Global warming traps scientists in ice

[rushmc 23]

kallend

***************I'm sure that Kallend would be able to shed some light on the matter, however, the word on the street is that he is fighting for his life, beset by -15 degrees of global warming. One can only pray that an incremental Prius purchase will save him.

Warming of the Arctic was predicted some time back to cause instability of the jet stream. Usually the jet stream confines the polar vortex to the high Arctic. However, due to Arctic warming the polar vortex has been able to move south leading to the current cold spell.

You will buy any line of bullshit they sell

Wow





How does crow taste?

Dont know
Havent eaten any

Dunning-Kruger strikes again.

Nah

Just desperation on an alarmits part

Nothing new here John

Been happening for decades

But, since you and your fellow alarmists are loosing the temp data you have to go another direction

Too little snow
Global warming
Too much snow
Global warming
Too warm
Global warming
To cold
Global warming
Too dry
Global warming
Too wet
Global warnim

Too stupid
Global warming alarmists


give it up
Your alarm to control genda is not going anywhere

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,135]

QED.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[brenthutch 444]

I sould have been more specific. How about something from the 1990s. These "theories" have only been promulgated AFTER the lack of warming made it necessary.

"I predict warming; snow will be a thing of the past and the arctic will be ice free by 2013"

I'll let you know about the crow when it gets served.

[billvon 3,096]

>I did not realize that you and Kallend lived in the same neighborhood.

Neither do these scientists!

[brenthutch 444]

In 1974, Time Magazine blamed the cold polar vortex on global cooling.

Scientists have found other indications of global cooling. For one thing there has been a noticeable expansion of the great belt of dry, high-altitude polar winds —the so-called circumpolar vortex—that sweep from west to east around the top and bottom of the world.

Another Ice Age? – TIME

Forty years later, Time Magazine blames the cold polar vortex on global warming

But not only does the cold spell not disprove climate change, it may well be that global warming could be making the occasional bout of extreme cold weather in the U.S. even more likely. Right now much of the U.S. is in the grip of a polar vortex, which is pretty much what it sounds like: a whirlwind of extremely cold, extremely dense air that forms near the poles. Usually the fast winds in the vortex—which can top 100 mph (161 k/h)—keep that cold air locked up in the Arctic. But when the winds weaken, the vortex can begin to wobble like a drunk on his fourth martini, and the Arctic air can escape and spill southward, bringing Arctic weather with it. In this case, nearly the entire polar vortex has tumbled southward, leading to record-breaking cold

Polar Vortex: Climate Change Could Be the Cause of Record Cold Weather | TIME.com

[kallend 2,135]

brenthutch

In 1974, Time Magazine blamed the cold polar vortex on global cooling.

Scientists have found other indications of global cooling. For one thing there has been a noticeable expansion of the great belt of dry, high-altitude polar winds —the so-called circumpolar vortex—that sweep from west to east around the top and bottom of the world.

Another Ice Age? – TIME

Forty years later, Time Magazine blames the cold polar vortex on global warming

1. Incorrect statement.

2. Time is not a peer reviewed science journal.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rushmc 23]

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/what-catastrophe_773268.html#

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kelpdiver 2]

brenthutch

I sould have been more specific. How about something from the 1990s. These "theories" have only been promulgated AFTER the lack of warming made it necessary.

Do you actually understand the scientific method? Of course theories evolve as more data comes in. That doesn't mean the people had an evil agenda to deceive.

Quote

"I predict warming; snow will be a thing of the past and the arctic will be ice free by 2013"

I'll let you know about the crow when it gets served.

Are you sure you're not misquoting here? I believe he did make the laughable claim that people in England would forget what snow is. I don't recall a claim that the arctic would be ice free by 2013, particularly when no one would even predict that for Killamanjaro in the center of Africa.

[brenthutch 444]

Have you been able to get ahold of some of that vintage peer reviewed science, say circa 1998 to support your current contention?

[jakee 1,584]

rushmc

Dont know
Havent eaten any

Oh yeah? I'm still waiting for you to tell me what Lawrocket was right about and I was wrong about. Any time you're ready

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[rushmc 23]

jakee

***
Dont know
Havent eaten any

Oh yeah? I'm still waiting for you to tell me what Lawrocket was right about and I was wrong about. Any time you're ready

Everything

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[brenthutch 444]

Al Gore claim.

[Southern_Man 0]

I ate well today. Obviously all those stories about global hunger are made up.

"What if there were no hypothetical questions?"

[kelpdiver 2]

brenthutch

Al Gore claim.

he being a scientist, of course.

[brenthutch 444]

In his Dec. 10, 2007 “Earth has a fever” speech, Gore referred to a prediction by U.S. climate scientist Wieslaw Maslowski that the Arctic’s summer ice could “completely disappear” by 2013 due to global warming caused by carbon emissions.

[brenthutch 444]

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Do you actually understand the scientific method? Of course theories evolve as more data comes in.

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"We've learned from experience that the truth will come out. Other experimenters will repeat your experiment and find out whether you were wrong or right. Nature's phenomena will agree or they'll disagree with your theory. And, although you may gain some temporary fame and excitement, you will not gain a good reputation as a scientist if you haven't tried to be very careful in this kind of work. And it's this type of integrity, this kind of care not to fool yourself, that is missing to a large extent in much of the research in cargo cult science."

Feynman

[kelpdiver 2]

brenthutch

In his Dec. 10, 2007 “Earth has a fever” speech, Gore referred to a prediction by U.S. climate scientist Wieslaw Maslowski that the Arctic’s summer ice could “completely disappear” by 2013 due to global warming caused by carbon emissions.

you need to look up the definition of a word, perhaps?

[rushmc 23]

kelpdiver

***In his Dec. 10, 2007 “Earth has a fever” speech, Gore referred to a prediction by U.S. climate scientist Wieslaw Maslowski that the Arctic’s summer ice could “completely disappear” by 2013 due to global warming caused by carbon emissions.

you need to look up the definition of a word, perhaps?

Parsing a word to try and change what we all knew AlGore was implying?

Really?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kelpdiver 2]

When you're charging scientists with fraud, words really do matter. Especially if you change scientist to Al Gore and could to will.

While we can debate their honesty, you two leave absolutely no doubt on your's. It's hardly a surprise when Brent puts up vague, uncited material, and then when queried, starts to change the lines. Al Gore is a straight shooter next to him.

[brenthutch 444]

kallend

***I'm sure that Kallend would be able to shed some light on the matter, however, the word on the street is that he is fighting for his life, beset by -15 degrees of global warming. One can only pray that an incremental Prius purchase will save him.

Warming of the Arctic was predicted some time back to cause instability of the jet stream. Usually the jet stream confines the polar vortex to the high Arctic. However, due to Arctic warming the polar vortex has been able to move south leading to the current cold spell.

Sound plausible, but it is wrong.
Award-winning Princeton University Physicist Dr. Will Happer rejected the media and some scientists claims that the record U.S. cold is due to man-made global warming.
“Polar vortices have been around forever. They have almost nothing to do with more CO2 in the atmosphere,” Happer said in an exclusive interview with Climate Depot.
Happer continued: “Here is a thumbnail sketch of the physics. The poles have little sunshine even in summer, but especially in winter, like now in the Arctic. So the air over the poles rapidly gets bitterly cold because of radiation to dark space, with negligible replenishment of heat from sunlight. The sinking cold air is replaced by warmer air flowing in from the south at high altitudes. Since the earth is rotating, the air flowing in from the south has to start rotating faster to the west, just like a figure skater rotates faster if she pulls in her arms. This forms the polar vortex. The extremely cold air at the bottom of the vortex can be carried south by meanders of the jet stream at the edge of the vortex. We will have to live with polar vortices as long as the sun shines and the earth rotates.Like any fluid system at “high Reynolds number,” the jet stream is highly unstable, and from time to time it develops meanders to low latitudes, like the one we have had the past few days. About this time of year in 1777, just before the Battle of Princeton, there was a similar sequence.

[jakee 1,584]

rushmc

Everything

So you think that all the water in the ocean is the same temperature?

You'd best jog on and let the grown ups talk then.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[rushmc 23]

jakee

***Everything

So you think that all the water in the ocean is the same temperature?



Nope

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[jakee 1,584]

rushmc

******Everything

So you think that all the water in the ocean is the same temperature?



Nope

So Lawrocket's not right about everything and I'm not wrong about everything. So why did you lie in your last reply? Is it because you couldn't find any specifics?

Of course it is.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[rushmc 23]

jakee

*********Everything

So you think that all the water in the ocean is the same temperature?



Nope

So Lawrocket's not right about everything and I'm not wrong about everything. So why did you lie in your last reply? Is it because you couldn't find any specifics?

Of course it is.

Nope

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[jakee 1,584]

rushmc

************Everything

So you think that all the water in the ocean is the same temperature?



Nope

So Lawrocket's not right about everything and I'm not wrong about everything. So why did you lie in your last reply? Is it because you couldn't find any specifics?

Of course it is.

Nope

Yeah, sure. There must be another reason why you can't think of anything to say except 'nope' again.

Great argument dude.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?