C-27J Spartans - From the factory to the Tucson boneyard

[ryoder 1,590]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/10/07/new-air-force-cargo-planes-fly-straight-into-mothballs/

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[airdvr 210]

Door!

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[normiss 897]

I'm personally not ok with this.

We have at some point GOT to stop burning our money faster than we print it.

[rickjump1 0]

ryoder

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/10/07/new-air-force-cargo-planes-fly-straight-into-mothballs/

Must be a bunch of old women running the Air Force. At one time, they wanted to get rid of the A-10's. They went to a lot of trouble to keep the Army out of the fixed-wing business, but tried to pawn off the A-10's to them (bet they're glad that never happened). Maybe it's the generals who get the contracts, retire, and go to work for the contractor....or maybe it's the politicians that do the same thing. Makes you wonder if any of these "kids" ever balanced a checkbook. We already know their commander-in-chief never did.

Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

[swisschris62 0]

Davis is government waste at its finest.
A huge desert piece of land surrounded by a fence with acres of rusty junk laying around. Aside from the rusty junk is nearly anything that's big, that a base wants to get rid of...goes to Davis. Lots of it was never used.
I've brought in countless truck loads of crap. My most recent trip there was myself along with 14 other trucks brought them a set of temporary bleachers that were never used. They sat around taking up building space till someone decided they needed the building. 2000 miles later the bleachers arrived at Davis. This stuff probably should have gone to the local scrap yard and everyone would have saved money.
To send 15 trucks, 2000 miles to put something in a desert is a waste.
Then when stuff gets there it gets inventoried, catalogued, and protected forever and ever.
I've also always felt that these civilian guys working there had the easiest jobs in the world. They could easily get by on half the work force there and it takes a minimum of 3 people to get even the smallest of tasks completed.
Some of the waste I see is mind blowing, buildings they build that they decide in mid construction aren't quite good enough and build another bigger building right next door is another good one I seen not to long ago.
I'm sure what I see is just a tiny bit of what's going on every day.

[wmw999 2,588]

The government and its agencies are always open to criticism (it's in our blood as citizens to do so). Unfortunately, making oneself as criticism-proof as possible is expensive, which leads to the (accurate) criticism of being wasteful.

There isn't a good answer; it's not as though waste or inefficiency were good. But organizations, and the people who work for them, want to be able to feel good about where they work and what they do.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[OHCHUTE 0]

wmw999

The government and its agencies are always open to criticism (it's in our blood as citizens to do so). Unfortunately, making oneself as criticism-proof as possible is expensive, which leads to the (accurate) criticism of being wasteful.

There isn't a good answer; it's not as though waste or inefficiency were good. But organizations, and the people who work for them, want to be able to feel good about where they work and what they do.

Wendy P.

A friend of mine was a auditor at GAO. He came up with billions of waste and reported it. Never heard anything about it. Then he said: even paying me to find the waste, was too a waste as nothing was ever done about the waste. It's now out of control

Plane looks like it might make a good jump plane:

Can you buy this mothballed stuff?

[turtlespeed 226]

wmw999

The government and its agencies are always open to criticism (it's in our blood as citizens to do so). Unfortunately, making oneself as criticism-proof as possible is expensive, which leads to the (accurate) criticism of being wasteful.

There isn't a good answer; it's not as though waste or inefficiency were good. But organizations, and the people who work for them, want to be able to feel good about where they work and what they do.

Wendy P.

Looks like we are stuck with them, for now at least, unless you want a plane you can't get parts for.
http://www.defensenews.com/article/20120227/DEFREG02/302270007/Alenia-Warns-U-S-Over-C-27J-Sales

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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