A&E Suspends Phil Robertson

[RonD1120 62]

SkyDekker

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Would you like to start a thread with a poll on males in SC that have ephebophelia?

How about I ask those with teenage daughters what they would do to some one who uses religion to justify wanting to consumate a marriage with their daughters?

Now you are beginning to show some wisdom. The parents should be involved in the marriage of their daughter regardless of her age. The husband to be needs to be evaluated by competent loving authority.

You are an opprobrious and reprehensible man.

Now in your attempt to sound erudite you are choosing incorrect words. This is going badly for you.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

RonD1120

******At what point did this thread turn and wind up way the fuck over here in ephebophelia land?

When ron told us jesus says it is fine to fuck them.

Now you are stating a lie. I never said that and you know it. Your credibility just went to zero.

Read my post #365.

In the christian faith, there is only one reason to get married...to have babies (so the church lives in and prospers).

I'm assuming you know how babies are made.

[rushmc 23]

SkyDekker

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But many here who are bashing Phil for his humor support the gov providing birth control for teenage girls as well as providing them with abortion services
Teens will be teens after all

If you think marrying off 15 year old girls and access to abortion and birth control is an apples to apples comparison, we won't get even close to a common ground for a meaningful discussion.

You keep adding to what he said

And of course you will not discuss this
It shows a level of hypocrisy

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[SkyDekker 1,465]

rushmc

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But many here who are bashing Phil for his humor support the gov providing birth control for teenage girls as well as providing them with abortion services
Teens will be teens after all

If you think marrying off 15 year old girls and access to abortion and birth control is an apples to apples comparison, we won't get even close to a common ground for a meaningful discussion.

You keep adding to what he said

And of course you will not discuss this
It shows a level of hypocrisy

What is there to discuss marc? You think it is the same, I think it is thousands of miles apart.

What is the discussion you would like to have? I disagree with you, that makes me a hypocrite according to you. I cannot fathom how you think the two are equal.

In response to anything you will attempt to write a couple of words and add an emoticon. I've said this before and others have said the same thing, it is pretty much impossible to have a discussion with you.

[RonD1120 62]

No point to this post. You are not making sense.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

RonD1120

No point to this post. You are not making sense.

I'll happily not make sense of 15 year olds married and pregnant. I'll continue on in my state of utter oblivion.

[rushmc 23]

YOU posted that Ronsaid that jebus said it is ok to FUCK them
YOU did, not Ron

But you support teenage birth control and abortions

Miles a part?

I guess in your mind

And yes, we disagree

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[winsor 236]

SkyDekker

You are an opprobrious and reprehensible man.

Dang, if it wun't fer all them ten dollar words, I'd be guessin' y'all wuz tryin' fer a PA.

[RonD1120 62]

winsor

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You are an opprobrious and reprehensible man.

Dang, if it wun't fer all them ten dollar words, I'd be guessin' y'all wuz tryin' fer a PA.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[rehmwa 2]

RonD1120

Now you are beginning to show some wisdom. The parents should be involved in the marriage of their daughter regardless of her age. The husband to be needs to be evaluated by competent loving authority.

crap - daughters are not property and should not be considered in that way

the parents should raise their daughter so that, when she is an adult, she is capable and mature enough to, 'evaluate' her prospects on her own

teenage weddings is a remnant of a crappy time when reproduction had priority over moral and good judgement

a loving and mature 'authority' (i.e., good parents) should take the sole fact of someone making an offer to marry their minor (daughters or sons) as proof that the prospect is NOT suitable at all

ditto on teenagers having adult physical relationships - crappy idea too. not ready for either

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[normiss 893]

Seriously?

Can't get a 15 year old girl to have your babies if you don't fuck them.


You bitches be crazy.

[rushmc 23]

normiss

Seriously?

Can't get a 15 year old girl to have your babies if you don't fuck them.


You bitches be crazy.

I guess for me this whole thread is a joke
The only reasons all those going after Phil is he is a Christian and he is sucesseful

All the rest of the bs has been blown out of proportion

I know Andy went and looked at the interview and does not agree but
He seemed more to be making a joke to me than anything else

A bad one?
Probably so but this is a bunch of nonsense for nothing

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[RonD1120 62]

I take it you do not have a daughter.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[freethefly 6]

normiss

I thought jebus said it was ok?

Jebus said no such thing. It was his daddy. You know, the one who banged a young virgin. He was so gentle that he did not even bust her cherry. Probably just a small penis. Anyways, go forth and fuck your eyes out and then do some math. You know, multiply.

"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young

[RonD1120 62]

Ah shucks, you almost made it into the adult category.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[rehmwa 2]

RonD1120

I take it you do not have a daughter.

I do. i don't consider her property. i want her to be able to choose wisely for herself as an adult. she makes good decisions.

Prior to 18, it was my responsibility to keep the creeps away from her and set an example such that she values herself enough as an adult to choose wisely. The outdated values you are defending here absolutely treat daughters as commodities and completely devalues them.

We had a Euro poster here that was all gung ho about sex with 12 year olds and older. I told him his position was filthy, regardless of his local and social accepted laws and standards. This thread isn't any different, IMO, to me. It's ethically wrong. "Adults" get married. Children learn to become adults. In today's level of sophistication - Kids aren't adult at 14 like a long time ago, more like 25.

if someone had proposed to marry her at 15/16/17/18 they would have accidentally smashed into the door frame as they were escorted out - the boy, or his parents, or both. and then I'd have warned the entire community about them

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[RonD1120 62]

rehmwa

***I take it you do not have a daughter.

I do. i don't consider her property. i want her to be able to choose wisely for herself as an adult. she makes good decisions.

Prior to 18, it was my responsibility to keep the creeps away from her and set an example such that she values herself enough as an adult to choose wisely.

if someone had proposed to marry her at 15/16/17/18 they would have accidentally smashed into the door frame as they were escorted out - the boy, or his parents, or both. and then I'd have warned the entire community about them

If I understand you correctly, once she was 18 your responsibility for helping her choose a husband was over. You did not or would not evaluate her future husband. If she made a bad choice well, it is on her.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[normiss 893]

Thankfully most people seem to think this way in this day and age too.

I'd hate to see us go back to THOSE days.

[RonD1120 62]

So you would take an expression of love, albeit possibly immature, as a justifiable reason for physical assault?

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[rehmwa 2]

RonD1120

If I understand you correctly, once she was 18 your responsibility for helping her choose a husband was over. You did not or would not evaluate her future husband. If she made a bad choice well, it is on her.

I'll 'evaluate' the shit out of him. depend on it. but it's not my decision once she's grown up.

Absolutely, it would be on her. I'll give an opinion. Even a very strong opinion. We did a good job raising her. I trust her judgement because of that.

Prior to 18 it was also not my responsibility to choose a husband for her - it was my responsibility to make sure she didn't get married at all.


what would you do? tie your daughter up? force her to marry someone else? maybe you should consider giving an upbringing where you have more trust for your adult children

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[freethefly 6]

rehmwa

***I take it you do not have a daughter.

I do. i don't consider her property. i want her to be able to choose wisely for herself as an adult. she makes good decisions.

Prior to 18, it was my responsibility to keep the creeps away from her and set an example such that she values herself enough as an adult to choose wisely. The outdated values you are defending here absolutely treat daughters as commodities and completely devalues them.

We had a Euro poster here that was all gung ho about sex with 12 year olds and older. I told him his position was filthy, regardless of his local and social accepted laws and standards. This thread isn't any different, IMO, to me. It's ethically wrong. "Adults" get married. Children learn to become adults. In today's level of sophistication - Kids aren't adult at 14 like a long time ago, more like 25.

if someone had proposed to marry her at 15/16/17/18 they would have accidentally smashed into the door frame as they were escorted out - the boy, or his parents, or both. and then I'd have warned the entire community about them

God says she is property and you can sell her if you want. Got a problem with that? Take it up with God

Damn, there I go a again. Slipping ever further from the adult section

"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young

[rehmwa 2]

RonD1120

So you would take an expression of love, albeit possibly immature, as a justifiable reason for physical assault?

it's an expression of immaturity and poor judgment at best
creepiness and disrepect at worst - especially if there's an age difference involved

love would be waiting until both were adult and could decide for themselves - 100, even 50, years ago maybe that was 15, today it's much older

as a parent, I protect the CHILD from adult decisions, raise them to make their own decisions once adult. So I DO make the decision up until then. and that is stay away from the child.

it's a shame about the accident.....whoops....propose molesting my child and I will break the law and accept the consequences (not 'justifiable', not under law. I never said it was correct or legal. Just that it would happen)

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[RonD1120 62]

rehmwa

***If I understand you correctly, once she was 18 your responsibility for helping her choose a husband was over. You did not or would not evaluate her future husband. If she made a bad choice well, it is on her.

I'll 'evaluate' the shit out of him. depend on it. but it's not my decision once she's grown up.

Absolutely, it would be on her. I'll give an opinion. Even a very strong opinion. We did a good job raising her. I trust her judgement because of that.

Prior to 18 it was also not my responsibility to choose a husband for her - it was my responsibility to make sure she didn't get married at all.


what would you do? tie your daughter up? force her to marry someone else? maybe you should consider giving an upbringing where you have more trust for your adult children

We are not on the same page.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[freethefly 6]

normiss

Thankfully most people seem to think this way in this day and age too.

I'd hate to see us go back to THOSE days.

What, you wouldn't want two goats and a yak???? Are you insane???? Who wouldn't take two goats and a yak for a lowly female???? Just what in hell is this world coming to?

Ron, just where do I rate now on your child-adult scale? Any chance of getting back to the grown up table just seems impossible now. Damn the the torpedoes. Full speed ahead!

"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young

[normiss 893]

Not even the same books or library for that matter.
Possibly even planets.