rushmc 23 #1 January 29, 2014 QuoteU.N. Resolution 2117 The U.N. Resolution 2117 lists 21 points dealing with firearms control, but perhaps of most interest is point number 11: “CALLS FOR MEMBER STATES TO SUPPORT WEAPONS COLLECTION, DISARMAMENT ---” 53-46 vote - The U.S. Senate voted against the U.N. resolution. This is that brief, glorious moment in history when everyone stands around...reloading. Now, Which 46 Senators Voted to Destroy Us? Well, let their names become known !! See below . If you vote in one of the states listed with these 46 “legis..traitors”… vote against them. In a 53-46 vote, the Senate narrowly passed a measure that will stop the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty. The Statement of Purpose from the Bill reads: "To uphold Second Amendment rights and prevent the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty." The U.N. Small Arms Treaty, which has been championed by the Obama Administration, would have effectively placed a global ban on the import and export of small firearms. The ban would have affected all private gun owners in the U.S. and had language that would have implemented aninternational gun registry, now get this, on all private guns and ammo. Astonishingly, 46 out of our 100 United States Senators were willing to give away our Constitutional rights to a foreign power. Here are the 46 senators who voted to give your rights to the U.N. Baldwin (D-WI) Baucus (D-MT) Bennett (D-CO) Blumenthal (D-CT) Boxer (D-CA) Brown (D-OH) Cantwell (D-WA) Cardin (D-MD) Carper (D-DE) Casey (D-PA) Coons (D-DE) Cowan (D-MA) Durbin (D-IL)j Feinstein (D-CA) Franken (D-MN) Gillibrand (D-NY) Harkin (D-IA) Hirono (D-HI) Johnson (D-SD) Kaine (D-VA) King (I-ME) Klobuchar (D-MN) Landrieu (D-LA) Leahy (D-VT) Levin (D-MI) McCaskill (D-MO) Menendez (D-NJ) Merkley (D-OR) Mikulski (D-MD) Murphy (D-CT) Murray (D-WA) Nelson (D-FL) Reed (D-RI) Reid (D-NV) Rockefeller (D-WV) Sanders (I-VT) Schatz (D-HI) Schumer (D-NY) Shaheen (D-NH) Stabenow (D-MI) Udall (D-CO) Udall (D-NM) Warner (D-VA) Warren (D-MA) Whitehouse (D-RI) Wyden (D-OR) "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #2 January 29, 2014 Actual text of number 11: Quote“11. Calls for Member States to support weapons collection, disarmament, demobilization and reintegration of ex-combatants, as well as physical security and stockpile management programmes by United Nations peacekeeping operations where so mandated; It's about stabilization of war torn regions, not domestic arms collection. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #3 January 29, 2014 DanGActual text of number 11: Quote“11. Calls for Member States to support weapons collection, disarmament, demobilization and reintegration of ex-combatants, as well as physical security and stockpile management programmes by United Nations peacekeeping operations where so mandated; It's about stabilization of war torn regions, not domestic arms collection. Sorry We should never even consider this "treaty" for ratification in the US Obama should have never have signed on but he did"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #4 January 29, 2014 No, they really didn't. Did you stop to wonder why the guy that wrote that email only quoted half a sentence from one paragraph of an entire resolution?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #5 January 29, 2014 jakeeNo, they really didn't. Did you stop to wonder why the guy that wrote that email only quoted half a sentence from one paragraph of an entire resolution? I have known about this whole thing for many weeks and yes they did"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #6 January 29, 2014 QuoteWe should never even consider this "treaty" for ratification in the US Why not?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #7 January 29, 2014 Quoteand yes they did In what way? How does calling for a crackdown on forms of international arms trading that are already illegal affect the rights of US citizens?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #8 January 29, 2014 jakee Quote We should never even consider this "treaty" for ratification in the US Why not? Your joking but, incase ignorance is bliss Let me ask you why the US should enter into this treaty? Why did a few dems and independants cross over and vote against it? What are all those voting for it know gun control dems?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #9 January 29, 2014 rushmc***No, they really didn't. Did you stop to wonder why the guy that wrote that email only quoted half a sentence from one paragraph of an entire resolution? I have known about this whole thing for many weeks and yes they did Why did you choose to post a misleading incomplete portion of the text? Why do you hate the people who read your posts?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #10 January 29, 2014 jakeeQuoteand yes they did In what way? How does calling for a crackdown on forms of international arms trading that are already illegal affect the rights of US citizens? The UN views all countries as needing arms confiscation and arms control"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #11 January 29, 2014 kallend ******No, they really didn't. Did you stop to wonder why the guy that wrote that email only quoted half a sentence from one paragraph of an entire resolution? I have known about this whole thing for many weeks and yes they did Why did you chose to post a misleading incomplete portion of the text? To get gun banners (like you) panties in a wad See It works "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #12 January 29, 2014 QuoteLet me ask you No, until you've stated your case I won't let you. You started this thread, and I've asked you to explain your opinion. Why shouldn't the US sign on?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #13 January 29, 2014 And the intent of 11 is very clear"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #14 January 29, 2014 jakeeQuoteLet me ask you No, until you've stated your case I won't let you. You started this thread, and I've asked you to explain your opinion. Why shouldn't the US sign on? the intent of this treaty is a start to remove guns from the hands of private citizens That goes against the US Constitution It does not single out any country for implimentation nor does it exempt any Now, you answer"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #15 January 29, 2014 rushmc***Quoteand yes they did In what way? How does calling for a crackdown on forms of international arms trading that are already illegal affect the rights of US citizens? The UN views all countries as needing arms confiscation and arms control First paragraph of the resolution: “Emphasizing that the right of individual and collective self-defence recognized in Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations and the legitimate security demands of all countries should be fully taken into account, and recognizing that small arms and light weapons are traded, manufactured and retained by States for legitimate security, sporting and commercial considerations". How does calling for a crackdown on forms of international arms trading that are already illegal affect the rights of US citizens?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #16 January 29, 2014 Quotethe intent of this treaty is a start to remove guns from the hands of private citizens That goes against the US Constitution It does not single out any country for implimentation nor does it exempt any Try reading the actual text, not some right wing spittle besotted web site's version. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #17 January 29, 2014 Your turn to answer my questions"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #18 January 29, 2014 DanGQuotethe intent of this treaty is a start to remove guns from the hands of private citizens That goes against the US Constitution It does not single out any country for implimentation nor does it exempt any Try reading the actual text, I have And I also know what the UN is Obviously you dont and you dont care Nor does who voted for or against it give you any insight"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #19 January 29, 2014 rushmc *********No, they really didn't. Did you stop to wonder why the guy that wrote that email only quoted half a sentence from one paragraph of an entire resolution? I have known about this whole thing for many weeks and yes they did Why did you chose to post a misleading incomplete portion of the text? To get gun banners (like you) panties in a wad See It works So you admit that you tried to mislead us just to irritate people. Your attempt, however, was so lame it was instantly debunked.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #20 January 29, 2014 DanGQuotethe intent of this treaty is a start to remove guns from the hands of private citizens That goes against the US Constitution It does not single out any country for implimentation nor does it exempt any Try reading the actual text, not some right wing spittle besotted web site's version. I love the imagery.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #21 January 29, 2014 kallend ************No, they really didn't. Did you stop to wonder why the guy that wrote that email only quoted half a sentence from one paragraph of an entire resolution? I have known about this whole thing for many weeks and yes they did Why did you chose to post a misleading incomplete portion of the text? To get gun banners (like you) panties in a wad See It works So you admit that you tried to mislead us just to irritate people. Your attempt, however, was so lame it was instantly debunked. Nope my reply to you only shows I no longer take you seriously You can lie to yourself if you wish But not to me"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #22 January 29, 2014 rushmc***QuoteLet me ask you No, until you've stated your case I won't let you. You started this thread, and I've asked you to explain your opinion. Why shouldn't the US sign on? the intent of this treaty is a start to remove guns from the hands of private citizens That goes against the US Constitution It does not single out any country for implimentation nor does it exempt any Now, you answer Ok. The US should sign on because the resolution is clearly, legibly and specifically aimed at combating the illegal trade in small arms that feeds, among other things, Islamic terrorism, and because your objection is based purely on paranoid fantasism and not on anything contained within the resolution. A resolution that clearly, legibly and specifically respects the rights of gun ownership for private citizens in member States where it is legal. Why do you want to arm Al Qaeda?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #23 January 29, 2014 jakee Why do you want to arm Al Qaeda? Obama was already doing that Ever heard of Bengazi?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #24 January 29, 2014 rushmcYour turn to answer my questions Done, now how does calling for a crackdown on forms of international arms trading that are already illegal affect the rights of US citizens?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #25 January 29, 2014 rushmc*** Why do you want to arm Al Qaeda? Obama was already doing that And evidently you support him. Why?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites