Take your gun to a party

[wmw999 2,587]

She probably wanted to have a really epic party . Sometimes one should consider what one wishes for.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[DaVinci 0]

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One of the assailants was 17 years old, who cannot legally own a handgun or have CHL.

Well, that's interesting info (not really, I could have called it).

Do you know anything about the other person? I'd bet they didn't follow any gun laws either.

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shropshire

***So about every 55 years or so, the population of Cypress, Texas gets shot in Chicago.

So why don't they just stay in Cypress and not bother going to Chicago ... if they need a pizza that bad .. send out for one.

you ever tried to get decent deep-dish in TX?

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Rob

[DanG 1]

As Chris Rock explained in No Sex in the Champagne Room, "Don't go to parties with metal detectors. Sure, you feel safe inside, but what about all the niggers with guns outside? They know you don't have one."

Yes, he said niggers, I'm just quoting.

- Dan G

[chedlin 0]

It's all in the Houston news. He was 21. No news on criminal record or CHL, but I will try to avoid bringing all of my assumptions into this. It pretty much speaks for itself.

[billvon 3,111]

>I would like to see their mental wellness evaluations.

But why do you want to BAN GUNS?

[kallend 2,146]

rhaig

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Stupid comment. About every 12 years the population of Cypress TX gets shot DEAD in the USA.

Chicago isn't even in the top 10 for murder rate or violent crimes in the USA.

247wallst.com/special-report/2013/06/13/the-most-dangerous-cities-in-america-3/2/

www.marketwatch.com/story/the-10-most-dangerous-cities-in-america-2013-06-22
www.neighborhoodscout.com/neighborhoods/crime-rates/top100dangerous/ #79 on this list.

www.policymic.com/articles/22686/america-s-10-deadliest-cities-2012

There has been a lot of media attention recently focusing on Chicago’s 2013 murder rate, and for good reason. In the first six days of 2013, 12 people were murdered in the city. At a rate of two murders per day, this puts Chicago on a pace for 730 murders for the 2013 year. Compare that with 2012, where there were 506 murders in the city, or 18.7 murders for every 100,000 citizens. While these numbers are certainly alarming, the number of murders for every 100,000 citizens is significantly lower in Chicago when compared to a number of American cities. In fact, Chicago doesn’t even come close to making the cut for being one of America’s 10 deadliest cities in 2012. Here’s a breakdown of the cities that made the cut this year:...

It seems you've been asserting that Cypress, TX is a dangerous place to live.

Nope. The comparison was started by Normiss. My OP didn't even mention the town.

My point was the incredible STUPIDITY of people who start firing guns at a party.

I wonder if alcohol was involved

I just pointed out

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rickjump1

*********To be fair in response to your parry, I find that wiki tells me that Chicago has a murder rate of 18.5.
The very few murder stats I can find on Cypress, Texas tells me 0%.

Your turn.

I believe you are safer in Afghanistan than Chicago.

Did you practice like the White Queen?http://rt.com/usa/chicago-afghanistan-city-us-108/and I QUOTE:The homicide rate for the city of Chicago is so far up 50 percent from one year earlier. That isn’t to say, of course, that the recent surge is the start of an all new trend. Since the War in Afghanistan began in late 2001, around 2,000 US soldiers have lost their lives while fighting for Uncle Sam; during that same span of time, homicides in Chicago have exceeded 5,000.

“If you look at past decades, you see, as in the rest of the country, a significant decrease in shootings and homicides,” McCarthy adds to The Daily. “But we have haven’t moved as far down as cities like L.A. and New York.”

US President Barack Obama and his family were in Chicago this weekend to attend the wedding of a family friend, an event which prompted the Chicago Police Department to dispatch between 100 and 200 cops to patrol the area, reports The Chicago Sun-Times’. Although it’s not unusual for law enforcement presence for be that extreme for an event featuring such high caliber guests, some officer say that the city might have better things to do with its police force.

More willful ignorance on your part.

The death RATE (per 100,000) of US soldiers in Afghanistan is 19 times higher than the murder rate in Chicago.

And again, for the willfully ignorant, Chicago isn't even in the top 10 US cities for murder rate.

The White Queen would be proud of you.

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Willie Young, 21, and Randy Stewart, 18, were arrested Monday morning, according to the Harris County Sheriff's Office. Young is charged with deadly conduct, while Stewart is charged with aggravated assault. Bail for each suspect was set at $250,000. Court records did not indicate whether Young or Stewart has an attorney.

I guess one way to keep your murder stats down is not to charge killers with murder.

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[wmw999 2,587]

Well, one of the stories makes it clear that the initial charge is nearly always some emphatically makeable lesser charge, and that it doesn't reflect what the actual charge will be whenever the person goes to trial.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[kelpdiver 2]

kallend

I guess one way to keep your murder stats down is not to charge killers with murder.

More willful ignorance on your part. ?

It's a shame that you followed up a very truthful post regarding rates versus absolute numbers with a false anecdote = data argument based on a misunderstanding of the anecdote.

BTW, that would only effect the murder conviction rate, not the murder itself. As we know, dead is dead, making it the only easily comparable metric between places.

[kallend 2,146]

kelpdiver

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I guess one way to keep your murder stats down is not to charge killers with murder.

More willful ignorance on your part. ?

It's a shame that you followed up a very truthful post regarding rates versus absolute numbers with a false anecdote = data argument based on a misunderstanding of the anecdote.
.

Why do you claim it's false? It is exactly what is being reported by multiple sources (ABC, NBC, KWTX, KHOU ...)

Are you also having a White Queen moment?

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billvon

>I would like to see their mental wellness evaluations.

But why do you want to BAN GUNS?

So you didn't miss the quip.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[rickjump1 0]

kallend

************To be fair in response to your parry, I find that wiki tells me that Chicago has a murder rate of 18.5.
The very few murder stats I can find on Cypress, Texas tells me 0%.

Your turn.

I believe you are safer in Afghanistan than Chicago."December 12, 2012 (CHICAGO) (WLS) -- Solving homicides in the city. You might be surprised to find out how many people are getting away with murder.


ABC7's Ben Bradley has an exclusive look at some surprising information about murder in Chicago.

Police stats show just 34 percent of murders get solved within the calendar year they occur. Give detectives two years, and the solve rate barely reaches 50 percent. That means, if you kill somebody in the city, you've got at least a 50/50 shot of getting away with murder.

Scroll through a list of Chicago's unsolved murders, and you'll find the name and photo of Darius Farley. The 20-year-old was in his car in the Grand Crossing neighborhood when someone shot him, sending his vehicle careening into a CTA bus. The search for his killer or killers has grown cold. Detectives, his mom says, have moved on.

"When I give them information that I hear on the street, no one is following up," said mother Coree Parks. "Or they're not even calling to let me know this is what we're doing."

On average, across the country, 64 percent of murders get solved. New York City's murder clearance rate is 60 percent.

Why is Chicago's so much lower? That's where victims' advocates and police agree: It's a mix of manpower, but also a code of silence that extends from witnesses to, in some cases, even relatives of the deceased.

"They're scared of retaliation," said Dawn Valenti, who works for the United for a Cause organization.

"If we get the information out there from the community, not only will the clearance rate be higher but, more importantly, we're going to take a killer off the street," said Chicago Police Chief of Detectives Tom Byrne.

"We have more difficult homicides today, difficult to solve, because they're stranger on stranger as opposed to domestic violence or a situation where there is a relationship between the victim and the offender," said Loyola Criminologist Robert Lombardo.

It's little comfort to a mom still mourning.

"The people that took his life, I don't wish any ill fate on them. I just want justice for my son," said Coree Parks.

Chicago homicide detectives work in squads of six. They juggle about 20 active case at any one time. It's not ideal, but police brass insist lack of cooperation from witnesses, not manpower, is the main obstacle to solving more murders. "


(Copyright ©2013 WLS-TV/DT. All Rights Reserved.)

Did you practice like the White Queen?http://rt.com/usa/chicago-afghanistan-city-us-108/and I QUOTE:The homicide rate for the city of Chicago is so far up 50 percent from one year earlier. That isn’t to say, of course, that the recent surge is the start of an all new trend. Since the War in Afghanistan began in late 2001, around 2,000 US soldiers have lost their lives while fighting for Uncle Sam; during that same span of time, homicides in Chicago have exceeded 5,000.

“If you look at past decades, you see, as in the rest of the country, a significant decrease in shootings and homicides,” McCarthy adds to The Daily. “But we have haven’t moved as far down as cities like L.A. and New York.”

US President Barack Obama and his family were in Chicago this weekend to attend the wedding of a family friend, an event which prompted the Chicago Police Department to dispatch between 100 and 200 cops to patrol the area, reports The Chicago Sun-Times’. Although it’s not unusual for law enforcement presence for be that extreme for an event featuring such high caliber guests, some officer say that the city might have better things to do with its police force.

More willful ignorance on your part.

The death RATE (per 100,000) of US soldiers in Afghanistan is 19 times higher than the murder rate in Chicago.

And again, for the willfully ignorant, Chicago isn't even in the top 10 US cities for murder rate.

The White Queen would be proud of you.Your Disney World view of Chicago does not take into account the unsolved murder rate. Chicago has one of the highest rates in the country. Careful Professor, you could become a statistic in that shit hole you live in. http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?id=8918235

Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

[normiss 892]

This is about everywhere EXCEPT Chicago.
Apparently their local guns laws are working to the satisfaction of local residents.


Pay attention!

[rickjump1 0]

normiss

This is about everywhere EXCEPT Chicago.
Apparently their local guns laws are working to the satisfaction of local residents.


Pay attention!

.......to the "code of silence and fear of retaliation"? Things haven't changed that much since Al Capone left.

Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

[champu 1]

normiss

This is about everywhere EXCEPT Chicago.
Apparently their local guns laws are working to the satisfaction of local residents.

Pay attention!

Precisely.

Chicago is doing fine. The gun crime there is owed to the fact that every other jurisdiction in the lower 48 doesn't have laws retroactively preventing people who shouldn't have had guns due to post-evaluation carelessness, stupidity, mental illness, maleficence, or immaturity from having had them.

That's all he asks.

[kallend 2,146]

rickjump1

Your Disney World view of Chicago does not take into account the unsolved murder rate. Chicago has one of the highest rates in the country. Careful Professor, you could become a statistic in that shit hole you live in. http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?id=8918235

Solved or unsolved, the victim is equally dead.

Yet another ignorant post from the White Queen's top student.

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[kallend 2,146]

normiss

This is about everywhere EXCEPT Chicago.
Apparently their local guns laws are working to the satisfaction of local residents.


Pay attention!

Better, apparently, than in:

78 Lauderdale Lakes, FL
77 Springfield, MA
76 Jackson, TN
75 San Bernardino, CA
74 St. Petersburg, FL
73 Cincinnati, OH
72 Lima, OH
71 Elizabeth, NJ
70 Cleveland, TN
69 Council Bluffs, IA
68 Norristown, PA
67 Orlando, FL
66 Baton Rouge, LA
65 Springfield, IL
64 Carbondale, IL
63 Compton, CA
62 Canton, OH
61 Battle Creek, MI
60 Indianapolis, IN
59 Farmington, NM
58 Lake Worth, FL
57 New Bedford, MA
56 Fort Pierce, FL
55 New London, CT
54 East Point, GA
53 Niagara Falls, NY
52 Providence, RI
51 Newark, NJ
50 Philadelphia, PA
49 Nashville, TN
48 Kansas City, MO
47 Miami, FL
46 Washington, DC
45 Desert Hot Springs, CA
44 Bridgeton, NJ
43 Fort Myers, FL
42 Fall River, MA
41 Brockton, MA
40 Buffalo, NY
39 Salisbury, MD
38 Texarkana, TX
37 Hartford, CT
36 Alexandria, LA
35 New Haven, CT
34 Daytona Beach, FL
33 Cleveland, OH
32 Rockford, IL
31 Pine Bluff, AR
30 Harrisburg, PA
29 Trenton, NJ
28 Stockton, CA
27 Baltimore, MD
26 Atlanta, GA
25 Birmingham, AL
24 Little Rock, AR
23 Homestead, FL
22 Memphis, TN
21 Myrtle Beach, SC
20 Riviera Beach, FL
19 Chester, PA
18 York, PA
17 Wilmington, DE
16 Bessemer, AL
15 Harvey, IL
14 Monroe, LA
13 Oakland, CA
12 Spartanburg, SC
11 Chelsea, MA
10 Inkster, MI
9 Newburgh, NY
8 St. Louis, MO
7 Atlantic City, NJ
6 Detroit, MI
5 Saginaw, MI
4 West Memphis, AR
3 Flint, MI
2 Camden, NJ
1 East St. Louis, IL

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[normiss 892]

Your "example" is worthless.

[kelpdiver 2]

kallend

******
I guess one way to keep your murder stats down is not to charge killers with murder.

More willful ignorance on your part. ?

It's a shame that you followed up a very truthful post regarding rates versus absolute numbers with a false anecdote = data argument based on a misunderstanding of the anecdote.
.

Why do you claim it's false? It is exactly what is being reported by multiple sources (ABC, NBC, KWTX, KHOU ...)


So your defense here is that the press, notorious for reporting an incomplete story, didn't explain the obvious to you? You've lived in America long enough to know that murder charges often taken weeks to determine, particularly in a situation like Zimmerman where the DA might elect to charge with murder 2, or manslaughter, or not at all.

Ignorance is a terrible argument to use, Professor.

[kallend 2,146]

normiss

Your "example" is worthless.

Can't handle the truth? Shouldn't have started the comparison in post #2 of this thread.

78 cities listed as having a higher violent crime rate than Chicago, including YOURS.

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[kallend 2,146]

kelpdiver

Ignorance is a terrible argument to use, Professor.

You never let it stop you.

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[kelpdiver 2]

kallend

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Ignorance is a terrible argument to use, Professor.

You never let it stop you.

wow...Kallend has officially regressed to the 3rd grade. 'I know you are, but what am I?'

Love the missing citation on post 44, too.

[kallend 2,146]

kelpdiver

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Ignorance is a terrible argument to use, Professor.

You never let it stop you.

wow...Kallend has officially regressed to the 3rd grade. 'I know you are, but what am I?'

Love the missing citation on post 44, too.

When you post nonsense, you can expect an appropriate response.

List previously cited - read the thread and eat crow.

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