normiss 891 #26 January 2, 2014 Less screaming. More listening. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #27 January 2, 2014 SkyDekkerQuoteAbsence of religion or other fantasy-based social structures. Like being Jewish? 'Being Jewish' is a tribal identity. There is no requirement for religious conviction to be a Jew - it's who you are, not what you are. If anything, the religious aspects of Jewish tradition are the Achilles' heel of Jewish society. Ironically enough, it is the religious aspects of Jewish tradition that various wannabe religions (Islam, Christianity) choose to emulate. It is fitting that Islam was the downfall of the Persian Empire, and it was Catholicism (and whiskey) to which Ireland succumbed. A remarkable proportion of Jews - even observant ones - are functional Atheists. "It's Bronze Age tradition, Bubbie, don't read too much into it." - A Rabbi you wouldn't know BSBD, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 186 #28 January 3, 2014 No Religion. No politicians. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #29 January 3, 2014 winsor *** Quote Absence of religion or other fantasy-based social structures. Like being Jewish? 'Being Jewish' is a tribal identity. There is no requirement for religious conviction to be a Jew - it's who you are, not what you are. If anything, the religious aspects of Jewish tradition are the Achilles' heel of Jewish society. Ironically enough, it is the religious aspects of Jewish tradition that various wannabe religions (Islam, Christianity) choose to emulate. It is fitting that Islam was the downfall of the Persian Empire, and it was Catholicism (and whiskey) to which Ireland succumbed. A remarkable proportion of Jews - even observant ones - are functional Atheists. "It's Bronze Age tradition, Bubbie, don't read too much into it." - A Rabbi you wouldn't know BSBD, Winsor Wow. I'm glad you can define the Jewish peoples. I bet they are too.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CornishChris 5 #30 January 3, 2014 quade Depending on the changes suggested, making the US a better place would make the world a better place. The change Turtle suggested was 'get rid of Obamacare'. Not sure that makes the world a better place. The US does a lot of good in the world. It also does a lot of bad. I'm not sure that 2 changes to the US would improve the whole world, hence my reference to the OPs comment about making the world a better place. CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #31 January 3, 2014 turtlespeed Wow. I'm glad you can define the Jewish peoples. I bet they are too. Any of us can - it's no big deal. What is now 'Christianity' is essentially a European Pagan overlay of Hebrew lore and tradition, largely based on misinterpretation and misunderstanding. If you are a Jew, I expect you understand (we do not all agree, but we tend to get it). If you are Gentile, something like jewfaq.org is a good place to start. BSBD, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #32 January 3, 2014 So basically your suggestion for improving the world is to get rid of all religeons, except the jewish faith. Kinda sounds like, keep the richest 1.5 billion jews and kill everybody else and the world will be fine. Or, only keep those like me and get rid of everybody else. What a boring world you wish to live in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #33 January 3, 2014 SkyDekkerSo basically your suggestion for improving the world is to get rid of all religeons, except the jewish faith. Kinda sounds like, keep the richest 1.5 billion jews and kill everybody else and the world will be fine. Or, only keep those like me and get rid of everybody else. What a boring world you wish to live in. Someone tried that (well the other way around) in the 30's and folks got rightly upset about it. Is the slipper now on the other foot? (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #34 January 3, 2014 1) Eliminate traffic lights 2) See #1... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #36 January 3, 2014 SkyDekkerSo basically your suggestion for improving the world is to get rid of all religeons, except the jewish faith. Kinda sounds like, keep the richest 1.5 billion jews and kill everybody else and the world will be fine. Or, only keep those like me and get rid of everybody else. What a boring world you wish to live in. I am not sure if your reading comprehension is abysmal, you are intellectually challenged, you are simply being confrontational or some combination of the three. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and operate on the basis of the third option. I did not recommend any action that would result in a sustainable population of the most cognizant and productive members of the species, nor did I make any reference to a preferred ethnicity. I certainly did not say anything to suggest that Hebrew mythology was in any way better or worse than the nonsense touted by any other system of delusion. My point is that a bottom-heavy society overpopulated by a vast excess of the ignorant and superstitious is a recipe for the doom of our species. Since that is inevitable (there is NO way to change that reality), we are fucked. It is not a question of if so much as when and how bad. What you have said is beyond fucked up, and it comes entirely from you. Again, apply some reading comprehension and lay off trying to read between the lines. I can't believe I rose to such bait. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #37 January 3, 2014 winsorMy point is that a bottom-heavy society overpopulated by a vast excess of the ignorant and superstitious is a recipe for the doom of our species. If you delete this emotional and ignorant, then who do I take advantage of for financial and political personal gain? c'mon I scare them with race, nationality, global warming, pretty much anything (take examples from the Democratic and the Republican (pick other parties for other countries, and the religion playbooks, take typical attitudes about particular countries and play on it (those wacky Americans, those crazy Russians, those violent etc etc etc)) hell, half the posts here are about deleting someone's scary demographic they've indoctrinated to be frightened of 1 - people be confident in their abilities to earn their own way, and confident that others can do the same 2 - everyone treat each other as individuals - starting by giving the benefit of the doubt until observed individual actions can take over - no group think or judgments just because of cosmetics or home location, etc (pretty much eliminate the laziness that creates biases) 3 - yes, no more traffic lights ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #38 January 3, 2014 shropshire ***So basically your suggestion for improving the world is to get rid of all religeons, except the jewish faith. Kinda sounds like, keep the richest 1.5 billion jews and kill everybody else and the world will be fine. Or, only keep those like me and get rid of everybody else. What a boring world you wish to live in. Someone tried that (well the other way around) in the 30's and folks got rightly upset about it. Is the slipper now on the other foot? Ahhh...the famous English understatement."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfzombie13 324 #39 January 3, 2014 you missed a closing parenthesis. should be three on the end._________________________________________ Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #40 January 3, 2014 sfzombie13 you missed a closing parenthesis. should be three on the end. that might be the best post on the thread so far ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #41 January 4, 2014 First is not a world fix but would go a long way towards improving the quality of life for all countries; stop making people pay huge $ for a college education. There should be universities in the US that are paid for by the government if you qualify academically. We're willing to give millions to uneducated idiots who can't support themselves. The ROI on those dollars are $0.00. Of course you should still be able to get the best education money can buy so Harvard and Stanford can still charge megabucks. Use technology advances to make nuclear war obsolete. Once obsolete there would be no reason to keep the warheads. Yea, I know. Lots of bad guys would love to get their hands on a nuke, but that problem exists now and it seems we've done a pretty good job of keeping them out of the terrorists hands.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites