When is a deadline really a deadline?

[airdvr 210]

Obamacare applicants to get more deadline flexibility
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/25/politics/obamacare-signup-deadline/

Once again King Barry shows the rules don't apply when he is driving the bus. I'm wondering if April 15th really means April 15th.

Please don't dent the planet.

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airdvr

Obamacare applicants to get more deadline flexibility
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/25/politics/obamacare-signup-deadline/

Once again King Barry shows the rules don't apply when he is driving the bus. I'm wondering if April 15th really means April 15th.

Only if you owe taxes, otherwise it is January still.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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The same idea of a deadline which the entire US government seems to have had in passing a budget for the last 5 years.

Both parties are as guilty as each other when deadlines are involved. If the government were run like private industry, every politician would have been fired long ago, or at the very least learnt the meaning of the phrase 'manage expectations'....

[kelpdiver 2]

airdvr

Obamacare applicants to get more deadline flexibility
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/25/politics/obamacare-signup-deadline/

Once again King Barry shows the rules don't apply when he is driving the bus. I'm wondering if April 15th really means April 15th.

Let's be honest - this complaint is really about him and not the ACA which you find unacceptable regardless of new data.

When the goal is to get enrollment, rather than find reasons to penalize people, extensions are a quite reasonable response to a surge at the deadline. You wouldn't announce extend it 6 months ago - people naturally delay their response to the same 11th hour. And yet, if your capacity to handle all the late callers is inadequate, it's not appropriate to say, tough shit.

Last year's on tax day, California's electronic system basically melted down. Accepting their responsibility, the web site flashed an acknowledgement along with a statement that payments/filings submitted in the day after the deadline would still be considered timely.

[airdvr 210]

kelpdiver

***Obamacare applicants to get more deadline flexibility
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/25/politics/obamacare-signup-deadline/

Once again King Barry shows the rules don't apply when he is driving the bus. I'm wondering if April 15th really means April 15th.

Let's be honest - this complaint is really about him and not the ACA which you find unacceptable regardless of new data.

When the goal is to get enrollment, rather than find reasons to penalize people, extensions are a quite reasonable response to a surge at the deadline. You wouldn't announce extend it 6 months ago - people naturally delay their response to the same 11th hour. And yet, if your capacity to handle all the late callers is inadequate, it's not appropriate to say, tough shit.

Last year's on tax day, California's electronic system basically melted down. Accepting their responsibility, the web site flashed an acknowledgement along with a statement that payments/filings submitted in the day after the deadline would still be considered timely.

If it was only that simple. This is playing politics with ACA once again and simply changing the law because it doesn't suit him. Lack of credibility in the Oval Office will lead to all kinds of nasty things.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[kelpdiver 2]

airdvr

If it was only that simple. This is playing politics with ACA once again and simply changing the law because it doesn't suit him. Lack of credibility in the Oval Office will lead to all kinds of nasty things.

how is moving this deadline 3 weeks "changing the law?" Did the law have the original deadline in it?

As I said, I'd take the whining about imperial oversight a bit more seriously if the GOP would participate in ACA lawmaking in any manner beyond trying to repeal it.

[rushmc 23]

It is a dead line ONLY when a political future is NOT affected

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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kelpdiver

***Obamacare applicants to get more deadline flexibility
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/25/politics/obamacare-signup-deadline/

Once again King Barry shows the rules don't apply when he is driving the bus. I'm wondering if April 15th really means April 15th.

Let's be honest - this complaint is really about him and not the ACA which you find unacceptable regardless of new data.

When the goal is to get enrollment, rather than find reasons to penalize people, extensions are a quite reasonable response to a surge at the deadline. You wouldn't announce extend it 6 months ago - people naturally delay their response to the same 11th hour. And yet, if your capacity to handle all the late callers is inadequate, it's not appropriate to say, tough shit.

Last year's on tax day, California's electronic system basically melted down. Accepting their responsibility, the web site flashed an acknowledgement along with a statement that payments/filings submitted in the day after the deadline would still be considered timely.

the compasion in your arguement makes sense however, the President does NOT have the power (under the law) to chance law
This is what this is about

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

kelpdiver

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If it was only that simple. This is playing politics with ACA once again and simply changing the law because it doesn't suit him. Lack of credibility in the Oval Office will lead to all kinds of nasty things.

how is moving this deadline 3 weeks "changing the law?" Did the law have the original deadline in it?

As I said, I'd take the whining about imperial oversight a bit more seriously if the GOP would participate in ACA lawmaking in any manner beyond trying to repeal it.

the law contains specific target dates

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rwieder 0]

I'll be a happy camper when BHO is at his deadline soon. He hasn't done anything but screw things up way worse than GB Jr. ever did. Any SkyDiver would be a better President than BHO ever has been, which is what he is, a "has been" and a "Lame Duck" president.

Best-
Richard

[airdvr 210]

kelpdiver

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If it was only that simple. This is playing politics with ACA once again and simply changing the law because it doesn't suit him. Lack of credibility in the Oval Office will lead to all kinds of nasty things.

how is moving this deadline 3 weeks "changing the law?" Did the law have the original deadline in it?

As I said, I'd take the whining about imperial oversight a bit more seriously if the GOP would participate in ACA lawmaking in any manner beyond trying to repeal it.

I believe the changes to this law keep coming in an attempt to put lipstick on a pig. ACA is not working like the government hoped it would and it won't work until years 2 and 3 when the penalties for not having insurance get serious. Hmmm...what happens politically in 2015 and 16? It's rationalization that keeping the open enrollment for a few more days hoping it will somehow work out.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[rushmc 23]

airdvr

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If it was only that simple. This is playing politics with ACA once again and simply changing the law because it doesn't suit him. Lack of credibility in the Oval Office will lead to all kinds of nasty things.

how is moving this deadline 3 weeks "changing the law?" Did the law have the original deadline in it?

As I said, I'd take the whining about imperial oversight a bit more seriously if the GOP would participate in ACA lawmaking in any manner beyond trying to repeal it.

I believe the changes to this law keep coming in an attempt to put lipstick on a pig. ACA is not working like the government hoped it would and it won't work until years 2 and 3 when the penalties for not having insurance get serious. Hmmm...what happens politically in 2015 and 16? It's rationalization that keeping the open enrollment for a few more days hoping it will somehow work out.

I think it is working exactly how they knew it would. Cause the end goal of this was to get the US to single payer
The problem is the issues came to light much earlier than they planned

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Andy9o8 2]

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When is a deadline really a deadline?

When my dad said it was. End of story.

[DanG 1]

Yeah, like when that Obama bastard changed the deadlines for Medicare Part B!

Oh wait, that was someone else.

- Dan G

[billvon 3,121]

>Yeah, like when that Obama bastard changed the deadlines for Medicare Part B!

That's different. That was a prudent delay to help Americans.

[okalb 104]

Say it isn't so!

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/28/us/politics/white-house-says-6-million-have-enrolled-for-health-insurance.html?smid=fb-share&_r=0

Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana

[airdvr 210]

okalb

Say it isn't so!

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/28/us/politics/white-house-says-6-million-have-enrolled-for-health-insurance.html?smid=fb-share&_r=0

That's excellent. Minus the 4 million whose policies were abolished that's a net gain of 2 million. Wow...only 44 million more to go.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

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billvon

>Yeah, like when that Obama bastard changed the deadlines for Medicare Part B!

That's different. That was a prudent delay to help Americans.

And how many times has implementation of this law been delayed?

March 25: Final enrollment deadline extended. The March 31 deadline — the end of enrollment for 2014 — will be loosened for people with special sign-up circumstances.

March 14: High-risk pools extended. The special, temporary coverage for people with serious pre-existing conditions — which was supposed to last only until the health insurance exchanges were in place — was extended a third time for another month.

Feb. 10: Employer mandate delayed. This time, businesses with between 50 and 100 workers were given until 2016 to offer coverage, and the mandate will be phased in for employers with more than 100 workers.

Jan. 14: High-risk pools extended. The high-risk insurance pools, which originally had been slated to close Jan. 1, had already been extended once.

Dec. 24: Enrollment deadline extended. In a message on HealthCare.gov, customers were told they could get help finishing their Jan. 1 applications if they were already in line on Dec. 24.

Dec. 12: Enrollment deadline extended. Customers on the federal enrollment website were given nearly two more weeks to sign up for coverage effective Jan. 1.

Nov. 27: Small Business Health Options Program (known as SHOP) delayed. Online enrollment for the federal health insurance exchanges for small businesses was delayed

Nov. 21: Open enrollment delayed for 2015. The administration pushed back next year’s enrollment season by a month.

July 2: Employer mandate delayed. The administration declared that it wouldn’t enforce the fines in 2014 for businesses with more than 50 full-time workers who don’t offer health coverage. The fines were pushed back to 2015.

Nov. 15, 2012: Exchange deadline delayed. The Department of Health and Human Services gave states an extra month to decide whether they would set up their own health insurance exchanges — a decision it announced just one day before the original deadline.

I understand you don't want to be critical of your hero but even you have to wonder if this is truly a law or just some wild idea someone had once.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[billvon 3,121]

>> That was a prudent delay to help Americans.

>And how many times has implementation of this law been delayed?

Exactly. THIS delay of a healthcare bill implementation is a crass political power grab to try to implement death panels and . . . (wait, let me check, this is still Obamacare we're talking about) . . . and kill your grandma. Totally unlike the delays in that other healthcare bill, which were done by an American hero to save your grandma.