

In the perfect scenario, he gets to sneak up on the mugger and shoot him point blank. But in more likely situations, he'd probably be doing both of us more good by drawing from a covered position and call out.

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Actions as they say... speak louder than words.

Inaction even louder.

How on earth can inaction be louder than action? When someone acts, there's really no doubting it occurred. Inaction can be from deliberate neglect, from neglect, forgetfulness, or merely being at the end of a list of tasks. Only the first one is close, but rarely provable.

Scenario:
You, walking down a street, guy starts mugging you. As the mugger holds a gun to your head, and his finger whitens on the trigger. A card carrying NRA member with a holstered 40 caliber happens upon the mugging and he upholsters his weapon . . . he sees the mugger is about to fire . . . NRA guy has his finger and does he act, by pulling the trigger and stopping your murder, or not?

Which do you think would affect you the most, action, or inaction?

If he shoots me, clearly action.

Who is he?

Specifically, the NRA guy with a clear bead on the mugger.
What would affect you the most? The NRA guy's action of pulling the trigger, or the NRA guy's inaction by NOT pulling the trigger.

Or are you really that obtuse?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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specifically
what could he have accomplished?

You know
specifically

Lets start with diplomatic security.... shot down by the Government Obstruction Party

Jobs bills to put your fellow Americans back to work.... shot down by the Government Obstruction Party

Benefits for Homeless Veterans... a true thank you for your service from the Government Obstruction Party

Veterans Jobs bill ....Slap in the face to our service men and women from the Government Obstruction Party

Those are just the ones that piss me off the most.

All of these things harm and cause great hardship for other Americans... in many cases.. the ones you are supposedly thanking for their service

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Sorry but I do not really care what someone's genetic makeup is. What I expect of legislators is if they are doing the countries business that they have been elected to do.. not doing only the bidding of those who bought them with million dollar PAC donations.

Now the sheet wearin folk might start demanding DNA testing of their prospective legislators or members... that would not surprise me.

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not doing only the bidding of those who bought them with million dollar PAC donations.

I thought you liked the way Obama does things.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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He was elected b the American people following a process that is touted as one of the least corrupt in the world.

By Americans.

(When they're not complaining about Florida vote counts, ACORN, illegal immigrants in the polling booth and foreigners in the White House)

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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What would affect you the most? The NRA guy's action of pulling the trigger, or the NRA guy's inaction by NOT pulling the trigger.

The action of the mugger, clearly.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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If he shoots me, clearly action.

Who is he?

Specifically, the NRA guy with a clear bead on the mugger.
What would affect you the most? The NRA guy's action of pulling the trigger, or the NRA guy's inaction by NOT pulling the trigger.

Or are you really that obtuse?

far less so than you, who knew exactly what I wrote out and yet chose to play stupid. I should have known better, so my reply was really directed at the people who aren't raving nuts either for or against guns.

This is as close as it gets to trying to prove that 1x > 2x. You can try as hard as you life, but it just isn't going to fly unless you can expand the cases where x = 0.

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***specifically
what could he have accomplished?

You know
specifically

Lets start with diplomatic security.... shot down by the Government Obstruction Party

Jobs bills to put your fellow Americans back to work.... shot down by the Government Obstruction Party

Benefits for Homeless Veterans... a true thank you for your service from the Government Obstruction Party

Veterans Jobs bill ....Slap in the face to our service men and women from the Government Obstruction Party

Those are just the ones that piss me off the most.

All of these things harm and cause great hardship for other Americans... in many cases.. the ones you are supposedly thanking for their service
I gotta wonder what world you live in

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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If this was Bush, your heads would be exploding by now and you know it.

I did happen under Bush, and you know it, too.

Ah
No , it didnt

And even if you think differently
We have NEVER seen pathological lying close to this since Clinton

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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kelpdiver

This is as close as it gets to trying to prove that 1x > 2x. You can try as hard as you life, but it just isn't going to fly unless you can expand the cases where x = 0.

When x 2x

Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.