regulator 0 #1 November 19, 2013 This is supposed to be the pinnacle legislation defining BHO's presidency, and its a total dumpsterfire, yet the lies and misinformation keep coming. If this is supposed to be the one true example of obamcare working its best then what happens when it's at it's worst? (CNN)– Washington state resident Jessica Sanford was bursting with pride when President Obama mentioned her story during a Rose Garden event on health care reform last month at the White House. "Who wouldn't?" Sanford asks. "I'm a nobody really to have him mention my story." Back in October, Sanford had written a letter to the White House to share her good news. The 48-year-old single mother of a teenage son diagnosed with ADHD had just purchased what she considered to be affordable insurance on the Washington state exchange. "I was ecstatic. I couldn't wait to call the doctor for an appointment on January 2nd," Sanford told CNN about the feeling she had when she first enrolled. Her heartfelt letter made it to the President's hands and then into his October 21 speech. "'I was crying the other day when I signed up. So much stress lifted.'" Obama said, reading from Sanford's letter. The president said Sanford's story was proof, despite the technical problems with the healthcare.gov website, that the Affordable Care Act was working. "That's what the Affordable Care Act is all about. The point is, the essence of the law - the health insurance that's available to people - is working just fine," Obama said. But then, after Obama mentioned her story, Sanford started having problems. Sanford said she received another letter informing her the Washington state health exchange had miscalculated her eligibility for a tax credit. In other words, her monthly insurance bill had shot up from $198 a month (she had initially said $169 a month to the White House but she switched plans) to $280 a month for the same "gold" plan offered by the state exchange. Sanford said she was frustrated with the state's error. But she decided to purchase the new plan and thought everything was fine. It wasn't fine. Last week, Sanford received another letter from the Washington state exchange, stating there had been another problem, a "system error" that resulted in some "applicants to qualify for higher than allowed health insurance premium tax credits." The letter said the state exchange was "disappointed to have discovered this issue" and apologized. The result was a higher quote, which Sanford said was for $390 per month for a "silver" plan with a higher deductible. Still too expensive A cheaper "bronze" plan, Sanford said, came in at $324 per month, but also with a high deductible - also not in her budget. Then another letter from the state exchange with even worse news. "Your household has been determined eligible for a Federal Tax Credit of $0.00 to help cover the cost of your monthly health insurance premium payments," the latest letter said. "I had a good cry," Sanford said about her reaction to the latest news from the state. As a self-employed court reporter, the new quote was simply out of her range. "This is it. I'm not getting insurance," Sanford told CNN. "That's where it stands right now unless they fix it." Sanford, an Obama supporter who voted for the president twice, is careful to say she blames the state of Washington's online marketplace for the mixed signals and not the White House. She is sorry Obama mentioned her during the October 21 speech. "I feel awful about it. I support (the Affordable Care Act)," Sanford said. But the messy rollout in the other Washington, the nation's capital, was not far from her mind. "What the hell? Why is it the same story as the federal government?" Sanford says in disgust with the Washington state exchange. "They didn't have it ready." "They screwed up," she added. Sanford reiterated her frustration in a post to the Washington HealthPlanFinder's Facebook page last Friday. "Wow. You guys really screwed me over," Sanford wrote. "Now I have been priced out and will not be able to afford the plans you offer. But, I get to pay $95 and up for not having health insurance. I am so incredibly disappointed and saddened. You majorly screwed up." In response, a HealthplanFinder posting tried to direct Sanford to a broker for help. "Jessica, we are very sad and disappointed that the tax credit miscalculation affected you so heavily," the comment read, suggesting she try to find a new plan on the site. Sanford responded on Facebook the issue was affordability. Bethany Frey, a spokeswoman for Washington HealthPlanFinder told CNN on Monday night, "I'm already looking into this with our client specialist team. I'll let you know what I hear." http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/11/19/woman-cited-by-president-as-obamacare-success-story-frustrated-by-sign-up-process/?hpt=hp_t2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #2 November 20, 2013 Very sad story. The President's mistake was one I see on here over and over. This lady was a single datapoint in hundreds of millions of datapoints. He claimed this single datapoint proved a larger conclusion. This was horrible reasoning. Using this single datapoint to prove the system is broke is equally in error. Granted, the negative datapoints are piling up... I am a simple man. I often think of things in simple terms. This program reminds me of a story. I don't remember it all, but it ends with a Native American saying, "Only the US government would try to cut a foot from the bottom of the blanket; sew it to the top of the blanket; and think you can get a bigger blanket."I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #3 November 20, 2013 davjohnsI don't remember it all, but it ends with a Native American saying, "Only the US government would try to cut a foot from the bottom of the blanket; sew it to the top of the blanket; and think you can get a bigger blanket." I like that. I suspect its not entirely true however, in that I think the UK Government is exactly the same, along with the Australian, French, NZ, spanish, Italian..............Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #4 November 20, 2013 what you post and now, another of his favorite lies is starting to float to the top along with you can keep you plan And this lie, is you can keep your Dr."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #5 November 20, 2013 QuoteI like that. My favorite most likely fake quote about the Government is an old Indian saying, "Before the white man came, we were roamed about chasing deer and elk, and buffalo. We lived by streams out in nature. We wore animal skins..... Only a white man could have thought he could improve on that." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CygnusX-1 43 #6 November 20, 2013 This is not a comment about ACH, but about posts like this and news reporting in general. I always find it funny that they all report numbers about how much this or that will cost without giving any reference numbers. Not one mention about what insurance would cost Jessica Sanford in the "private" sector. No mention if she had insurance before signing up on the marketplace. It actually implies that she didn't have insurance because: QuoteI couldn't wait to call the doctor for an appointment on January 2nd Why didn't she have insurance before? Could it be that it was also to expensive? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #7 November 20, 2013 CygnusX-1 Why didn't she have insurance before? Could it be that it was also to expensive? She did It was cancelled The last option she has is paying 66% more with higher deductibles and co pays"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #8 November 20, 2013 nope I got that wrong sorry she did not have hc she still can not afford it http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2013/11/19/cnn-highlights-obamacare-jessica-sanford-story/"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #9 November 20, 2013 rushmc nope I got that wrong sorry she did not have hc she still can not afford it http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2013/11/19/cnn-highlights-obamacare-jessica-sanford-story/ The ol' Bait and Switch!Gotta love it in order to see what its really going to do to you and your bank account.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites