The votes are now there to reopen the government

[billvon 3,132]

Just have to get Congress to do its job. From CNN:

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CNN

Votes are there to break shutdown, but not the will
Updated 10/9/2013 at 8:00 a.m.

Washington (CNN) – There appeared to be enough votes in the House on Wednesday to approve legislation to reopen the federal government, according to an ongoing CNN survey of House members.

All 200 Democrats and 19 Republicans support passing a continuing resolution with no additional legislative strings attached that would reopen the federal government, which has been partially closed for a week over a bitter policy dispute between Republicans and Democrats on health care. With three vacancies in 435 member House, 217 votes are currently the minimum needed for the measure to win approval in the House.

CNN's vote count appears to bear out what President Barack Obama said on Monday.

"The truth of the matter is, there are enough Republican and Democratic votes in the House of Representatives right now to end this shutdown immediately with no partisan strings attached," Obama said.

But this does not mean a vote will happen any time soon, given that these Republicans have not indicated a willingness to try to force Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, to bring a continuing resolution with no strings attached to the floor for a vote. After a meeting with Republicans on Tuesday, Republican Rep. Tom Cole of Oklahoma told CNN that the speaker told members there would not be a House vote on a "clean" government funding bill.
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billvon

Just have to get Congress to do its job. From CNN:

remember - this is all the Democrat's fault. somehow.

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billvon

All 200 Democrats and 19 Republicans support passing a continuing resolution with no additional legislative strings attached that would reopen the federal government, which has been partially closed for a week over a bitter policy dispute between Republicans and Democrats on health care. With three vacancies in 435 member House, 217 votes are currently the minimum needed for the measure to win approval in the House.

If Boehner had been sharp, he could have embarrassed the Democrats by calling the vote for yesterday afternoon when 8 Democrats were unable to vote because they were rotting in jail:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/08/house-democrats-arrested-immigration_n_4066253.html

If the numbers are correct the vote would have been:

Yea--200 Democrats + 19 Republicans - 8 Democrats rotting in jail = 211 votes

Nay--232 Republicans in total - 19 Republicans opposed = 213 votes

"It's hard to have fun at 4-way unless your whole team gets down to the ground safely to do it again!"--Northern California Skydiving League re USPA Safety Day, March 8, 2014

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" . . . . immediately with no partisan strings attached," Obama said.

BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Right.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[billvon 3,132]

>If Boehner had been sharp, he could have embarrassed the Democrats by calling the
>vote for yesterday afternoon when 8 Democrats were unable to vote because they
>were rotting in jail:

Agreed. He could have accomplished two things:

1) Embarrassed the democrats
2) Looked like he was the one who was willing to compromise while still not passing the bill

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SivaGanesha

***All 200 Democrats and 19 Republicans support passing a continuing resolution with no additional legislative strings attached that would reopen the federal government, which has been partially closed for a week over a bitter policy dispute between Republicans and Democrats on health care. With three vacancies in 435 member House, 217 votes are currently the minimum needed for the measure to win approval in the House.

If Boehner had been sharp, he could have embarrassed the Democrats by calling the vote for yesterday afternoon when 8 Democrats were unable to vote because they were rotting in jail:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/08/house-democrats-arrested-immigration_n_4066253.html

If the numbers are correct the vote would have been:

Yea--200 Democrats + 19 Republicans - 8 Democrats rotting in jail = 211 votes

Nay--232 Republicans in total - 19 Republicans opposed = 213 votes

Why stoop to the level of the liberals?

I would rather he did not, and remain more honorable.

I think it shows to the mind sets of the liberals if they think he should have done that. Just Sayin'.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[billvon 3,132]

Serious question here -

Do you want to see this shutdown ended?

[JohnnyMarko 1]

>Serious question here -

>Do you want to see this shutdown ended?

I haven't noticed a difference so I don't really care

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Quote

I haven't noticed a difference so I don't really care

Remember that....

[JohnnyMarko 1]

BigMikeH77

Quote

I haven't noticed a difference so I don't really care

Remember that....

I will

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billvon

Serious question here -

Do you want to see this shutdown ended?

Eventually, yes.

At this point I call it "Fighting the good fight."

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[billvon 3,132]

>At this point I call it "Fighting the good fight."

"Good fight" -

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Shutdown hits the most vulnerable the hardest
Kevin Fagan
Updated 10:48 pm, Saturday, October 5, 2013

Kids going hungry at school. Families missing meals at home. Homeless people left on the street. Meal deliveries for the elderly canceled. Military veterans going penniless and getting evicted.

These are just a few of the hammer blows that could fall upon the poor if the federal government's partial shutdown spills into November, according to managers of public assistance programs throughout the Bay Area. And in small ways, some of these blows have already begun to hit.
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Shutdown Denies Death and Burial Benefits to Families of 4 Dead Soldiers
By JENNIFER STEINHAUER
Published: October 8, 2013

WASHINGTON — The families of four soldiers killed in Afghanistan last weekend will not receive death benefits or the money to pay for their funerals because of the government shutdown.
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What brave souls those GOP representatives are, sacrificing so much for their political cause.

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hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/08/applying-government-shutdown-logic-to-the-baseball-playoffs/screen-shot-2013-10-08-at-11-59-41-am/

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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billvon

What brave souls those GOP representatives are, sacrificing so much for their political cause.

http://www.sfgate.com/default/article/No-new-craft-beers-during-shutdown-4883158.php

They'll even give up beer for their cause! (fuckers)

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kelpdiver

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What brave souls those GOP representatives are, sacrificing so much for their political cause.

http://www.sfgate.com/default/article/No-new-craft-beers-during-shutdown-4883158.php

They'll even give up beer for their cause! (fuckers)

Meh - there are enough already.

If you want even more variety, make your own.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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turtlespeed

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What brave souls those GOP representatives are, sacrificing so much for their political cause.

http://www.sfgate.com/default/article/No-new-craft-beers-during-shutdown-4883158.php

They'll even give up beer for their cause! (fuckers)

Meh - there are enough already.

If you want even more variety, make your own.

BLASPHEMY!!!! There is NEVER enough variety of beer!!!

I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1

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lummy

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What brave souls those GOP representatives are, sacrificing so much for their political cause.

http://www.sfgate.com/default/article/No-new-craft-beers-during-shutdown-4883158.php

They'll even give up beer for their cause! (fuckers)

Meh - there are enough already.

If you want even more variety, make your own.

BLASPHEMY!!!! There is NEVER enough variety of beer!!!

Well my first ever "Turtlespeed Original Recipe" Is due to be put in the fridge tomorrow Night. Saturday I'll have a taste. But I like to let it chill for a solid 3 days to a week Next weekend will be good. . . . I hope.

Not sure if the brown sugar I added to the malt was a mistake of not.
Also - Clove Powder, all spice, and nut meg, added to this basic recipe, tweaked to my taste,

9lbs 2-Row (used 10)
.75lb Crystal Malt(40L)
.6lb Belgian Choc Malt
.5tsp Gypsum (Adjusting mash ph)(Used .25)
1 oz Northern Brewer (Alpha=10.0) 60 min boil
.5 oz Cascade 15 min boil
.25 oz Cascade Dryhop (upon transfer to secondary)
Wyeast 1028

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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turtlespeed

Meh - there are enough already.

If you want even more variety, make your own.

that's an inefficient use of my time. I can happily pay others to make beer and wine for me.

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billvon

Shutdown hits the most vulnerable the hardest
.

what do you expect???

This (and high profile pain) is what Obama is going for

and as expected, many are falling for his shenanigans

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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rushmc

***
Shutdown hits the most vulnerable the hardest
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what do you expect???

This (and high profile pain) is what Obama is going for

and as expected, many are falling for his shenanigans

This is exactly what the lamestream, lib media wants people to think.

As expected the dumbest of them fall for it.

[billvon 3,132]

>This (and high profile pain) is what Obama is going for

Uh - no. See above. Per Turtlespeed this pain is called "fighting the good fight."

You have a spin disconnect problem.

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billvon

>This (and high profile pain) is what Obama is going for

Uh - no. See above. Per Turtlespeed this pain is called "fighting the good fight."

You have a spin disconnect problem.

OOOoooohhhhhh
So the report of him knowing about, and then holding the death benifit money for fallin soldiers families was not true?

And if it is true (which it is) then he used soldiers families to fight the good fight (as you put it) Great! I get it

Or, using national park officiers to close state highway pull offs too? (which they have no authority to do)

Seem reasonalbe to you?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,175]

I gather that South Dakota ranchers, who initially were all in favor of the GOP forcing a government shutdown, are now pissed because they aren't getting government help after the massive storm.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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kallend

I gather that South Dakota ranchers, who initially were all in favor of the GOP forcing a government shutdown, are now pissed because they aren't getting government help after the massive storm.

Fearing the worst, they're saying defaulting, due to not raising the debt limit, won't effect US credit rating.