airdvr 210 #1 May 6, 2014 White House sets out looming climate risks for U.S., calls for 'urgent action' http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/06/politics/white-house-climate-energy/ Wasn't all that long ago the right was being hounded for fear mongering. Pot meet kettle. Now I lay me down to sleep, a basket of bullshit...Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #2 May 6, 2014 I saw that the report was around 840 Pages? I guess that means no one in DC will actually read it...."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cgriff 0 #3 May 6, 2014 jgoose71I guess that means no one in DC will actually read it.... I didn't know any politicians COULD read... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #4 May 6, 2014 Some people would ignore the facts all the way to extinction. The rest of us can see the handwriting on the wall. Not that we're in immediate threat of becoming extinct over this, but a hell of a lot of the population of the planet is going to be pretty screwed over by it within the next century.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #5 May 6, 2014 cgriff***I guess that means no one in DC will actually read it.... I didn't know any politicians COULD read... They are good at reading anything that starts with "$"."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #6 May 6, 2014 cgriff***I guess that means no one in DC will actually read it.... I didn't know any politicians COULD read... Perhaps that should be one of the things you should vett before voting for one of them. Dumb as dirt and proud of it is one of the things that is right at the top of my disqualifiers list for anyone seeking public office. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GD64 1 #7 May 6, 2014 17 Years ago Clinton and Gore invited all the talking heads to the WH and told them that they should report more on this "global cooling". When the newspaper (WP or NYT) reported on the meeting, they described the tv people as" mostly white and shorter then they appear onscreen." Apparently a bit of a rivalry back then History repeating itself only some of the names have been changed to protect the profiteers. For these politico's it's all about the "Benjamin's". Nothing more, nothing less! Now top those tanks with Jet A-1, and lets go to LA for a burger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #8 May 6, 2014 quadeSome people would ignore the facts all the way to extinction. The rest of us can see the handwriting on the wall. Not that we're in immediate threat of becoming extinct over this, but a hell of a lot of the population of the planet is going to be pretty screwed over by it within the next century. Regardless of the merits of AGW (or whatever its nom du jour), even if it was removed from the equation in toto immediately, the fact that "a hell of a lot of the population of the planet is going to be pretty screwed over by it within the next century" still stands. AGW is a self-correcting issue in the grand scheme of things, and mankind has a hell of a lot more pressing issues to consider in the meantime. Real though Climate Change may (or may not) be, it is not on the short list of the most critical problems faced by our species, or the planet in general. Obama, possessed though he may be of political genius, is otherwise an imbecile. BSBD, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #9 May 6, 2014 quadeSome people would ignore the facts all the way to extinction. The rest of us can see the handwriting on the wall. Not that we're in immediate threat of becoming extinct over this, but a hell of a lot of the population of the planet is going to be pretty screwed over by it within the next century. OK...once again we'll go thru this again; even if we all agreed this problem is real we would NEVER do the things that are necessary to solve the problem, and even if we did it wouldn't matter in comparison to India and China's rate of pollution.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #10 May 6, 2014 airdvr***Some people would ignore the facts all the way to extinction. The rest of us can see the handwriting on the wall. Not that we're in immediate threat of becoming extinct over this, but a hell of a lot of the population of the planet is going to be pretty screwed over by it within the next century. OK...once again we'll go thru this again; even if we all agreed this problem is real we would NEVER do the things that are necessary to solve the problem, and even if we did it wouldn't matter in comparison to India and China's rate of pollution. So . . . fuck it? Let's ignore the entire issue? THAT's your answer? Really?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #11 May 6, 2014 >once again we'll go thru this again . . . To summarize: The planet is not warming. The planet might be warming but we didn't do it. Maybe we did do it but we can't do anything about it. Even if we did something about it some other people wouldn't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #12 May 6, 2014 Incidentally - this is good: http://fictionalaether.blogspot.co.nz/2014/05/of-free-thinkers-blind-sheep-and.htmlNever try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #13 May 6, 2014 quade******Some people would ignore the facts all the way to extinction. The rest of us can see the handwriting on the wall. Not that we're in immediate threat of becoming extinct over this, but a hell of a lot of the population of the planet is going to be pretty screwed over by it within the next century. OK...once again we'll go thru this again; even if we all agreed this problem is real we would NEVER do the things that are necessary to solve the problem, and even if we did it wouldn't matter in comparison to India and China's rate of pollution. So . . . fuck it? Let's ignore the entire issue? THAT's your answer? Really? the problem for you quade is you start from a false premise and blindly accept the lie Planetary temps change Can man affect it? Not too much"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #14 May 6, 2014 Quote Some people would ignore the facts all the way to extinction. What is the weight fraction of CO2 in the atmosphere?We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #15 May 6, 2014 StreetScoobyQuote Some people would ignore the facts all the way to extinction. What is the weight fraction of CO2 in the atmosphere? By weight about about 3,000 gigatonnes. Slightly more useful... http://climate.nasa.gov/key_indicators#co2quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #16 May 6, 2014 Quote the problem for you quade is you start from a false premise ... I see the same thing. I've yet to see quade revisit.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #17 May 6, 2014 Quote You want that in mols or what? Quote What is the weight fraction of CO2 in the atmosphere? Can I be any clearer?We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #18 May 6, 2014 Quote By weight about about 3,000 gigatonnes. IIRC, it's about 30 GT..., not 3,000.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #19 May 6, 2014 billvon>once again we'll go thru this again . . . To summarize: The planet is not warming. The planet might be warming but we didn't do it. Maybe we did do it but we can't do anything about it. Even if we did something about it some other people wouldn't. Do not forget the REAL GOP option of FUCK IT.... I will be raptured out of here any day now... let the evil doers suffer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #20 May 7, 2014 Quote IIRC, it's about 30 GT..., not 3,000. Just reread this... It's 30GT being put into the atmosphere per year... My question still stands, quade. What is the weight fraction of CO2 in the atmosphere, today? I want to see your answer in this forum.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 379 #21 May 7, 2014 QuotePlanetary temps change Can man affect it? Not too much What is your evidence for this? It seems to me this sort of statement is based on ignorance of how small the atmosphere really is. Here's an interesting graphic for you, the little pink sphere superimposed on the Earth on the right is the volume that would be occupied by the entire atmosphere if it was all at 1 atmosphere (i.e. sea level) pressure. The even smaller blue ball on the left is all the water, salt and fresh, in the world. It's interesting that people who would never dream of drinking a glass of water from a swimming pool if they knew one person had peed in there, have no problem dumping all kinds of crap into the air they breath and depend on to maintain a liveable environment. Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #22 May 7, 2014 Quote What is your evidence for this? Where is the bubble for the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere?We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #23 May 7, 2014 quade******Some people would ignore the facts all the way to extinction. The rest of us can see the handwriting on the wall. Not that we're in immediate threat of becoming extinct over this, but a hell of a lot of the population of the planet is going to be pretty screwed over by it within the next century. OK...once again we'll go thru this again; even if we all agreed this problem is real we would NEVER do the things that are necessary to solve the problem, and even if we did it wouldn't matter in comparison to India and China's rate of pollution. So . . . fuck it? Let's ignore the entire issue? THAT's your answer? Really? Well Paul, tell us what is required to end this 'looming' threat.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #24 May 7, 2014 StreetScoobyQuote IIRC, it's about 30 GT..., not 3,000. Just reread this... It's 30GT being put into the atmosphere per year... My question still stands, quade. What is the weight fraction of CO2 in the atmosphere, today? I want to see your answer in this forum. Do you honestly think you can get a binding straight answer from any of "the three"I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #25 May 7, 2014 Quote ..any of "the three" OMG, ROFLMAO... We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
