Stumpy 284 #101 September 17, 2013 Gravitymaster It's left wingers like you who believe only law enforcement should be armed. You clearly don't understand anything you read. a. Not left wing. In the countries where I can vote, probably actually described as the opposite. b. Not what i believe at all. However, please continue your ignorance. it gives me a good laugh.Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #102 September 17, 2013 rushmcThere I went for it Sadly, your "facts" don't hold up to history. http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/worst-u-s-shootings-timeline/index.html The fact is, mass gun violence has been accelerating.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #103 September 17, 2013 QuoteOtherwise, I'm packing. With the hopes of nailing one of them before he clips me. Am I ever happy I can live in a great city where I don't have to live in constant fear of loonies with guns. Makes you wonder what freedom truly is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 858 #104 September 17, 2013 I don't believe anything CNN says. Their record on truth and honesty is laughable at best. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #105 September 17, 2013 SkyDekker Quote Otherwise, I'm packing. With the hopes of nailing one of them before he clips me. Am I ever happy I can live in a great city where I don't have to live in constant fear of loonies with guns. Makes you wonder what freedom truly is. Me too. Now earthquakes on the other hand are proving to be somewhat of a nuisance. Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 858 #106 September 17, 2013 I agree. I'm not living in fear. Doesn't mean I don't want tools available to me should I need them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #107 September 17, 2013 GravitymasterWhy are you limiting it to 2 years. Oh, never mind. Just more obfuscation on your part. OK, 5 years, 10 years... Which western nation has had more mass shootings in that time?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #108 September 17, 2013 Gravitymaster******I'd like to know how this guy was able to buy a gun. http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_NAVY_YARD_SHOOTING_GUNMAN_MENTAL_HEALTH?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-09-17-08-03-32 Easy - because people like YOU oppose making background checks truly effective. MAJOR BULLSHIT!! I have never been opposed to keeping guns out of the hands of the mentally ill. LIP SERVICE ONLY. You oppose tightening the background checks.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #109 September 17, 2013 normissI don't believe anything CNN says. Their record on truth and honesty is laughable at best. So, you believe CNN is "faking" the dates and histories of these shootings? Gee if only there was some sort of magic box you could use to check.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #110 September 17, 2013 masterrigI still feel that if guns are taken away from law abiding citizens... Chuck Apparently Mr. Alexis had never been convicted of anything, so he WAS a law abiding citizen, right up until the instant of his death. Ask Turtlespeed. However, he WAS Texan.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 858 #111 September 17, 2013 Clearly there is. Mine doesn't include a dishonest and race baiting organization. YMMV. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #112 September 17, 2013 kallend ***Why are you limiting it to 2 years. Oh, never mind. Just more obfuscation on your part. OK, 5 years, 10 years... Which western nation has had more mass shootings in that time? Oh, now it's a Western Nation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #113 September 17, 2013 Stumpy*** It's left wingers like you who believe only law enforcement should be armed. You clearly don't understand anything you read. a. Not left wing. In the countries where I can vote, probably actually described as the opposite. b. Not what i believe at all. However, please continue your ignorance. it gives me a good laugh. That's normally what someone with no response has to say. Thanks for the confirmation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #114 September 17, 2013 Gravitymaster ****** It's left wingers like you who believe only law enforcement should be armed. You clearly don't understand anything you read. a. Not left wing. In the countries where I can vote, probably actually described as the opposite. b. Not what i believe at all. However, please continue your ignorance. it gives me a good laugh. That's normally what someone with no response has to say. Thanks for the confirmation. Keep diggingNever try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #115 September 17, 2013 kallend*********I'd like to know how this guy was able to buy a gun. http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_NAVY_YARD_SHOOTING_GUNMAN_MENTAL_HEALTH?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-09-17-08-03-32 Easy - because people like YOU oppose making background checks truly effective. MAJOR BULLSHIT!! I have never been opposed to keeping guns out of the hands of the mentally ill. LIP SERVICE ONLY. You oppose tightening the background checks. I support keeping guns out of the hands of the mentally ill. This guy had been known to have mental problems. I hope we can use this as an opportunity to find out how he slipped through the cracks and what needs to be done to correct that failure, not as an opportunity to assign blame as you seem bent on doing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #116 September 17, 2013 However, he WAS Texan. NO! He just lived here! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #117 September 17, 2013 Stumpy ********* It's left wingers like you who believe only law enforcement should be armed. You clearly don't understand anything you read. a. Not left wing. In the countries where I can vote, probably actually described as the opposite. b. Not what i believe at all. However, please continue your ignorance. it gives me a good laugh. That's normally what someone with no response has to say. Thanks for the confirmation. Keep digging Keep confirming. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 858 #118 September 17, 2013 Just like Texas toilet paper! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devildog 0 #119 September 17, 2013 kallend ***I still feel that if guns are taken away from law abiding citizens... Chuck Apparently Mr. Alexis had never been convicted of anything, so he WAS a law abiding citizen, right up until the instant of his death. Ask Turtlespeed. However, he WAS Texan. http://spdblotter.seattle.gov/2013/09/16/suspect-in-navy-yard-attack-previously-arrested-in-seattle-for-anger-fueled-shooting/ Law abiding, except for the whole shooting out the tires of cars in 2004 You stop breathing for a few minutes and everyone jumps to conclusions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #120 September 17, 2013 It's also being reported he was hearing voices. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #121 September 17, 2013 ***Just like Texas toilet paper![/quote Yup! Rough, tough and don't take shit off nobody! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #122 September 17, 2013 devildog ******I still feel that if guns are taken away from law abiding citizens... Chuck Apparently Mr. Alexis had never been convicted of anything, so he WAS a law abiding citizen, right up until the instant of his death. Ask Turtlespeed. However, he WAS Texan. http://spdblotter.seattle.gov/2013/09/16/suspect-in-navy-yard-attack-previously-arrested-in-seattle-for-anger-fueled-shooting/ Law abiding, except for the whole shooting out the tires of cars in 2004 He wasn't tried and or convicted of a crime. I believe, from what I've been told, a person is innocent till proven guilty. Seems as though, over the years, that has taken a 180. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OHCHUTE 0 #123 September 17, 2013 He was seeing a shrink. He could have stolen the gun which makes any conversation about gun ownership moot. AGAIN; the problem is access control. There was no access control and the perp entered the building with a shit pile of guns. The only way to stop lone wolf attackers is via access control. No one, not even the commander of the base gets in without a solid bag check. Also, at the military gun range, huge steps need to be taken to ensure a person on the firing line doesn't turn and start mowing down other people. You've seen decorated vets get murdered by people they were trying to help while at the range. I"m getting more observant of others while on the firing line or in the woods hunting. Nutjobs can pop up anywhere. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #124 September 17, 2013 GravitymasterIt's also being reported he was hearing voices. Thankfully I live in a country where it is much harder for nutcases to get their hands on firearms. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devildog 0 #125 September 17, 2013 masterrig *********I still feel that if guns are taken away from law abiding citizens... Chuck Apparently Mr. Alexis had never been convicted of anything, so he WAS a law abiding citizen, right up until the instant of his death. Ask Turtlespeed. However, he WAS Texan. http://spdblotter.seattle.gov/2013/09/16/suspect-in-navy-yard-attack-previously-arrested-in-seattle-for-anger-fueled-shooting/ Law abiding, except for the whole shooting out the tires of cars in 2004 He wasn't tried and or convicted of a crime. I believe, from what I've been told, a person is innocent till proven guilty. Seems as though, over the years, that has taken a 180. Chuck I didn't say he was convicted or a criminal. There are plenty of ways you can not abide by the law and still not not be tried or sentenced. But I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that in Seattle, its not abiding by the law if you shoot out car tires in a parking lot.You stop breathing for a few minutes and everyone jumps to conclusions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites