States with most gun violence

[steve1 5]

When I first started teaching I worked in a town that had the highest per capita murder rate in the United States. It received the name "Stab City". Paul Harvey said that he wouldn't even fly over that place in an airplane, because it was that dangerous. I don't think that there was even one homicide due to shooting. The weapon of choice was a knife.

The name of the town was Poplar, Montana. This was about thirty years ago. We need to ban those damn knives!

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steve1

When I first started teaching I worked in a town that had the highest per capita murder rate in the United States. It received the name "Stab City". Paul Harvey said that he wouldn't even fly over that place in an airplane, because it was that dangerous. I don't think that there was even one homicide due to shooting. The weapon of choice was a knife.

The name of the town was Poplar, Montana. This was about thirty years ago. We need to ban those damn knives!

Has someone here suggested banning guns? Or are you trying to make a STRAWMAN?

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I doubt if it was Karl Marx.

He was a damned liar.
His cousin Groucho, however...

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kallend

Has someone here suggested banning guns? Or are you trying to make a STRAWMAN?

you have

Bet it indirectly but you have

and you are not man enough to admit it

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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rushmc

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Has someone here suggested banning guns? Or are you trying to make a STRAWMAN?

you have

Bet it indirectly but you have

and you are not man enough to admit it

Please provide a link to prove your claim or else be considered a liar.

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kallend

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Has someone here suggested banning guns? Or are you trying to make a STRAWMAN?

you have

Bet it indirectly but you have

and you are not man enough to admit it

Please provide a link to prove your claim or else be considered a liar.

man up dude
I am not the only one here who knows where you really stand

But, I guess your mentor about the truth is in the white house today
so
Never mind

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,147]

rushmc

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Has someone here suggested banning guns? Or are you trying to make a STRAWMAN?

you have

Bet it indirectly but you have

and you are not man enough to admit it

Please provide a link to prove your claim or else be considered a liar.

man up dude
I am not the only one here who knows where you really stand

But, I guess your mentor about the truth is in the white house today
so
Never mind

So you can't provide a link to prove your claim. Now you try to weasel word your way out of admitting to lying.

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kallend

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Has someone here suggested banning guns? Or are you trying to make a STRAWMAN?

you have

Bet it indirectly but you have

and you are not man enough to admit it

Please provide a link to prove your claim or else be considered a liar.

man up dude
I am not the only one here who knows where you really stand

But, I guess your mentor about the truth is in the white house today
so
Never mind

So you can't provide a link to prove your claim. Now you try to weasel word your way out of admitting to lying.

Is your leg all tingely?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,147]

rushmc

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Has someone here suggested banning guns? Or are you trying to make a STRAWMAN?

you have

Bet it indirectly but you have

and you are not man enough to admit it

Please provide a link to prove your claim or else be considered a liar.

man up dude
I am not the only one here who knows where you really stand

But, I guess your mentor about the truth is in the white house today
so
Never mind

So you can't provide a link to prove your claim. Now you try to weasel word your way out of admitting to lying.

Is your leg all tingely?

And in addition to weaseling, you can't spell.

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kallend

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Then write, "I will not average rankings of non-independent statistics" 100 times on the blackboard.

Why are you attributing to me something that I didn't do?

Write 100 times on the board "I will not make false accusations".

I don't find the distinction between someone who combines data using shoddy methods to support their point and a person who merely presents/repeats the results of said work to support their views to be particularly meaningful.

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kallend

************Probably not what you think:

247wallst.com/special-report/2013/04/15/states-with-the-most-gun-violence/2/

but these all refer to homicides, not murder, right?

So wouldn't these numbers also include self defense and police shootings?

Wasn't their some famous person who said there are liers, damn liers and statistics?

Jan

Aren't shootings by police or in self defense themselves indicators of gun violence? (Of course, we'd have to remember the NYPD shoots people for holding a wallet, but in general...)

So you think self defense is the same as murder?

And you think guns are animate objects?

Isn't changing the subject the way you always... oh never mind, try this instead, it actually sheds some light on which of you Yanks are doing what

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/11/14/gun-violence-significantly-increased-by-social-interactions

Jan

STRAWMAN arguments get you nowhere.

Then why do you keep using them all the time?



Like now, I did not argue, I asked you a question!

That you didn't answer, you changed the subject again.



Jan

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bakerjan

***************Probably not what you think:

247wallst.com/special-report/2013/04/15/states-with-the-most-gun-violence/2/

but these all refer to homicides, not murder, right?

So wouldn't these numbers also include self defense and police shootings?

Wasn't their some famous person who said there are liers, damn liers and statistics?

Jan

Aren't shootings by police or in self defense themselves indicators of gun violence? (Of course, we'd have to remember the NYPD shoots people for holding a wallet, but in general...)

So you think self defense is the same as murder?

And you think guns are animate objects?

Isn't changing the subject the way you always... oh never mind, try this instead, it actually sheds some light on which of you Yanks are doing what

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/11/14/gun-violence-significantly-increased-by-social-interactions

Jan

STRAWMAN arguments get you nowhere.

Then why do you keep using them all the time?



Like now, I did not argue, I asked you a question!



Jan

"A rhetorical question is a figure of speech in the form of a question that is asked in order to make a point."

Stop weaseling. It doesn't work here.

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kallend

******************Probably not what you think:

247wallst.com/special-report/2013/04/15/states-with-the-most-gun-violence/2/

but these all refer to homicides, not murder, right?

So wouldn't these numbers also include self defense and police shootings?

Wasn't their some famous person who said there are liers, damn liers and statistics?

Jan

Aren't shootings by police or in self defense themselves indicators of gun violence? (Of course, we'd have to remember the NYPD shoots people for holding a wallet, but in general...)

So you think self defense is the same as murder?

And you think guns are animate objects?

Isn't changing the subject the way you always... oh never mind, try this instead, it actually sheds some light on which of you Yanks are doing what

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/11/14/gun-violence-significantly-increased-by-social-interactions

Jan

STRAWMAN arguments get you nowhere.

Then why do you keep using them all the time?



Like now, I did not argue, I asked you a question!



Jan

"A rhetorical question is a figure of speech in the form of a question that is asked in order to make a point."

Stop weaseling. It doesn't work here.

Their you go talking to yourself again and FYI, none of my questions are retorical, I would like to know the answers as I am having trouble wrapping my little canuck back woods head around what point you are trying to make.

Maybe I am just not smart enough to see your wisdom, is this how you treat your students who don't undersntad you and ask questions?

Jan

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Well you're certainly comfortable with it.

[kelpdiver 2]

lot of weasels here. I guess it proves the adage "it takes one to know one."

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bakerjan

So you think self defense is the same as murder?

And you think guns are animate objects?

Funny how some people think putting a question mark at the end of a strawman statement somehow stops it from being a strawman.


So you are a moron?

And a weasel as well?

Just questions.


Those question marks sure come in handy using Jan's logic.

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kallend

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So you think self defense is the same as murder?

And you think guns are animate objects?

Funny how some people think putting a question mark at the end of a strawman statement somehow stops it from being a strawman.


So you are a moron?

And a weasel as well?

Just questions.


Those question marks sure come in handy using Jan's logic.


Those question marks sure come in handy using Jan's logic.

That's right, my logic is asking questions so I can understand yours, asking questions is a good way to learn, that's my logic. You seem to conflate self defense and police shootings and murder if guns are involved, and saying gun violence means violence done by guns like the gun is to blame, so I asked you to clarify. If I had known that question marks offend you, I would have wrote the sentence different.

So you are a moron?

Sometimes.

And a weasel as well?

I don't think so, you are the only person in my life who ever used that word to describe me.

Just questions.

Which I answered, unlike you Professor, and I really do wonder how you treat your students who ask you questions you don't like or don't want to be bothered having to answer, if your as condescending and evasive with them as you are with me. Its really a shame too because I live in a country where hand gun access is limited but rifles are easy to get and I really do want to know what your thinking is. Instead, I get this. Now excuse me, I'm going hunting.

Jan

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bakerjan

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Ohhh, nice! .30-30? Better keep an eye on it so it doesn't sneak out and shoot someone.

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kallend

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So you think self defense is the same as murder?

And you think guns are animate objects?

Funny how some people think putting a question mark at the end of a strawman statement somehow stops it from being a strawman.


So you are a moron?

And a weasel as well?

Just questions.


Those question marks sure come in handy using Jan's logic.

Here's some more of your liberal logic.

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Maybe I missed the discussion that picture refers to, because I don't get it.

Can you provide a link?

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I don't have a link. Sorry.

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Ohhh, nice! .30-30? Better keep an eye on it so it doesn't sneak out and shoot someone.

Maybe it is colluding with some thuggish hand guns with mental disorders and they are planning a major assault.

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yoink

Maybe I missed the discussion that picture refers to, because I don't get it.
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What it is saying is that it's better to be raped than to shoot the rapist, because rape is a more minor crime compared to murder.

This message is endorsed by rapists the world over.

Note that it also considers self defense to be murder.

I wonder if the ladies would agree?

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Aren't shootings by police or in self defense themselves indicators of gun violence?

Counting shootings by police or honest self defense cases is dishonest at best.