Fear and loathing in DC

[billvon 3,110]

>. In 20 years this will be forgotten much the same as Sarajevo . . .

"There's only one problem with climate change - it ended in 1998!"

[rushmc 23]

airdvr

I've had an epiphany reading this thread. I've decided I don't care if it's real or not. AGW believers, do your worst. In 20 years this will be forgotten much the same as Sarajevo, Rwanda, Nancy Kerrigan, O.J., and the baseball players strike, and Newt Gigrich as the Speaker of the House. (Yes, I had to look them up)

I care
and they will do thier damnedest

Point is, this is not about the climate
It is about money and control
Same as Obamacare

I fully believe Billvon believes this is real
But I also believe he would have us live as he does. He lives what he believes and he can not be faulted for that but, the liberal mindset is to push their beliefs on everybody else

For sure this is the case and many are hypocrites. Bill, most definatly, is not a hypocrite and I respect that

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[quade 4]

airdvr

I've had an epiphany reading this thread. I've decided I don't care if it's real or not. AGW believers, do your worst. In 20 years this will be forgotten much the same as Sarajevo, Rwanda, Nancy Kerrigan, O.J., and the baseball players strike, and Newt Gigrich as the Speaker of the House. (Yes, I had to look them up)

You realize that's what the citizens of Krypton said; right?

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[winsor 236]

quade

***I've had an epiphany reading this thread. I've decided I don't care if it's real or not. AGW believers, do your worst. In 20 years this will be forgotten much the same as Sarajevo, Rwanda, Nancy Kerrigan, O.J., and the baseball players strike, and Newt Gigrich as the Speaker of the House. (Yes, I had to look them up)

You realize that's what the citizens of Krypton said; right?

Again?

[kallend 2,146]

rushmc

***>No
>Temp increases are a fact

CO2 is a greenhouse gas that increases heat retention - fact
We are increasing the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere - fact

"But. . . . but . . . we can't be warming the planet because then I'd have to agree with Al Gore and I HATE him!" - opinion

All you have is your opinion of what you present really means
You have your opinion period
You can not prove this nor can anyone
The predictions have not come true

BTY, are you a climate scientist? I know you have well educated yourself on the topic but, who should I believe? You, or a renowned climate expert?

Kallend says all the time he would go with the experts

97% of whom disagree with your uninformed assessment.

Even Exxon Mobil now disagrees with your assessment.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

rushmc

Do you think this issue/science is settled?

You support the idea that man is going to destroy the ecosystem if we keep operating as we are today?

Please also remember, I baddly want to have real dirty air and water for my children and granchildern
I can not understand why anybody would want anything other

In other words, you don't know for yourself when you will consider the science settled.

[rushmc 23]

SkyDekker

***Do you think this issue/science is settled?

You support the idea that man is going to destroy the ecosystem if we keep operating as we are today?

Please also remember, I baddly want to have real dirty air and water for my children and granchildern
I can not understand why anybody would want anything other

In other words, you don't know for yourself when you will consider the science settled.

How about you answering my questions?

As for me I think it is clear
You can spin it any way you want to

Now, yoi goint to answer my question?

I answered yours

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[StreetScooby 5]

Quote

...no one worried about climate changedisruption..

Fixed it for you.

We are all engines of karma

[rushmc 23]

SkyDekker

***Do you think this issue/science is settled?

You support the idea that man is going to destroy the ecosystem if we keep operating as we are today?

Please also remember, I baddly want to have real dirty air and water for my children and granchildern
I can not understand why anybody would want anything other

In other words, you don't know for yourself when you will consider the science settled.

Have you been away?

Or are you just too afraid to answer questions that may expose your?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[masterrig 1]

StreetScooby

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...no one worried about climate changedisruption..

Fixed it for you.

Heavy snow storms today in Wyoming and Colorado. 4-9" in lower elevations. Up to 15" in the higher elevations. It's May, for cryin' out loud!

http://home.myhughesnet.com/news/read/article/the_associated_press-spring_snowstorm_barging_into_colorado_wyoming-ap

Chuck

[rushmc 23]

Oh oh, another alarmist claim debunked?

Quote

Himalayan glaciers - for years one of the poster children of the "man-made global warming is real and we're all doomed" movement - are in no imminent danger whatsoever, a new study has found.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/05/12/Study-Himalayan-glaciers-not-disappearing-after-all

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,146]

Then again:

www.nytimes.com/2014/05/13/science/earth/collapse-of-parts-of-west-antarctica-ice-sheet-has-begun-scientists-say.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[kallend 2,146]

rushmc

Oh oh, another alarmist claim debunked?

Quote

Himalayan glaciers - for years one of the poster children of the "man-made global warming is real and we're all doomed" movement - are in no imminent danger whatsoever, a new study has found.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/05/12/Study-Himalayan-glaciers-not-disappearing-after-all

Do you EVER read the stuff you post?

From your link:

" ... 12 per cent were found to be in retreat."

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[DanG 1]

I like how breitbart leaves out the last paragraph of the abstract:

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The results of the present study indicate that most of the glaciers were in a steady state compared to the results of other studies carried out for the period prior to 2001. This period of monitoring almost corresponds to hiatus in global warming in the last decade. It may happen that an interval of one decade could be smaller than the response time of glaciers to be reflected in terms of any significant change with 23.5 m spatial resolution of data. This point requires further studies using high-resolution data for a longer interval of time.

You really need to find better sources.

- Dan G

[rushmc 23]

kallend

***Oh oh, another alarmist claim debunked?

Quote

Himalayan glaciers - for years one of the poster children of the "man-made global warming is real and we're all doomed" movement - are in no imminent danger whatsoever, a new study has found.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/05/12/Study-Himalayan-glaciers-not-disappearing-after-all

Do you EVER read the stuff you post?

From your link:

" ... 12 per cent were found to be in retreat."

OMG!!!!!!

12 fucking percent!!!!!

We are all going to die!!!!!!!




Oh

and it started 17,000 years ago
(from the other link)

Again
You make this fun John

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,146]

rushmc

******Oh oh, another alarmist claim debunked?

Quote

Himalayan glaciers - for years one of the poster children of the "man-made global warming is real and we're all doomed" movement - are in no imminent danger whatsoever, a new study has found.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/05/12/Study-Himalayan-glaciers-not-disappearing-after-all

Do you EVER read the stuff you post?

From your link:

" ... 12 per cent were found to be in retreat."

OMG!!!!!!

12 fucking percent!!!!!

We are all going to die!!!!!!!




Oh

and it started 17,000 years ago
(from the other link)

Again
You make this fun John

Where did you learn arithmetic?

12 > 0

What do you think is causing the retreat?

Then there are Andean glaciers:

www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/24/us-andes-glaciers-idUSBRE90N0SO20130124

And the west Antarctic ice sheet (link previously provided).

And Alaskan glaciers: www.webpronews.com/alaska-glacier-thaws-ancient-forest-emerges-2013-09

Greenland glaciers: www.weather.com/news/science/environment/greenland-glaciers-melting-faster-thought-raising-sea-level-rise-fears-20140317

Even Glacier National Park in Montana. seattletimes.com/html/opinion/2021579377_jonathanmartincolumnglacier12xml.html

Yep, sure is funny that Himalayan glaciers are just melting a bit slower than originally thought.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rushmc 23]

What do you think is causing this?
Since it started 17,000 years ago.....

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,146]

rushmc

What do you think is causing this?
Since it started 17,000 years ago.....

Well, you've already shown that your arithmetic skills are deficient, so it's too much to expect that you understand differential calculus.

physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2009/sep/24/earths-glaciers-melting-at-an-accelerated-rate

news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/08/0821_020821_wireglaciers.html

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rushmc 23]

kallend

***What do you think is causing this?
Since it started 17,000 years ago.....

Well, you've already shown that your arithmetic skills are deficient, so it's too much to expect that you understand differential calculus.

physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2009/sep/24/earths-glaciers-melting-at-an-accelerated-rate

news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/08/0821_020821_wireglaciers.html

Awwww
getting frustrated??

Anyway
Ii will go with what a leading expert says
You can believe anything you want to

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[quade 4]

DanG

I like how breitbart leaves out the last paragraph of the abstract:

Quote

The results of the present study indicate that most of the glaciers were in a steady state compared to the results of other studies carried out for the period prior to 2001. This period of monitoring almost corresponds to hiatus in global warming in the last decade. It may happen that an interval of one decade could be smaller than the response time of glaciers to be reflected in terms of any significant change with 23.5 m spatial resolution of data. This point requires further studies using high-resolution data for a longer interval of time.

You really need to find better sources.

His sources have what plants crave.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vw2CrY9Igs

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[lawrocket 3]

kallend

Then again:

www.nytimes.com/2014/05/13/science/earth/collapse-of-parts-of-west-antarctica-ice-sheet-has-begun-scientists-say.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

So the climate science community has admitted that mitigation is pointless, so adaptation is the strategy to use.

I see.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

rushmc

******Do you think this issue/science is settled?

You support the idea that man is going to destroy the ecosystem if we keep operating as we are today?

Please also remember, I baddly want to have real dirty air and water for my children and granchildern
I can not understand why anybody would want anything other

In other words, you don't know for yourself when you will consider the science settled.

Have you been away?

Or are you just too afraid to answer questions that may expose your?

When do you, rushmc, think the science will be settled?

[jgoose71 0]

quade

***I like how breitbart leaves out the last paragraph of the abstract:

Quote

The results of the present study indicate that most of the glaciers were in a steady state compared to the results of other studies carried out for the period prior to 2001. This period of monitoring almost corresponds to hiatus in global warming in the last decade. It may happen that an interval of one decade could be smaller than the response time of glaciers to be reflected in terms of any significant change with 23.5 m spatial resolution of data. This point requires further studies using high-resolution data for a longer interval of time.

You really need to find better sources.

His sources have what plants crave.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vw2CrY9Igs

I thought CO2 is what plants crave...

"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
Life, the Universe, and Everything

[rushmc 23]

SkyDekker

*********Do you think this issue/science is settled?

You support the idea that man is going to destroy the ecosystem if we keep operating as we are today?

Please also remember, I baddly want to have real dirty air and water for my children and granchildern
I can not understand why anybody would want anything other

In other words, you don't know for yourself when you will consider the science settled.

Have you been away?

Or are you just too afraid to answer questions that may expose your?

When do you, rushmc, think the science will be settled?

I answered your question
You must be afraid to answer mine

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,146]

rushmc

******What do you think is causing this?
Since it started 17,000 years ago.....

Well, you've already shown that your arithmetic skills are deficient, so it's too much to expect that you understand differential calculus.

physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2009/sep/24/earths-glaciers-melting-at-an-accelerated-rate

news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/08/0821_020821_wireglaciers.html

Awwww
getting frustrated??

Anyway
Ii will go with what a leading expert says
You can believe anything you want to

You cherry pick one.

I'll believe 97% of leading experts, Exxon Mobil, NASA, NOAA and the National Academy of Sciences.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.