So predictable: Legislators/ Wallstreet/ Stock Markets

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Our legislators are like stock brokers who have insider information and their own stock market accounts. First, they claim the country is going to ruin, they lay people off, don't fund programs to cause pain etc., all while they are shorting the market. Then, 24 hours before they make an announcement that the crisis "might" be solved, they reverse their stock positions, get in low and make out like bandits long before they supply news to the public. The Dow is up $233 as of noon today upon news that a deal is eminent. They knew this several days ago that a deal would be forthcoming. Did you have info like this, that a deal was in the works, prior to you making decisions about your stocks?

You might think you live in a Democracy where your elected officials have your best interest at heart, but in reality they're really tied to wall street and are only worried about their own wallets. Congress: Wall Street Players. Citizens: Mullets

Partly the reason the rich get richer is that they can afford to pay for inside information.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/public-not-privy-to-a-chunk-of-stock-trades/2013/10/09/5853205c-3103-11e3-8627-c5d7de0a046b_story.html

[billvon 3,119]

> First, they claim the country is going to ruin, they lay people off, don't fund programs
>to cause pain etc., all while they are shorting the market. Then, 24 hours before they
>make an announcement that the crisis "might" be solved, they reverse their stock
>positions, get in low and make out like bandits long before they supply news to the
>public. The Dow is up $233 as of noon today upon news that a deal is eminent. They
>knew this several days ago that a deal would be forthcoming. Did you have info like
>this, that a deal was in the works, prior to you making decisions about your stocks?

Hanlon's Razor definitely applies here.

[kallend 2,150]

billvon

> First, they claim the country is going to ruin, they lay people off, don't fund programs
>to cause pain etc., all while they are shorting the market. Then, 24 hours before they
>make an announcement that the crisis "might" be solved, they reverse their stock
>positions, get in low and make out like bandits long before they supply news to the
>public. The Dow is up $233 as of noon today upon news that a deal is eminent. They
>knew this several days ago that a deal would be forthcoming. Did you have info like
>this, that a deal was in the works, prior to you making decisions about your stocks?

Hanlon's Razor definitely applies here.

I don't think so. He is attributing the behavior to greed, not malice.

Ever wonder how Senators and Congressmen get to be so much wealthier than the size of their salaries would suggest?

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kallend

***> First, they claim the country is going to ruin, they lay people off, don't fund programs
>to cause pain etc., all while they are shorting the market. Then, 24 hours before they
>make an announcement that the crisis "might" be solved, they reverse their stock
>positions, get in low and make out like bandits long before they supply news to the
>public. The Dow is up $233 as of noon today upon news that a deal is eminent. They
>knew this several days ago that a deal would be forthcoming. Did you have info like
>this, that a deal was in the works, prior to you making decisions about your stocks?

Hanlon's Razor definitely applies here.

I don't think so. He is attributing the behavior to greed, not malice.

Ever wonder how Senators and Congressmen get to be so much wealthier than the size of their salaries would suggest?

Nope.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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OHCHUTE

Our legislators are like stock brokers who have insider information and their own stock market accounts. First, they claim the country is going to ruin, they lay people off, don't fund programs to cause pain etc., all while they are shorting the market. Then, 24 hours before they make an announcement that the crisis "might" be solved, they reverse their stock positions, get in low and make out like bandits long before they supply news to the public. The Dow is up $233 as of noon today upon news that a deal is eminent. They knew this several days ago that a deal would be forthcoming. Did you have info like this, that a deal was in the works, prior to you making decisions about your stocks?

You might think you live in a Democracy where your elected officials have your best interest at heart, but in reality they're really tied to wall street and are only worried about their own wallets. Congress: Wall Street Players. Citizens: Mullets

Partly the reason the rich get richer is that they can afford to pay for inside information.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/public-not-privy-to-a-chunk-of-stock-trades/2013/10/09/5853205c-3103-11e3-8627-c5d7de0a046b_story.html

the article is about odd lots and has nothing to do with congress. odd lots are not reported to the consolidated tape but are NOT anonymous. they are still reported to FINRA and fully regulated. the author and OP does not understand the financial markets.

I have no idea if Congress is front running legislation and neither does the OP. I will chalk that entire part of his post to his opinion and ignore it. i suggest everyone else does. with that said, there are teams of analyst who measure legislative risk and make market calls on them. there are teams of equity traders who act quickly based on their interpretation of a Pol's words. This causes market fluctuations. nothing odd about that. no different that reacting to an earnings report.

"The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird."
John Frusciante

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weekender

***Our legislators are like stock brokers who have insider information and their own stock market accounts. First, they claim the country is going to ruin, they lay people off, don't fund programs to cause pain etc., all while they are shorting the market. Then, 24 hours before they make an announcement that the crisis "might" be solved, they reverse their stock positions, get in low and make out like bandits long before they supply news to the public. The Dow is up $233 as of noon today upon news that a deal is eminent. They knew this several days ago that a deal would be forthcoming. Did you have info like this, that a deal was in the works, prior to you making decisions about your stocks?

You might think you live in a Democracy where your elected officials have your best interest at heart, but in reality they're really tied to wall street and are only worried about their own wallets. Congress: Wall Street Players. Citizens: Mullets

Partly the reason the rich get richer is that they can afford to pay for inside information.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/public-not-privy-to-a-chunk-of-stock-trades/2013/10/09/5853205c-3103-11e3-8627-c5d7de0a046b_story.html

the article is about odd lots and has nothing to do with congress. odd lots are not reported to the consolidated tape but are NOT anonymous. they are still reported to FINRA and fully regulated. the author and OP does not understand the financial markets.

I have no idea if Congress is front running legislation and neither does the OP. I will chalk that entire part of his post to his opinion and ignore it. i suggest everyone else does. with that said, there are teams of analyst who measure legislative risk and make market calls on them. there are teams of equity traders who act quickly based on their interpretation of a Pol's words. This causes market fluctuations. nothing odd about that. no different that reacting to an earnings report.

You are kidding, that you have no idea about Congress betting prior to decisions made. How much do you pay for the reports?

How can you trust anyone who chooses not to capitalize "i" in the first word of a sentence.

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OHCHUTE

******Our legislators are like stock brokers who have insider information and their own stock market accounts. First, they claim the country is going to ruin, they lay people off, don't fund programs to cause pain etc., all while they are shorting the market. Then, 24 hours before they make an announcement that the crisis "might" be solved, they reverse their stock positions, get in low and make out like bandits long before they supply news to the public. The Dow is up $233 as of noon today upon news that a deal is eminent. They knew this several days ago that a deal would be forthcoming. Did you have info like this, that a deal was in the works, prior to you making decisions about your stocks?

You might think you live in a Democracy where your elected officials have your best interest at heart, but in reality they're really tied to wall street and are only worried about their own wallets. Congress: Wall Street Players. Citizens: Mullets

Partly the reason the rich get richer is that they can afford to pay for inside information.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/public-not-privy-to-a-chunk-of-stock-trades/2013/10/09/5853205c-3103-11e3-8627-c5d7de0a046b_story.html

the article is about odd lots and has nothing to do with congress. odd lots are not reported to the consolidated tape but are NOT anonymous. they are still reported to FINRA and fully regulated. the author and OP does not understand the financial markets.

I have no idea if Congress is front running legislation and neither does the OP. I will chalk that entire part of his post to his opinion and ignore it. i suggest everyone else does. with that said, there are teams of analyst who measure legislative risk and make market calls on them. there are teams of equity traders who act quickly based on their interpretation of a Pol's words. This causes market fluctuations. nothing odd about that. no different that reacting to an earnings report.

You are kidding, that you have no idea about Congress betting prior to decisions made. How much do you pay for the reports?

How can you trust anyone who chooses not to capitalize "i" in the first word of a sentence.

Ummm...


*dresses in foil*

It makes more sense now.

So the congress knows they are working out a deal.

They run out and buy up tons of stock low...but all in odd lots...which avoids nothing as far as actual tracking goes....

Then they release the information, sell the stocks when prices rise, and make out like bandits.



Makes perfect sense to me.


Crazy there aren't some sort of regulations, and checks/balances put in place for that kinda stuff.

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Bignugget

*********Our legislators are like stock brokers who have insider information and their own stock market accounts. First, they claim the country is going to ruin, they lay people off, don't fund programs to cause pain etc., all while they are shorting the market. Then, 24 hours before they make an announcement that the crisis "might" be solved, they reverse their stock positions, get in low and make out like bandits long before they supply news to the public. The Dow is up $233 as of noon today upon news that a deal is eminent. They knew this several days ago that a deal would be forthcoming. Did you have info like this, that a deal was in the works, prior to you making decisions about your stocks?

You might think you live in a Democracy where your elected officials have your best interest at heart, but in reality they're really tied to wall street and are only worried about their own wallets. Congress: Wall Street Players. Citizens: Mullets

Partly the reason the rich get richer is that they can afford to pay for inside information.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/public-not-privy-to-a-chunk-of-stock-trades/2013/10/09/5853205c-3103-11e3-8627-c5d7de0a046b_story.html

the article is about odd lots and has nothing to do with congress. odd lots are not reported to the consolidated tape but are NOT anonymous. they are still reported to FINRA and fully regulated. the author and OP does not understand the financial markets.

I have no idea if Congress is front running legislation and neither does the OP. I will chalk that entire part of his post to his opinion and ignore it. i suggest everyone else does. with that said, there are teams of analyst who measure legislative risk and make market calls on them. there are teams of equity traders who act quickly based on their interpretation of a Pol's words. This causes market fluctuations. nothing odd about that. no different that reacting to an earnings report.

You are kidding, that you have no idea about Congress betting prior to decisions made. How much do you pay for the reports?

How can you trust anyone who chooses not to capitalize "i" in the first word of a sentence.

Ummm...


*dresses in foil*

It makes more sense now.

So the congress knows they are working out a deal.

They run out and buy up tons of stock low...but all in odd lots...which avoids nothing as far as actual tracking goes....

Then they release the information, sell the stocks when prices rise, and make out like bandits.



Makes perfect sense to me.


Crazy there aren't some sort of regulations, and checks/balances put in place for that kinda stuff.

Yea, i was thinking the same thing. if only there were laws in place to prevent it. and gov't and private regulators to enforce the laws and rules.

Also, it would help if every transaction was reported and archived for seven years. if trades could only be transacted by licensed, bonded and fingerprinted traders in a recognized and monitored exchange. if every trader had to give up the person the transaction was for and then have the trade cleared by a central independently monitored clearing house.

We could only dream of such checks and balances i suppose. untill then we have to watch our congress members day trade the news getting rich why we suffer.

"The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird."
John Frusciante

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OHCHUTE

******Our legislators are like stock brokers who have insider information and their own stock market accounts. First, they claim the country is going to ruin, they lay people off, don't fund programs to cause pain etc., all while they are shorting the market. Then, 24 hours before they make an announcement that the crisis "might" be solved, they reverse their stock positions, get in low and make out like bandits long before they supply news to the public. The Dow is up $233 as of noon today upon news that a deal is eminent. They knew this several days ago that a deal would be forthcoming. Did you have info like this, that a deal was in the works, prior to you making decisions about your stocks?

You might think you live in a Democracy where your elected officials have your best interest at heart, but in reality they're really tied to wall street and are only worried about their own wallets. Congress: Wall Street Players. Citizens: Mullets

Partly the reason the rich get richer is that they can afford to pay for inside information.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/public-not-privy-to-a-chunk-of-stock-trades/2013/10/09/5853205c-3103-11e3-8627-c5d7de0a046b_story.html

the article is about odd lots and has nothing to do with congress. odd lots are not reported to the consolidated tape but are NOT anonymous. they are still reported to FINRA and fully regulated. the author and OP does not understand the financial markets.

I have no idea if Congress is front running legislation and neither does the OP. I will chalk that entire part of his post to his opinion and ignore it. i suggest everyone else does. with that said, there are teams of analyst who measure legislative risk and make market calls on them. there are teams of equity traders who act quickly based on their interpretation of a Pol's words. This causes market fluctuations. nothing odd about that. no different that reacting to an earnings report.

You are kidding, that you have no idea about Congress betting prior to decisions made. How much do you pay for the reports?

How can you trust anyone who chooses not to capitalize "i" in the first word of a sentence.

why would i be kidding? i have no more knowledge of congress being involved in illegal trade activity than you do. the only evidence you give is from your imagination.

what do i pay? nothing. i work for a bank, we charge for them. you can buy them from me if you would like. i would expect about 250k USD's from you over the next 12 months for limited access. Also, you need at least a billion USD's under management or if you turn over your portfolio 200x a year a little less. Otherwise your not worth my time.

a little help. the DOW is an index and NOT quoted in dollars. you probably didnt know that because you do not understand the financial markets. you got that for free because its friday.

"The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird."
John Frusciante

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Separate paragraphs in my post represent different ideas. You've assume wrong that Congress people deal specifically with odd lot trades by your interpretations. The paragraphs represent different ideas. Many rich people are not Congresspeople. There are multiple aspects to insider information, not just odd lots etc.

So your fee is $250,000 for access to a large percentage of the market trading information that is unavailable to the general public? Pretty much proves my point. So the odd lot, buyers (mullets) pave the way for the rich guys (your clients) to see and learn trends, that the mullets only suspect is happening via watching Cramer, TV etc.
Buying your reports provides a distinct advantage IMHO when doing multibillion dollar millisecond trading. The reason the Feds are working to make it more transparent. Guess you're worried your reports will be worthless once they are free for everyone to see trading trends.

This is the typically BS we get from banks. They keep people in the dark to mask their crimes, greed etc.

So tell us, since you don't pay $250,000 for the information yourself, do you take a sneak peek prior to doing your own trading?

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OHCHUTE

Separate paragraphs in my post represent different ideas. You've assume wrong that Congress people deal specifically with odd lot trades by your interpretations. The paragraphs represent different ideas. Many rich people are not Congresspeople. There are multiple aspects to insider information, not just odd lots etc.

So your fee is $250,000 for access to a large percentage of the market trading information that is unavailable to the general public? Pretty much proves my point. So the odd lot, buyers (mullets) pave the way for the rich guys (your clients) to see and learn trends, that the mullets only suspect is happening via watching Cramer, TV etc.
Buying your reports provides a distinct advantage IMHO when doing multibillion dollar millisecond trading. The reason the Feds are working to make it more transparent. Guess you're worried your reports will be worthless once they are free for everyone to see trading trends.

This is the typically BS we get from banks. They keep people in the dark to mask their crimes, greed etc.

So tell us, since you don't pay $250,000 for the information yourself, do you take a sneak peek prior to doing your own trading?

the written part of your post is about congress. the link is about odd lots. i addressed both separately.

actually, by law our our reports are published free of charge for all to see. you didnt know that because you do not understand the financial markets. you pay for us to explain it to you. But they are all there, published and free.

your odd lot comment makes no sense whatsoever. I trade odd lots all the time. everyone does. not every trade is exactly 100 shares. you didnt know that because you do not understand finance.

no i do not take a peek. i do not write it, analyst do. i cannot see it till its published and accessible to the public. you didnt know that because you do not understand finance.

i do not know what you do for a living but you should find another topic. one that you understand. or find another forum, one where no one else understands. you would sound less foolish.

so to recap. everyone trades odd lots, they are reported to FINRA but not the tape. research is public and free for all to read. advice is not. an most importantly, you didnt know that because you do not understand finance.

"The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird."
John Frusciante

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First you charge $250K now you say its free. You don't understand the first word of sentence needs capitalized so how could you know anything about where to put a period, let alone a decimal point?

Better go back to shredding all that bank ponzi toxic debt that the public has forgotten about that has been conveniently swept under the rug with new bankster balance sheets.

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OHCHUTE

First you charge $250K now you say its free. You don't understand the first word of sentence needs capitalized so how could you know anything about where to put a period, let alone a decimal point?

Better go back to shredding all that bank ponzi toxic debt that the public has forgotten about that has been conveniently swept under the rug with new bankster balance sheets.

i dont understand why you keep repeating something that is so easily proven wrong. all the banks make public filings. all their debt is right there on the 10k's. anyone can see it, its not swept under the rug. its in plain sight.

normally i would say you didnt know that because you dont understand finance. but ive repeatably shown you this. so its obvious you are just not all there.

i am be playing chess with a pigeon.

"The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird."
John Frusciante

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weekender

***First you charge $250K now you say its free. You don't understand the first word of sentence needs capitalized so how could you know anything about where to put a period, let alone a decimal point?

Better go back to shredding all that bank ponzi toxic debt that the public has forgotten about that has been conveniently swept under the rug with new bankster balance sheets.

i dont understand why you keep repeating something that is so easily proven wrong. .


You don't read a lot of OHCHUTE postings.....right?

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weekender

***First you charge $250K now you say its free. You don't understand the first word of sentence needs capitalized so how could you know anything about where to put a period, let alone a decimal point?

Better go back to shredding all that bank ponzi toxic debt that the public has forgotten about that has been conveniently swept under the rug with new bankster balance sheets.

i dont understand why you keep repeating something that is so easily proven wrong. all the banks make public filings. all their debt is right there on the 10k's. anyone can see it, its not swept under the rug. its in plain sight.

normally i would say you didnt know that because you dont understand finance. but ive repeatably shown you this. so its obvious you are just not all there.

i am be playing chess with a pigeon.


You seem so small and insignificant when you refer to yourself utilizing a lower case "i".

You don't have a clue.

Debt is gone.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-us-fiat-dollar-ponzi-scheme-digital-money-used-to-purchase-toxic-assets-from-the-too-big-to-fail-global-banks/5336990

http://www.activistpost.com/2012/09/qe-infinity-fed-buying-more-toxic.html