normiss 897 #51 January 16, 2014 Looks like the testing worked, albeit slower than desired Sounds like it was indeed cruel and unusual. Now onto the other 3100 waiting their turn. Given we've only whacked 1300 since the reinstatement in the 70's, this could take awhile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #52 January 16, 2014 Quote Hal: [after Del's execution] WHAT IN THE BLUE FUCK WAS THAT? There's puke all over the floor up there. And that smell! I had Van Hayes open both doors but that smell's not going out for five damn years that's what I'm bettin'. And that asshole, Wharton, is singing about it. You can hear him up there! Paul Edgecomb: Can he carry a tune? Hal: Okay, boys, what in the hell happened? Paul Edgecomb: An execution. A successful one. Hal: How in the name of Christ can you call that a success? Paul Edgecomb: Eduard Delacroix is dead. [to Percy] Paul Edgecomb: Isn't he? Ironic that the companies refusing to sell the execution drugs are causing prisoners extra pain. The next one should go better. Only other alternative would be animal testing. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 897 #53 January 16, 2014 Given that we continue to see the DP use drop by about 10% per year, it's only a matter of time. You'll have to find another way to satisfy your blood lust. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PiLFy 3 #54 January 16, 2014 normiss Looks like the testing worked, albeit slower than desired Sounds like it was indeed cruel and unusual. Now onto the other 3100 waiting their turn. Given we've only whacked 1300 since the reinstatement in the 70's, this could take awhile. Oh, pull_eeze... http://www.bulkammo.com/bulk-22-lr-ammo-22lr36grbphpremgbbucket-1400 $245/1400 = $0.175 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 897 #55 January 17, 2014 Zero fear of ever being accused of something you didn't do eh? Someday, we will understand that killing ourselves is fucking stoopid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #56 January 17, 2014 normiss Looks like the testing worked, albeit slower than desired Sounds like it was indeed cruel and unusual. Now onto the other 3100 waiting their turn. Given we've only whacked 1300 since the reinstatement in the 70's, this could take awhile. Wasn't it cruel and unusual punishment when he raped and murdered that girl? Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PiLFy 3 #57 January 17, 2014 masterrig ***Looks like the testing worked, albeit slower than desired Sounds like it was indeed cruel and unusual. Now onto the other 3100 waiting their turn. Given we've only whacked 1300 since the reinstatement in the 70's, this could take awhile. Wasn't it cruel and unusual punishment when he raped and murdered that girl, & unborn child? Chuck FIFY. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 897 #58 January 17, 2014 Well sure it was, it was multiple murder. Let the killings continue!!! Someday, humans will eliminate ourselves from existence. Would you understand then? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #59 January 17, 2014 PiLFy ******Looks like the testing worked, albeit slower than desired Sounds like it was indeed cruel and unusual. Now onto the other 3100 waiting their turn. Given we've only whacked 1300 since the reinstatement in the 70's, this could take awhile. Wasn't it cruel and unusual punishment when he raped and murdered that girl, & unborn child? Chuck FIFY. Thanks for adding that! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #60 January 17, 2014 masterrig ***Looks like the testing worked, albeit slower than desired Sounds like it was indeed cruel and unusual. Now onto the other 3100 waiting their turn. Given we've only whacked 1300 since the reinstatement in the 70's, this could take awhile. Wasn't it cruel and unusual punishment when he raped and murdered that girl? Chuck No, that was a CRIME. Society at large is supposed to be better than criminals. Society shouldn't be emulating criminals.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 897 #61 January 17, 2014 Thank you for making my point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #62 January 17, 2014 normiss Thank you for making my point. You're welcome. ... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 897 #63 January 17, 2014 It was bound to happen eventually John. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #64 January 17, 2014 kallend Society at large is supposed to be better than criminals. Society shouldn't be emulating criminals. +10"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #65 January 17, 2014 I seriously doubt the entire population will be wiped-out due to the death penalty. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #66 January 17, 2014 kallend ******Looks like the testing worked, albeit slower than desired Sounds like it was indeed cruel and unusual. Now onto the other 3100 waiting their turn. Given we've only whacked 1300 since the reinstatement in the 70's, this could take awhile. Wasn't it cruel and unusual punishment when he raped and murdered that girl? Chuck No, that was a CRIME. Society at large is supposed to be better than criminals. Society shouldn't be emulating criminals. What was done was considered legal and acceptable. Heck, they could've used 'old sparky'. Poo-poo happens. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #67 January 17, 2014 masterrig Wasn't it cruel and unusual punishment when he raped and murdered that girl? And we executed him for it. Are you suggesting the same be done to the members of the criminal justice system of Ohio? Or the jurors and judge that gave him the sentence? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #68 January 17, 2014 masterrig What was done was considered legal and acceptable. Heck, they could've used 'old sparky'. Poo-poo happens. A lot of things "was considered legal an acceptable." Until it wasn't. that included separate but equal, beating confessions out of innocent people, illegal searches, beating protesters for exercising freedom of speech or religion, ... need I continue? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #69 January 17, 2014 kelpdiver*** Wasn't it cruel and unusual punishment when he raped and murdered that girl? And we executed him for it. Are you suggesting the same be done to the members of the criminal justice system of Ohio? Or the jurors and judge that gave him the sentence? Wow! You really had to reach for that one! I wasn't suggesting any such thing. Or is that what you are thinking? Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PiLFy 3 #70 January 17, 2014 "Society shouldn't be emulating criminals." We're not. We're merely taking out the trash... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #71 January 17, 2014 kelpdiver*** What was done was considered legal and acceptable. Heck, they could've used 'old sparky'. Poo-poo happens. A lot of things "was considered legal an acceptable." Until it wasn't. that included separate but equal, beating confessions out of innocent people, illegal searches, beating protesters for exercising freedom of speech or religion, ... need I continue? Well, obviously, I'm in favor of the death penalty and you obviously are not. Let's just call it a draw. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 897 #72 January 17, 2014 Wonder how much the death penalty saves money???? None. Even less this time around. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #73 January 17, 2014 ryoder*** Society at large is supposed to be better than criminals. Society shouldn't be emulating criminals. +10 This is precisely the reason I most oppose the death penalty. Assuming he was guilty, of course he morally deserved to die miserably. And speaking solely as an individual, if he'd done that to my wife or daughter, I'd happily burn him at the stake alive, if I could. But society is supposed to collectively rise above the level of the base emotions and actions of the individual. To my view, when we kill someone for whom we have the alternative to imprison, then we as a society reduce ourselves down to the level of the murderer. Thus, I feel this way even when we are certain of the accused's guilt. Yeah, I know all the counter-arguments. But I've had about 40 years to think this through quite thoroughly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #74 January 17, 2014 masterrig Well, obviously, I'm in favor of the death penalty and you obviously are not. Let's just call it a draw. I have no objection to the death penalty when we absolutely know the guilt of the defendant. That, however, is problematic, short of a freely provided confession. And when those people do so in order to get the DP (McVeigh), maybe we shouldn't be giving them what they want. And if we're going to administer the DP, it needs to accord with our Constitution. It doesn't matter how cruel their acts were, we are supposed to remain rational and true to our beliefs. So no death by dog attack, or gas chamber choke fests. Put him down the way we might the family pet. Humanely, pain free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 897 #75 January 17, 2014 That "freely provided confession" has been proven problematic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
