billvon 3,120 #26 October 25, 2013 >What makes my day is feeding you crow on a regular basis. Here's what makes my day: =============== 100% Electric Car Sales Up 447% In US In 2013 August and September 2013 were funky months in the US auto industry. Basically, the reason for this is the auto industry’s funky calendar. The “last day” of the previous month on the auto industry’s calendar is actually the first weekday of the next calendar month. Because that “last day of the month of August” happened to be Labor Day this year (September 2), all those Labor Day auto sales were logged in August rather than September. (Yep, that’s a notable reason for why electric and hybrid car sales were up so much in August — sorry we missed that last month.) Confused? Read that paragraph again. Not confused? You may proceed to the next paragraph. With that big Labor Day hit, US auto sales were down almost across the board in September 2013 compared to September 2012, including electric and hybrid auto sales. As you can see in the table at the bottom of this post, GM was hit hard, Honda was hit hard, Toyota was hit hard, and electric and hybrid models from other brands were also hit hard. Notably, however, the Nissan Leaf and Tesla Model S continued to shine compared to 2012, and Ford’s electric and hybrid lineup continued to perform better than in 2012 (thanks to several relatively high-selling cars that were introduced right at the end of 2012). Looking at the bigger picture — year-to-date sales — is perhaps much more useful and interesting. It is also more varied. At the end of September 2013, compared to the end of September 2012: Ford’s electric and hybrid sales are up 328.01% (67,232 vs 15,708 sales). Nissan’s electric (Nissan Leaf) sales are up 208.44% (16,076 vs 5,212 sales). Toyota’s electric and hybrid sales are up 9.55% (271,538 vs 247,878 sales) Tesla’s sales are of course up to a huge degree — 8056.25% (13,050 vs 160 sales). GM’s electric and hybrid sales are down 9.3% (38,498 vs 42,446 sales). Honda’s electric and hybrid sales are down 5.5% (13,929 vs 14,739 sales). Porsche’s hybrid sales are down 57.24% (552 vs 1,291 sales). On the whole, 100% electric car sales are up to a huge degree — 447.95% (33,617 vs 6,135) Plug-in hybrid electric car sales are up to a fair degree — 35.86% (32,718 vs 24,082) And conventional hybrid electric car sales are also up quite a bit — 21.03% (360,245 vs 297,656) ================== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #27 October 25, 2013 billvon With that big Labor Day hit, US auto sales were down almost across the board in September 2013 compared to September 2012, including electric and hybrid auto sales. As you can see in the table at the bottom of this post, GM was hit hard, Honda was hit hard, Toyota was hit hard, and electric and hybrid models from other brands were also hit hard. Good catch. Brent, eating that crow of your's, yet? It does make sense to me that the salesmen would adopt such a calendaring system, but it will lead to these occasional distortions. Month to month over year comparisons are also vulnerable to weather distortions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,589 #28 October 25, 2013 Quote Brent, eating that crow of your's, yet? I believe Brent only eats crow if he either shoots it, or runs it down with his SUV Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #29 October 25, 2013 I haven't given up. I might work on it next year. Of course, I don't jump anymore either. I do have another engine to burn fuel in, though. It's only 180hp, but it has wings attached. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #30 October 25, 2013 brenthutchYou are not alone. http://articles.latimes.com/2012/apr/09/business/la-fi-polk-hybrid-owners-20120410 what appears to be missing from this simple survey is how many of those 75,000 buyers were trading in (or selling privately) that hybrid, versus keeping it and buying a second car. The Prius long ago disproved the fears that the battery packs would be dead in a few years. The 'study' also already acknowledged it had no idea how many of them may have gone to EVs instead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #31 October 25, 2013 DanG I haven't given up. I might work on it next year. Of course, I don't jump anymore either. I do have another engine to burn fuel in, though. It's only 180hp, but it has wings attached. I've got all of you...520HP twin 350's My carbon footprint is huge.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yarpos 4 #32 October 25, 2013 airdvr ***I haven't given up. I might work on it next year. Of course, I don't jump anymore either. I do have another engine to burn fuel in, though. It's only 180hp, but it has wings attached. I've got all of you...520HP twin 350's My carbon footprint is huge. no rising sea level problems for you then regards, Steve the older I get...the better I was Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #33 October 25, 2013 >no rising sea level problems for you then And he's secretly buying _near_ waterfront property . . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #34 October 27, 2013 No mention of the Volt which was the topic of my post. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MRmxfLuNto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #35 November 8, 2013 And another 32% drop in October. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/11/01/Chevy-Volt-Sales-Plunge-32 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #36 November 8, 2013 Third Tesla catches fire in the last couple of weeks. However, on the bright side, it could be worse. At least it's not a Ford Pinto Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #37 November 9, 2013 with Firestone 500 tires if I remember correctly.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #38 November 9, 2013 CanuckInUSA Third Tesla catches fire in the last couple of weeks. However, on the bright side, it could be worse. At least it's not a Ford Pinto Good point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #39 November 9, 2013 Thank you for the good info.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites