jclalor 12 #1 January 23, 2014 This was nice to see. http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2014/01/22/22376938-pentagon-to-relax-rules-on-personal-religious-wear-including-beards-turbans Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 905 #2 January 23, 2014 Beard rule has changed how? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #3 January 23, 2014 normissBeard rule has changed how? Beards, hair, tattoos, skullcaps, turbins, prayer beads, and piercings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 905 #4 January 23, 2014 Yeah...the beard rule is unchanged. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #5 January 24, 2014 Been this way in the British forces for decades now, nice to see the Americans catching up.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #6 January 24, 2014 American military has a dress code .. - wow who knew (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #7 January 24, 2014 Actually, this is not new. Even the picture in the article is from four years ago. And to the American military dress code...from a Brit? The UK Army has 19 different levels of uniform dress with variations for each Regiment. It is a running joke with them that if two officers from the same Regiment accidentally show up in the same uniform, the junior officer has to go home and change. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #8 January 24, 2014 davjohns Actually, this is not new. Even the picture in the article is from four years ago. And to the American military dress code...from a Brit? The UK Army has 19 different levels of uniform dress with variations for each Regiment. It is a running joke with them that if two officers from the same Regiment accidentally show up in the same uniform, the junior officer has to go home and change. Bwhaaaaa .. sort of right these days... But I do see a lot of USAF here and scruffy doesn't even cover it!) I have to say things have changed since I was 'in'... folks walk around town in 'uniform' but not wearing a hat .. that would have got us shouted at (at best .... or charged!). That even goes for the Officers too (shower of shite). Standards have slipped .... and yet my Dada and Grandad said the same about us .. the cheek of it (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tatster22 0 #9 January 24, 2014 Catching up? The allowance to grow a beard does not demonstrate the advancing of a country. The enitre reason beards were not authorized is because they do not allow for a proper seal while wearing protective mask or a proper seal on self contained breathing apparatus. Has nothing to do with image.Quote Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #10 January 24, 2014 yeah but if we lose a few ' beardies' t's a small price to pay Especially from the female cohort (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites regulator 0 #11 January 24, 2014 tatster22Catching up? The allowance to grow a beard does not demonstrate the advancing of a country. The enitre reason beards were not authorized is because they do not allow for a proper seal while wearing protective mask or a proper seal on self contained breathing apparatus. Has nothing to do with image.Quote Exactly. I'd like to see any man with a beard try and seal a gas mask on his face. It won't work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DanG 1 #12 January 24, 2014 QuoteUSAF USAF? I though we were talking about military dress. (Just kidding, Airmen) - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #13 January 24, 2014 DanGQuoteUSAF USAF? I though we were talking about military dress. (Just kidding, Airmen) TeHe. We have the same problem over here .. knuckle dragers taking the piss out of the RAF.. jealousy I guess (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites normiss 905 #14 January 24, 2014 So long as they were trimmed properly so that the OBA sealed properly, beards were fully allowed when I was in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TriGirl 349 #15 January 24, 2014 Skyrad Been this way in the British forces for decades now, nice to see the Americans catching up. I worked with a delegation of 20 Jordanians for a couple of weeks, 10 women and 10 men. Jordan has an open policy for hair covering for women -- wear it or don't, but if you do, it must be plain black or white (depending on the uniform), and of a single-piece easy-to-wear style. The government didn't want to dictate one look or the other, and wanted all women to have the opportunity to serve. One of the toughest female NCOs I ever met was the one on that delegation, and she chose to cover her hair. We were at Parris Island touring recruit training, and she wanted to try out the obstacle course the recruits were making such drama about. Those recruits certanly got an atttitude adjustment watching her play on that playground! Bottom line -- if you don't make a big deal about it in the service, and have regulations about how it must conform, then you'll have a lot less concern about it in general. As long as the (soldier, sailor, airman, Marine, etc) wears the rest of the uniform sharply and with honor, and performs to standard (hopefully strives to go above standard), then I see no problem with it.See the upside, and always wear your parachute! -- Christopher Titus Shut Up & Jump! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites normiss 905 #16 January 24, 2014 Why does marine get capitalized??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites regulator 0 #17 January 24, 2014 DanG Quote USAF USAF? I though we were talking about military dress. (Just kidding, Airmen) I visited quite a few airmen at rammstein AFB in germany when I was stationed in Kaisterslautern. They never made their rooms because they had fucking MAIDS do it for them. Most jokes aimed at airmen are justified. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TriGirl 349 #18 January 24, 2014 normiss Why does marine get capitalized??? AP Syle guide!See the upside, and always wear your parachute! -- Christopher Titus Shut Up & Jump! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DanG 1 #19 January 24, 2014 Quote normiss wrote:.Why does marine get capitalized??? AP Syle guide! Why does Style get misspelled? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,610 #20 January 24, 2014 tatster22 Catching up? The allowance to grow a beard does not demonstrate the advancing of a country. The enitre reason beards were not authorized is because they do not allow for a proper seal while wearing protective mask or a proper seal on self contained breathing apparatus. Has nothing to do with image. If only they'd thought of that. Oh wait, they didThe new directive will explain that if the articles of faith or physical attributes interfere with the proper function of protective clothing and equipment, the request could be denied. For example, a beard or unshorn hair cannot interfere with gas masks or helmets."Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TriGirl 349 #21 January 26, 2014 DanG Quote normiss wrote:.Why does marine get capitalized??? AP Syle guide! Why does Style get misspelled? Oops! Typo. That's what I get for trying to reply quickly in the middle of a busy work day! See the upside, and always wear your parachute! -- Christopher Titus Shut Up & Jump! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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shropshire 0 #10 January 24, 2014 yeah but if we lose a few ' beardies' t's a small price to pay Especially from the female cohort (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #11 January 24, 2014 tatster22Catching up? The allowance to grow a beard does not demonstrate the advancing of a country. The enitre reason beards were not authorized is because they do not allow for a proper seal while wearing protective mask or a proper seal on self contained breathing apparatus. Has nothing to do with image.Quote Exactly. I'd like to see any man with a beard try and seal a gas mask on his face. It won't work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DanG 1 #12 January 24, 2014 QuoteUSAF USAF? I though we were talking about military dress. (Just kidding, Airmen) - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #13 January 24, 2014 DanGQuoteUSAF USAF? I though we were talking about military dress. (Just kidding, Airmen) TeHe. We have the same problem over here .. knuckle dragers taking the piss out of the RAF.. jealousy I guess (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites normiss 905 #14 January 24, 2014 So long as they were trimmed properly so that the OBA sealed properly, beards were fully allowed when I was in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TriGirl 349 #15 January 24, 2014 Skyrad Been this way in the British forces for decades now, nice to see the Americans catching up. I worked with a delegation of 20 Jordanians for a couple of weeks, 10 women and 10 men. Jordan has an open policy for hair covering for women -- wear it or don't, but if you do, it must be plain black or white (depending on the uniform), and of a single-piece easy-to-wear style. The government didn't want to dictate one look or the other, and wanted all women to have the opportunity to serve. One of the toughest female NCOs I ever met was the one on that delegation, and she chose to cover her hair. We were at Parris Island touring recruit training, and she wanted to try out the obstacle course the recruits were making such drama about. Those recruits certanly got an atttitude adjustment watching her play on that playground! Bottom line -- if you don't make a big deal about it in the service, and have regulations about how it must conform, then you'll have a lot less concern about it in general. As long as the (soldier, sailor, airman, Marine, etc) wears the rest of the uniform sharply and with honor, and performs to standard (hopefully strives to go above standard), then I see no problem with it.See the upside, and always wear your parachute! -- Christopher Titus Shut Up & Jump! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites normiss 905 #16 January 24, 2014 Why does marine get capitalized??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites regulator 0 #17 January 24, 2014 DanG Quote USAF USAF? I though we were talking about military dress. (Just kidding, Airmen) I visited quite a few airmen at rammstein AFB in germany when I was stationed in Kaisterslautern. They never made their rooms because they had fucking MAIDS do it for them. Most jokes aimed at airmen are justified. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TriGirl 349 #18 January 24, 2014 normiss Why does marine get capitalized??? AP Syle guide!See the upside, and always wear your parachute! -- Christopher Titus Shut Up & Jump! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DanG 1 #19 January 24, 2014 Quote normiss wrote:.Why does marine get capitalized??? AP Syle guide! Why does Style get misspelled? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,610 #20 January 24, 2014 tatster22 Catching up? The allowance to grow a beard does not demonstrate the advancing of a country. The enitre reason beards were not authorized is because they do not allow for a proper seal while wearing protective mask or a proper seal on self contained breathing apparatus. Has nothing to do with image. If only they'd thought of that. Oh wait, they didThe new directive will explain that if the articles of faith or physical attributes interfere with the proper function of protective clothing and equipment, the request could be denied. For example, a beard or unshorn hair cannot interfere with gas masks or helmets."Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TriGirl 349 #21 January 26, 2014 DanG Quote normiss wrote:.Why does marine get capitalized??? AP Syle guide! Why does Style get misspelled? Oops! Typo. That's what I get for trying to reply quickly in the middle of a busy work day! See the upside, and always wear your parachute! -- Christopher Titus Shut Up & Jump! 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DanG 1 #12 January 24, 2014 QuoteUSAF USAF? I though we were talking about military dress. (Just kidding, Airmen) - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #13 January 24, 2014 DanGQuoteUSAF USAF? I though we were talking about military dress. (Just kidding, Airmen) TeHe. We have the same problem over here .. knuckle dragers taking the piss out of the RAF.. jealousy I guess (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 905 #14 January 24, 2014 So long as they were trimmed properly so that the OBA sealed properly, beards were fully allowed when I was in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TriGirl 349 #15 January 24, 2014 Skyrad Been this way in the British forces for decades now, nice to see the Americans catching up. I worked with a delegation of 20 Jordanians for a couple of weeks, 10 women and 10 men. Jordan has an open policy for hair covering for women -- wear it or don't, but if you do, it must be plain black or white (depending on the uniform), and of a single-piece easy-to-wear style. The government didn't want to dictate one look or the other, and wanted all women to have the opportunity to serve. One of the toughest female NCOs I ever met was the one on that delegation, and she chose to cover her hair. We were at Parris Island touring recruit training, and she wanted to try out the obstacle course the recruits were making such drama about. Those recruits certanly got an atttitude adjustment watching her play on that playground! Bottom line -- if you don't make a big deal about it in the service, and have regulations about how it must conform, then you'll have a lot less concern about it in general. As long as the (soldier, sailor, airman, Marine, etc) wears the rest of the uniform sharply and with honor, and performs to standard (hopefully strives to go above standard), then I see no problem with it.See the upside, and always wear your parachute! -- Christopher Titus Shut Up & Jump! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 905 #16 January 24, 2014 Why does marine get capitalized??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #17 January 24, 2014 DanG Quote USAF USAF? I though we were talking about military dress. (Just kidding, Airmen) I visited quite a few airmen at rammstein AFB in germany when I was stationed in Kaisterslautern. They never made their rooms because they had fucking MAIDS do it for them. Most jokes aimed at airmen are justified. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TriGirl 349 #18 January 24, 2014 normiss Why does marine get capitalized??? AP Syle guide!See the upside, and always wear your parachute! -- Christopher Titus Shut Up & Jump! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #19 January 24, 2014 Quote normiss wrote:.Why does marine get capitalized??? AP Syle guide! Why does Style get misspelled? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,610 #20 January 24, 2014 tatster22 Catching up? The allowance to grow a beard does not demonstrate the advancing of a country. The enitre reason beards were not authorized is because they do not allow for a proper seal while wearing protective mask or a proper seal on self contained breathing apparatus. Has nothing to do with image. If only they'd thought of that. Oh wait, they didThe new directive will explain that if the articles of faith or physical attributes interfere with the proper function of protective clothing and equipment, the request could be denied. For example, a beard or unshorn hair cannot interfere with gas masks or helmets."Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TriGirl 349 #21 January 26, 2014 DanG Quote normiss wrote:.Why does marine get capitalized??? AP Syle guide! Why does Style get misspelled? Oops! Typo. That's what I get for trying to reply quickly in the middle of a busy work day! See the upside, and always wear your parachute! -- Christopher Titus Shut Up & Jump! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
