Cliven Bundy Syndrome

[PiLFy 3]

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******Not to mention how laws and user fees work.

Thought You were still cramming that picture somewhere??

I thought to you this day was sacred and should be spent with your relatives? Why are you even on-line?

Though an important holiday, I wouldn't go so far as to say that 4/20 Day is sacred. As for the Easter thing... I don't do organized religions.

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PiLFy

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"I think your point is clear.... that you are unwilling to respect the laws of our country or any of the processes that we as a people have fought for."

Then, You've entirely missed my point. I never figured you for being so dense.

First and only warning.

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[lawrocket 3]

I've said previously that the government was correct in enforcing its rights and blew it by the show of force. I don't find the force to have been at all consistent with the level of threat.

The interesting thing: not a single shot was fired. Not even by the gun-nut loonies who came from far and wide to kill feds.

I'll ask you this: is "I'll do anything" a sufficient threat for you to point a gun at somebody? If not, then why is it sufficient for the government?

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[Amazon 7]

lawrocket

I've said previously that the government was correct in enforcing its rights and blew it by the show of force. I don't find the force to have been at all consistent with the level of threat.

The interesting thing: not a single shot was fired. Not even by the gun-nut loonies who came from far and wide to kill feds.

I'll ask you this: is "I'll do anything" a sufficient threat for you to point a gun at somebody? If not, then why is it sufficient for the government?

Would you council any of your clients to ever point a gun at any LEO???

[jgoose71 0]

I thought I would read this thread to see if I could learn anything new.... And I didn't.

I can't comment on the legality of it all, but I can't believe the level of hypocrisy associated with this case.

The liberal baby boomers from the 60's made a name for themselves "sticking it to the man" with all of their acts of civil disobedience. Now that they have brain washed a generation through the colleges to vote them into power, anyone who behaves like them when they were in their youth gets labeled a terrorist. Dissenting views must get dealt with swiftly...

And you can't say the radicals of the 60's behaved more civilly. I've seen pictures of the formations of the Black panthers and the throwing of the Maultave cocktails on campuses. No one was hurt at the bundy ranch, other than some cows and turtles by federal agents... sent by liberals...

It's hard to win the hearts and minds of people and lend credibility to your argument when you display this level of hypocrisy.

"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
Life, the Universe, and Everything

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It's difficult for me to not laugh when I read you compare this guy who is attempting to dodge paying a million dollars and continue to use BLM land for free (all for the benefit of himself) to people who were fighting for the right to vote, ride the bus, go to school and use toilets; and stop an unjust war (all for the benefit of millions of others).

Bundy is not even vaguely equivalent. Your argument is laughably silly.

But you just keep thinking ol' Bundy is fighting for a noble cause instead of what he's really doing; being a massive tax dodger. That in no way proves anything this thread is about.

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[lawrocket 3]

[Reply]people who were fighting for the right to vote, ride the bus,

[jgoose71 0]

quade

It's difficult for me to not laugh when I read you compare this guy who is attempting to dodge paying a million dollars and continue to use BLM land for free (all for the benefit of himself) to people who were fighting for the right to vote, ride the bus, go to school and use toilets; and stop an unjust war (all for the benefit of millions of others).

Bundy is not even vaguely equivalent. Your argument is laughably silly.

But you just keep thinking ol' Bundy is fighting for a noble cause instead of what he's really doing; being a massive tax dodger. That in no way proves anything this thread is about.

I'm not arguing cause, legality, or anything of that nature. I know for some people that will never make a difference because they have already put on their political blinders and chose a side.

I'm only arguing tactics. His tactics are what caused Harry Reid to label him a domestic terrorist. The same tactics his kind used to use back in college. I'm sure the left right now is working on a way to make the label stick well enough to send it a drone strike.

After all, that is the tactics of the left.

"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
Life, the Universe, and Everything

[rushmc 23]

jgoose71

I thought I would read this thread to see if I could learn anything new.... And I didn't.

I can't comment on the legality of it all, but I can't believe the level of hypocrisy associated with this case.

The liberal baby boomers from the 60's made a name for themselves "sticking it to the man" with all of their acts of civil disobedience. Now that they have brain washed a generation through the colleges to vote them into power, anyone who behaves like them when they were in their youth gets labeled a terrorist. Dissenting views must get dealt with swiftly...

And you can't say the radicals of the 60's behaved more civilly. I've seen pictures of the formations of the Black panthers and the throwing of the Maultave cocktails on campuses. No one was hurt at the bundy ranch, other than some cows and turtles by federal agents... sent by liberals...

It's hard to win the hearts and minds of people and lend credibility to your argument when you display this level of hypocrisy.

they also complain loudly about Obama breaking the law regarding the ACA

NOT

Hypocrisy (the word) does not even come close to describing this level of narrow sightedness

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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jgoose71

I'm sure the left right now is working on a way to make the label stick well enough to send it a drone strike.

Tell ya what, wanna put some money down on that?

You said you were "sure." Just how sure are you? Are you $100 sure?

I'll tell you how sure I am; I will bet $100 there is NOT a drone strike at the Bundy ranch within the remainder of Obama's term in office. That sets the parameters, keeps it clean and we're able to pin the blame on the Obama if it happens. It also gives us a definitive end to the bet.

Loser pays the winner's charity of choice.

Or are you just bloviating?








(I have never lost one of these bets in the entire time I've been making them here at DZ.com. Not a single one.)

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[Coreece 190]

quade

***I'm sure the left right now is working on a way to make the label stick well enough to send it a drone strike.

Tell ya what, wanna put some money down on that?

You said you were "sure." Just how sure are you? Are you $100 sure?

I'll tell you how sure I am; I will bet $100 there is NOT a drone strike at the Bundy ranch within the remainder of Obama's term in office. That sets the parameters, keeps it clean and we're able to pin the blame on the Obama if it happens. It also give us a definitive end to the bet.

Loser pays the winner's charity of choice.

Good idea, but how would you know if there actually was a drone attack?

quade

Loser pays the winner's charity of choice.

So what would be your charity of choice, just curious...

quade

(I have never lost one of these bets in the entire time I've been making them here at DZ.com. Not a single one.)

You actually get takers?

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

[rehmwa 2]

masterrig

In reading Lawrocket's post, it brought to mind that quote from an old Bill Cosby record; "Why is There Air?"

pffft....any phys ed major can tell you that

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[masterrig 1]

rehmwa

***In reading Lawrocket's post, it brought to mind that quote from an old Bill Cosby record; "Why is There Air?"

pffft....any phys ed major can tell you that

You bet! Have you ever heard that album? It's pretty funny.


Chuck

[rehmwa 2]

masterrig

******In reading Lawrocket's post, it brought to mind that quote from an old Bill Cosby record; "Why is There Air?"

pffft....any phys ed major can tell you that

You bet! Have you ever heard that album? It's pretty funny.


Chuck

I have 4 albums from that period. Plus the horrible one where he sings (Hooray for the Salvation Army Band - it's so bad). The original LPs and we also put them on CDs to make sure I don't lose them. I'm pretty sure they are the following:

Why is there Air
Wonderfulness
I Started Out as a Child
Revenge

One of them is in the '200 mph' sleeve, but it's not

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[masterrig 1]

rehmwa

*********In reading Lawrocket's post, it brought to mind that quote from an old Bill Cosby record; "Why is There Air?"

pffft....any phys ed major can tell you that

You bet! Have you ever heard that album? It's pretty funny.
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I never heard the one of him singing. That was the era of Shelly Berman, Bob Newhart, Rusty Warren and others.


Chuck
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I have 4 albums from that period. Plus the horrible one where he sings (Hooray for the Salvation Army Band - it's so bad). The original LPs and we also put them on CDs to make sure I don't lose them. I'm pretty sure they are the following:

Why is there Air
Wonderfulness
I Started Out as a Child
Revenge

One of them is in the '200 mph' sleeve, but it's not

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Coreece

Good idea, but how would you know if there actually was a drone attack?

Are you suggesting that the Bundy ranch, with all the attention it has gotten over the last few weeks, could be bombed via drone strike and somehow nobody would notice?

Um, okay . . . that's a little bit crazy town.

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So what would be your charity of choice, just curious...

Haven't decided. It would probably be something vaguely ironic like desert tortoise conservation, but like I said, hadn't really given it much thought. Doubt I'd need to.

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You actually get takers?

Yep. I don't even make the offer very often because I pretty much only bet on sure things, but when I do, I have gotten a few takers. Always hilarious.

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[Coreece 190]

quade

***Good idea, but how would you know if there actually was a drone attack?

Are you suggesting that the Bundy ranch, with all the attention it has gotten over the last few weeks, could be bombed via drone strike and somehow nobody would notice?

Um, okay . . . that's a little bit crazy town.

oh, I was thinking of the more subtle uses for drones. Actually bombing them didn't even come to mind....

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

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Coreece

******Good idea, but how would you know if there actually was a drone attack?

Are you suggesting that the Bundy ranch, with all the attention it has gotten over the last few weeks, could be bombed via drone strike and somehow nobody would notice?

Um, okay . . . that's a little bit crazy town.

oh, I was thinking of the more subtle uses for drones. Actually bombing them didn't even come to mind....

Um, okay, in your mind (as opposed to the rest of the world) what constitutes a "drone attack."

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The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[masterrig 1]

Amazon

***I've said previously that the government was correct in enforcing its rights and blew it by the show of force. I don't find the force to have been at all consistent with the level of threat.

The interesting thing: not a single shot was fired. Not even by the gun-nut loonies who came from far and wide to kill feds.

I'll ask you this: is "I'll do anything" a sufficient threat for you to point a gun at somebody? If not, then why is it sufficient for the government?

Would you council any of your clients to ever point a gun at any LEO???

I've always understood, you don't take a knife to a gunfight.


Chuck

[Coreece 190]

quade

Um, okay, in your mind (as opposed to the rest of the world) what constitutes a "drone attack."

Excuse me, I'm not used to thinking in terms of the typical negative connotations associated with the word "drone."

Drones have come along way and are now available for private use. They can now even fit in the palm of your hand.

We use them for real estate purposes and scientific research among other things.

But to answer your question, I was thinking more of surveillance and exposing vulnerabilities that can be used against someone in any number of ways.

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

[Amazon 7]

Coreece

***Um, okay, in your mind (as opposed to the rest of the world) what constitutes a "drone attack."

Excuse me, I'm not used to thinking in terms of the typical negative connotations associated with the word "drone."

Drones have come along way and are now available for private use. They can now even fit in the palm of your hand.

We use them for real estate purposes and scientific research among other things.

But to answer your question, I was thinking more of surveillance and exposing vulnerabilities that can be used against someone in any number of ways.

Surveillance does not equal ATTACK.

Words have meanings.

[Coreece 190]

Amazon

******Um, okay, in your mind (as opposed to the rest of the world) what constitutes a "drone attack."

Excuse me, I'm not used to thinking in terms of the typical negative connotations associated with the word "drone."

Drones have come along way and are now available for private use. They can now even fit in the palm of your hand.

We use them for real estate purposes and scientific research among other things.

But to answer your question, I was thinking more of surveillance and exposing vulnerabilities that can be used against someone in any number of ways.

Surveillance does not equal ATTACK.

Words have meanings.

So if I were to use a drone to spy on you and expose your dirty little secret, you wouldn't consider that an attack on your privacy?

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

[normiss 896]

IIRC, that issue has already been decided in re: drones for surveillance.

More so with a warrant, even more so with the Feds.

BOHICA

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Coreece

*********Um, okay, in your mind (as opposed to the rest of the world) what constitutes a "drone attack."

Excuse me, I'm not used to thinking in terms of the typical negative connotations associated with the word "drone."

Drones have come along way and are now available for private use. They can now even fit in the palm of your hand.

We use them for real estate purposes and scientific research among other things.

But to answer your question, I was thinking more of surveillance and exposing vulnerabilities that can be used against someone in any number of ways.

Surveillance does not equal ATTACK.

Words have meanings.

So if I were to use a drone to spy on you and expose your dirty little secret, you wouldn't consider that an attack on your privacy?

They can spy on me to their hearts content, there are already quite detailed sat photos available for my property... but sorry dear.. I do not participate in "dirty little secrets" . My love of boating is quite evident from the sat photos
The oft used GOP phrase comes to mind " if you are not doing anything wrong you have nothing to fear"

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Coreece

***Um, okay, in your mind (as opposed to the rest of the world) what constitutes a "drone attack."

Excuse me, I'm not used to thinking in terms of the typical negative connotations associated with the word "drone."

Drones have come along way and are now available for private use. They can now even fit in the palm of your hand.

We use them for real estate purposes and scientific research among other things.

But to answer your question, I was thinking more of surveillance and exposing vulnerabilities that can be used against someone in any number of ways.

It's okay, buddy. You don't have to use term "drone attack" the same way everyone else in the world does, but the rest of the world understands the term to mean "bomb." This is certainly the meaning of the term used in relationship to Pakistan and over this weekend in Yemen.

This stems from the general use of the term "attack" in relationship to the function of military aircraft. It could also mean, "strafe" with gunfire, but to my knowledge no US drones have guns mounted on them.

Surveillance does not equal attack.

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