Volt circling the toilet as sales fall by 38%

[brenthutch 444]

http://rumors.automobilemag.com/gm-september-sales-fall-11-percent-as-chevrolet-drops-14-7-percent-248401.html#axzz2ifLmxJVv

As the United States pass Russia as the worlds largest oil and gas producer, it makes one wonder, just what is the justification for such a POS. Oh BTW this is right after they lowered the price by $5000. RAOTFLMAO

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/oct/04/us-oil-natural-gas-production-russia-saudi-arabia

[Bignugget 0]

brenthutch

http://rumors.automobilemag.com/gm-september-sales-fall-11-percent-as-chevrolet-drops-14-7-percent-248401.html#axzz2ifLmxJVv

As the United States pass Russia as the worlds largest oil and gas producer, it makes one wonder, just what is the justification for such a POS. Oh BTW this is right after they lowered the price by $5000. RAOTFLMAO

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/oct/04/us-oil-natural-gas-production-russia-saudi-arabia

I don't understand.

The Cruze sales suffered much worse, and other models suffered comparably in the article...

Isn't the justification for the Volt the same as the justification for all those other models they will continue to make?

[brenthutch 444]

My taxes don't subsidize the Cruze.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3073850/posts

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brenthutch

My taxes don't subsidize the Cruze.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3073850/posts

Gotcha, so you would be MORE angry had sales improved.

And to be clear, you are against the tax credit for buying an electric car?

[brenthutch 444]

What part of "RAOTFLMAO" (rolling around the floor laughing my ass off), makes you think that I am angry?

[Bignugget 0]

brenthutch

What part of "RAOTFLMAO" (rolling around the floor laughing my ass off), makes you think that I am angry?

Ok....let me rephrase it since something got lost.

Would it be worse in your mind if sales had increased, thus increasing the amount of tax credits?

[DanG 1]

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Gotcha, so you would be MORE angry had sales improved.

You're new here, so I'll explain. Everytime someone in the country buys a Volt, brenthutch sheds a tear. Involuntarily, he can't help it.

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And to be clear, you are against the tax credit for buying an electric car?

brenthutch is against all forms of transportation that do not involve burning as much fossil fuel as possible. The heater in his car runs on propane. His bicycle is coal fired. I even heard his shoes have little gasoline reserviors that squirt a little out with each step.

- Dan G

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brenthutch

My taxes don't subsidize the Cruze.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3073850/posts

Your taxes subsidise every element of the automotive manufacturing industry.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[Bignugget 0]

Turns out "Coal Fired Bicycle"

is an indie rock band.

I thought it would be super fun to find an actual coal fired bicycle picture.

But all I got was indie rock.

[brenthutch 444]

Not true, although I do have two exhausts and 278 bhp, I push the green button so it is ok.

[DanG 1]

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Not true, although I do have two exhausts and 278 bhp, I push the green button so it is ok.

Pussy. I have 330hp and no green button.

Of course, I pushed a Prius for 170k miles before I started burning a lot of dino juice. My next car will be more eco friendly, but right now I'm enjoying the power. I also have no problem paying higher taxes to subsidize electric car development.

- Dan G

[billvon 3,120]

Here, this should make your day:

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Three killed in head-on crash in Sylmar

Three people are dead after a head-on car crash early Sunday morning in Sylmar, authorities said.

The crash occurred at about 2:30 a.m. near the intersection of Laurel Canyon Boulevard and Rinaldi Street when the driver of a Honda apparently lost control and careened into oncoming traffic and struck a Chevy Volt, said Los Angeles Police Department Officer Greg Hayhurst.
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[brenthutch 444]

What makes my day is feeding you crow on a regular basis.

[brenthutch 444]

DanG

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Not true, although I do have two exhausts and 278 bhp, I push the green button so it is ok.

Pussy. I have 330hp and no green button.

Of course, I pushed a Prius for 170k miles before I started burning a lot of dino juice. My next car will be more eco friendly, but right now I'm enjoying the power. I also have no problem paying higher taxes to subsidize electric car development.

You might not even realize this yourself, but the fact that you chose a 330 horsepower gas guzzler speaks volumes about you really think about the Prius.

[DanG 1]

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You might not even realize this yourself, but the fact that you chose a 330 horsepower gas guzzler speaks volumes about you really think about the Prius.

What is says is that I spend about 2.5 hours in the car every day, like to drive, and got a raise. The Prius was a truly great car, but I wanted a change.

That's pretty much all it says.

- Dan G

[brenthutch 444]

You are not alone.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/apr/09/business/la-fi-polk-hybrid-owners-20120410

[turtlespeed 226]

DanG

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You might not even realize this yourself, but the fact that you chose a 330 horsepower gas guzzler speaks volumes about you really think about the Prius.

What is says is that I spend about 2.5 hours in the car every day, like to drive, and got a raise. The Prius was a truly great car, but I wanted a change.

That's pretty much all it says.

Actually, it pretty much qualifies as hypocrisy.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[DanG 1]

What is hypocritical? I never said people shouldn't be allowed to drive whatever they want. I just don't think that people who drive gas guzzlers should complain about the cost.

I'm dying to know what you think is hypocritical about my choice of car.

- Dan G

[turtlespeed 226]

DanG

What is hypocritical? I never said people shouldn't be allowed to drive whatever they want. I just don't think that people who drive gas guzzlers should complain about the cost.

I'm dying to know what you think is hypocritical about my choice of car.

How very conservative of you.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[CanuckInUSA 0]

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Pussy. I have 330hp and no green button.

Of course, I pushed a Prius for 170k miles before I started burning a lot of dino juice. My next car will be more eco friendly, but right now I'm enjoying the power.

If you really want to enjoy the 330 horses available to you to see what the power can do, you should track your car if you haven't already. I only have 285 horses with my 17 year old vehicle, but I have tracked it, have driven it at my limit and pretty damn close to the car's limit and there is no way in hell you can come close to experiencing what the car can do on the public roads versus what it can do on a race track. One word of warning though, you might actually enjoy it and might just say to yourself "that was just too cool not to do it again". It is an adrenaline rush very similar to the rush one gets from skydiving. My only problem is there is no shortage of Progressives who hate cars and seek to ban all forms of Motorsports. Then again you never see the Volt or the Prius at the track. I have seen a Telsa at the track (I am sure it was blast to drive given all it's torque). But the Tesla driver could only do about 2 stints before he had to run off and recharge his batteries. His loss, not mine. I got more track time. haha

PS: What car is it, this 330 HP beast of yours? Mine is a normally aspirated 1997 Porsche 993C2. I lust for the power of a 911 GT3 RS, but can't really afford one and besides my 911 has been a great car to learn on. Oh and instead of racing my 911, I have gotten into racing a Rotax DD2 Kart. It's more affordable, and believe it or not, I experience close to 3 Gs in the corners in my Kart whereas my car would be lucky to do 1 G in the corners. My Kart is a mini Formula car.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

[rhaig 0]

turtlespeed

How very conservative of you.

Sounds very libertarian of him.

And I think 330bhp might be compensating for something. But hey... as long as it's big enough for you to enjoy it right?

--
Rob

[DanG 1]

I've looked into track days. One reason I haven't done it yet is the hoops I'll have to jump through to get a medical statement (I'm an amputee).

I drive a 2010 Infiniti G37x.

- Dan G

[turtlespeed 226]

DanG

I've looked into track days. One reason I haven't done it yet is the hoops I'll have to jump through to get a medical statement (I'm an amputee).

I drive a 2010 Infiniti G37x.

What did they cut off you?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[DanG 1]

My right arm below the elbow.

- Dan G

[CanuckInUSA 0]

DanG

I've looked into track days. One reason I haven't done it yet is the hoops I'll have to jump through to get a medical statement (I'm an amputee).

I drive a 2010 Infiniti G37x.

That's unfortunate, I see where they are coming from, but still unfortunate that you don't get to experience ripping around a race track at the limit ... the track is a special place. But you always have skydiving.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over