rushmc 23 #1 April 2, 2014 QuoteThe Environmental Protection Agency has been conducting dangerous experiments on humans over the past few years in order to justify more onerous clean air regulations. The agency conducted tests on people with health issues and the elderly, exposing them to high levels of potentially lethal pollutants, without disclosing the risks of cancer and death, according to a newly released government report. the report http://www.scribd.com/doc/215909101/EPA-Human-Study-Subjects Government good huh....."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #2 April 2, 2014 [heavy, bored sarcasm] Nice thread title. Excellent summary of the report's contents. [/heavy, bored sarcasm] - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #3 April 2, 2014 DanG [heavy, bored sarcasm] Nice thread title. Excellent summary of the report's contents. [/heavy, bored sarcasm] See the quotes? See the report? Do you care? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #4 April 2, 2014 QuoteSee the quotes? See the report? Do you care? I saw the report you linked. What was inside the quotes you apparently made up yourself. Do I care? Not really. The report said that the EPA followed the law, but that could adjust their policies to do a better job. The whole "Obama admin's agenda" is just plain, unadulterated bullshit. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #5 April 2, 2014 rushmc Quote The Environmental Protection Agency has been conducting dangerous experiments on humans over the past few years in order to justify more onerous clean air regulations. The agency conducted tests on people with health issues and the elderly, exposing them to high levels of potentially lethal pollutants, without disclosing the risks of cancer and death, according to a newly released government report. the report http://www.scribd.com/doc/215909101/EPA-Human-Study-Subjects Government good huh..... Did you actually READ the report ???? Improvements to EPA Policies and Guidance Could Enhance Protection of Human Study Subjects What We Found The EPA followed applicable regulations when it exposed 81 human study subjects to concentrated airborne particles or diesel exhaust emissions in five EPA studies conducted during 2010 and 2011. However, we identified improvements that could be made to the EPA’s policies and guidance to enhance protection of study subjects. The EPA obtained approval to conduct the five human research studies, including approval from a biomedical Institutional Review Board (IRB) and the EPA Human Studies Research Review Official (HSRRO). However, the EPA’s policies and guidance do not address when HSRRO approval is needed for significant study modifications. Developing guidance for when HSRRO must approve significant modifications would ensure their independent review. The EPA obtained informed consent from the 81 human study subjects before exposing them to pollutants. While the consent forms met the requirements of 40 CFR Part 26, we found that exposure risks were not always consistently represented. Further, the EPA did not include information on long-term cancer risks in its diesel exhaust studies’ consent forms. An EPA manager considered these long-term risks minimal for short-term study exposures. We believe presenting consistent information about risks further ensures that study subjects can make the most informed choice about participating in a study. The EPA addressed six adverse events during its studies, reported them to the IRB, and provided clinical follow-up after the events. While the clinical follow-up appeared to be reasonable, the EPA’s policies, guidance and consent forms do not establish the EPA’s clinical follow-up responsibilities. According to EPA managers, the agency uses the latest University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill (UNC) IRB’s adverse event definitions and reporting timeframes to respond to adverse events. However, the agency’s guidance provides different definitions and reporting timeframes and does not state that the EPA has adopted the UNC-IRB definitions and timeframes. Using EPA’s guidance, the EPA reported two of the six adverse events later than required and did not report two other events to IRB. Recommendations and Planned Corrective Actions We recommend that the EPA establish procedures for obtaining HSRRO approval of significant study modifications, ensure consent forms consistently address pollutant risks, update its guidance to include the EPA’s clinical follow-up responsibilities, and address a number of other recommendations. The EPA concurred with all recommendations and provided planned corrective actions and completion dates that meet the intent of the recommendations. All recommendations have been resolved. U.S. Environmental Protection Agency Office of Inspector General At a Glance The EPA can enhance its human studies by improving how it obtains approval for studies; how it communicates risk to people who participate in EPA studies; and how it addresses adverse events in its guidance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #6 April 2, 2014 Oops I skipped one of the two links My bad http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/02/report-epa-tested-deadly-pollutants-on-humans-to-push-obama-admins-agenda/ so you see I did not make anything up"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #7 April 2, 2014 Yeah, dailycaller. Too bad you linked the actual paper, so people could read it without spin. So, have you read it yet? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #8 April 2, 2014 DanGYeah, dailycaller. Too bad you linked the actual paper, so people could read it without spin. So, have you read it yet? I actually read about this and posted links about what the EPA was doing here over a year ago And what is too bad about being honest about the source? I know the rules are different for some here but I dont mind and most the time those that disagree slam the source regardless of who it is So in the end, it really does not matter now does it....."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #9 April 2, 2014 Quoteand most the time those that disagree slam the source regardless of who it is So in the end, it really does not matter now does it..... In this case it's obvious your source is biased. The actual report doesn't say what your sources claims. Do you disagree? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #10 April 2, 2014 I would tend to think a few here are better with the "unofficial" testing on human beings with the effluent of power plants that are sent into the air daily... and the coal ash and waste that is washing down rivers.. or the same stuff being used on roads to fight the ice that is being washed into fresh water drainages... or the stacks of processed crap from the tar sands that is stack in large cities that is blowing in the wind into cities. The power must produce wealth.. all else is ancillary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #11 April 3, 2014 More QuoteThe Environmental Protection Agency is under fire for exposing children to pollution as part of an experiment at the University of Southern California. This information is coming to light from the website junkscience.com after an investigation from the EPA's Office of the Inspector General stated in a recent report that the EPA’s pollution experiments on older people, done at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, were more harmful to the subjects than what the EPA presented. Original report http://junksciencecom.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/diesel-exhaust-in-children-at-usc-2005-report-121412-copy.pdf Heavily edited report http://junksciencecom.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/2005-annual-report-pollution-enhanced-allergic-inflammation-and-phase-ii-enzymes-research-project-database-ncer-ord-us-epa-022413-copy.pdf"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #12 April 4, 2014 http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/03/This-Is-How-The-EPA-Finds-People-For-Pollution-Exposure-Experiments Quote Are you over weight and out of shape?” asked one ad. “The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency is seeking Older Adults With Asthma,” said another. The federal government wasn't selling diet pills, and it wasn't seeking victims for a class action suit – it was soliciting human subjects for experiments that would expose them to air pollution. The EPA is under fire this week after an Inspector General investigation found the agency exposed people to harmful chemicals without adequately disclosing the risks involved. Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA), ranking member of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, told Breitbart News on Thursday he found the IG’s report “disturbing.” Even Waxman "nose" this is bs "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 380 #13 April 4, 2014 So let's see if I understand this correctly: EPA: We need to establish standards for safe levels of exposure to diesel exhaust and fine particulates. Industry: You have no data to prove inhaling fine particulates and diesel exhaust is harmful. Why do you want to regulate something you can't prove is harmful? You must hate America! EPA: OK we'll get data. Industry: The EPA is experimenting on people!! Obama ordered the EPA to experiment on babies! This administration wants to kill unsuspecting Americans! Sort of a heads-we-win, tails-you-lose proposition for the gas industry. However, it's not surprising that, once again, you swallow hook, line, and sinker the propaganda of your corporate employer. Must keep those paychecks rolling, you know. Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites