Conservatives vs Truth

[Amazon 7]

Things that make you go hmmmmm

Conservatives.. famous for fair and balanced information...
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/02/evil-koch-brothers-rank-59-in-political-donations-behind-18-different-unions/

Truth
http://www.republicreport.org/2014/unions-koch/

The Wall Street Journal’s Kimberley Strassel either has no understanding of campaign finance, or is willfully misleading her readers. In either case, her column today about the Koch brothers’ political spending — which parrots a meme that has bounced around conservative blogs and websites like a bad chain e-mail — gets the facts about Koch spending versus union spending completely wrong. - See more at: http://www.republicreport.org/2014/unions-koch/#sthash.j3ApL0DU.dpuf

In her column, “The Really Big Money? Not the Kochs,” Strassel cites a Center for Responsive Politics list to claim that unions “collectively spent $620,873,623 more than Koch Industries” on political races. Of course, if you actually visit this page on the CRP website, the list runs below a disclaimer noting that it does not include certain Super PAC spending or most undisclosed dark money spending, the preferred route for the Koch brothers for decades. In fact, the CRP site notes that union spending might appear inflated since unions traditional PAC spending is coupled with outside Super PAC spending. For the purposes of this chart, union spending is inflated compared to the giving of companies like Koch or Super PAC donors like Sheldon Adelson. For the last election, Koch PAC spent $4.9 million in disclosed contributions (figures that appear on the chart referenced by Strassel). But they also spent over $407 million on undisclosed campaign entities, which does not show up in the CRP chart. Republic Report broke down the figures for the last election and found that Koch groups alone spent more than double the combined political spending (including to undisclosed group) for the top ten unions combined. The chart includes union spending on dark money Democratic groups and Koch spending on dark money groups like Americans for Prosperity. See below: - See more at: http://www.republicreport.org/2014/unions-koch/#sthash.j3ApL0DU.dpuf

[winsor 236]

My kingdom for a kill file.

[Amazon 7]

winsor

My kingdom for a kill file.

Awww poor thing.

[winsor 236]

Amazon

***My kingdom for a kill file.

Awww poor thing.

Please get above the third grade level (with apologies to third graders everywhere).

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winsor

******My kingdom for a kill file.

Awww poor thing.

Please get above the third grade level (with apologies to third graders everywhere).

You are just so cute with your attempts at personal attacks...bless your little heart.

[winsor 236]

Amazon

*********My kingdom for a kill file.

Awww poor thing.

Please get above the third grade level (with apologies to third graders everywhere).

You are just so cute with your attempts at personal attacks...bless your little heart.

I give you credit for the capacity to communicate without a surfeit of malevolence.

I look forward to your doing something to justify that faith.

[Amazon 7]

I do believe this is supposed to be a discussion forum. Not http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArgMK2kAjzw

"Where seldom is heard a discouraging word...and the sky is not clouded all day."

I know that might be distressing.. but oh well its life

[turtlespeed 226]

Amazon

I do believe this is supposed to be a discussion forum. Not http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArgMK2kAjzw

"Where seldom is heard a discouraging word...and the sky is not clouded all day."

I know that might be distressing.. but oh well its life

Then find and post something worth the effort of discussing besides your hate of Bush, which doesn't even qualify as "worth the effort".

You are intelligent. I know this because I have met you. You KNOW, and we KNOW you can do better.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[regulator 0]

You KNOW, and we KNOW you can do better.

Meh.

I'm not going to hold my breath or anything.

[turtlespeed 226]

regulator

You KNOW, and we KNOW you can do better.

Meh.

I'm not going to hold my breath or anything.

It's true. Jeanne is very smart, and in Person a completely different person. It's different here. i think she uses it to vent frustration, it's just a bit bullyish when she does.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[lawrocket 3]

Again, I'm thinking of Judy Garland who could not speak a paragraph without raging about Sid Luft.

Next thing you know, the Koch brothers will be the authors of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion or whatever "vast right wing conspiracy" is next up.

Mind you, the unions have generally been defensive of the Koch brothers because they worked with each other. And , of course, the Kochs spend their own money. As opposed to unions...

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[brenthutch 444]

I think we need to cut Amazon some slack, she must be superior because she clearly has one more chromosome than the rest of us.

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turtlespeed

***I do believe this is supposed to be a discussion forum. Not http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArgMK2kAjzw

"Where seldom is heard a discouraging word...and the sky is not clouded all day."

I know that might be distressing.. but oh well its life

Then find and post something worth the effort of discussing besides your hate of Bush, which doesn't even qualify as "worth the effort".

You are intelligent. I know this because I have met you. You KNOW, and we KNOW you can do better.

And yall's hatred of the black guy and the incessant silly negro threads.. come on...

I know you can do better Clint

A couple others.. not so much

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brenthutch

I think we need to cut Amazon some slack, she must be superior because she clearly has one more chromosome than the rest of us.

Dude, seriously? Surely you can show more class than that.

You are playing chicken with a planet - you can't dodge and planets don't blink. Act accordingly.

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lawrocket

Again, I'm thinking of Judy Garland who could not speak a paragraph without raging about Sid Luft.

Next thing you know, the Koch brothers will be the authors of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion or whatever "vast right wing conspiracy" is next up.

Mind you, the unions have generally been defensive of the Koch brothers because they worked with each other. And , of course, the Kochs spend their own money. As opposed to unions...

Jerry
Do you really feel that deep need to denigrate me that way??

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brenthutch

I think we need to cut Amazon some slack, she must be superior because she clearly has one more chromosome than the rest of us.

Preserved for posterity

Seriously..

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-does-it-mean-to-have-an-extra-chromosome.htm

[lawrocket 3]

Why is it denigration? Judy Garland hated Sid Luft and everybody knew it because it was all she'd talk about.

You hate the Koch brothers. Everybody knows it because you've said it 100 times that you hate them. Is there another subject beside the Koch brothers and all the bad they do?

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[kelpdiver 2]

winsor

My kingdom for a kill file.

Now let's review for a second.

You actively clicked on a threat titled "Conservatives vs Truth" with a clear author of Amazon. This isn't a case of her posting/baiting in someone else's thread. You knew exactly what you're were getting into. You didn't need a kill file to avoid this post, and of course you didn't need to reply (repeatedly) to it.

And as for content, it was pretty factual and relevant, both by SC standard's and her's, which can be pretty far on the ranting side. Superpac funding secrecy is a serious flaw - I don't favor restrictions on speech (money) as a general rule, but I do support transparency. It's not by accident that Colbert got a Peabody for his Superpac, Americans for a Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow.

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lawrocket

Why is it denigration? Judy Garland hated Sid Luft and everybody knew it because it was all she'd talk about.

You hate the Koch brothers. Everybody knows it because you've said it 100 times that you hate them. Is there another subject beside the Koch brothers and all the bad they do?

But you my dear trot out this tactic.. and yes that is what it is, every time I bring up a group of people that are harming so many in America.. I was never married to one of them.. I am not trying to divorce one of them and they did not abuse me personally. I also do not drink or drug like she did and I might add so many here do with glee. All of those things were pertinent to Judy and Sid Luft ..and it is disingenuous to try to paint me with that sort of behavior.

Do you believe the Koch brothers have been good for America.. or the thousands of Americans who have been harmed by their pollution???

Do you worship oligarchs as a matter of course??

[lawrocket 3]

I'm indifferent about the Koch brothers. I'm pretty much indifferent about anybody who isn't trying to make me do anything against my will.

But you are so focused on the Koch brothers that I'm astounded.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

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lawrocket

I'm indifferent about the Koch brothers. I'm pretty much indifferent about anybody who isn't trying to make me do anything against my will.

But you are so focused on the Koch brothers that I'm astounded.

So you have nothing to add to the discussion and want to play the player and not the topic... a topic about the campaign funding that so many here have claimed erroneous numbers overwhelmingly to unions when that is not the case.

[billvon 3,132]

Enough with the one liners.

[lawrocket 3]

[Reply]and want to play the player and not the topic

[kallend 2,175]

lawrocket

I'm indifferent about the Koch brothers. I'm pretty much indifferent about anybody who isn't trying to make me do anything against my will.

How do you feel about people trying to prevent you (or others) from doing stuff that you think you should be able to do?

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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kallend

How do you feel about people trying to prevent you (or others) from doing stuff that you think you should be able to do?

like - own property, shoot guns, decide what type of lightbulb I want to buy, decide for myself who gets my charity dollars, invest my retirement money how I want to?

or like - kill that guy, take his wallet, dance with redheads, jump a tiny canopy, eat too much fatty foods?

or like - not work but still have a nice house, keep potheads out of my workplace and fun zones, drive drunk?


I think we'll need a few categories: I suggest 3 at least

1 - No problem, as long as they do it to everyone
2 - Absolutely not
3 - Meh

and I know a few here that would like to add

4 - not me, but everyone else

and a nod to the radicals

5 - not people that think like me, but all those other heretics

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants