Putin takes BHO to the woodshed

[Skyrad 0]

yoink

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the USA is on a downward spiral and its only a matter of time before the dollar crashes.

What are you basing that fiction on?

The increasing number of jobs, better than expected economic growth and increased international trade?

I'm not saying the US is great by any standards, but your statement is just ridiculous. You should write for The Sun with that level of fantasy and hyperbole.

Russia, China, Iran and Syria & India are no longer trading oil in the US dollar and its just a matter of time before other countries follow their lead. Without the Petrodollar the USA is screwed.

http://www.usdebtclock.org

US national debt has been growing at $1.94 billion per day since September 30, 2012. Its a debt that can never be paid back and its only a matter of time before those that lend the USA money decide to raise the interest rates then hyperinflation and dollar crash hello.

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[OHCHUTE 0]

It's a fake economy propped up by Wall Street financial firms and banks. Most of the financing is arranged so that the few get all the money. One percent made twenty percent of all the money last year. Middle class is strapped and will most likely disappear in the coming decade especially when the boomers end up with multiple chronic illnesses. Goodbye. Hello nursing home.

[kelpdiver 2]

Skyrad

Russia, China, Iran and Syria & India are no longer trading oil in the US dollar and its just a matter of time before other countries follow their lead.

this was a pretty fashionable belief prior to the crash. The future of the euro is still in doubt, though not as bleak as it looked two years ago.

as bad as the dollar looks, the alternatives are worse.

[Gravitymaster 0]

Here's where we are. Assad uses CW's on his people. O's loses it and threatens missile strikes. Putin steps in and proposes Assad turn over his CW's. O needs a way out because of his statements about a Red Line and his need to look tough, so O accepts but then continues supplying Al Qaeda with weapons. Assad says the deal is contingent on O cutting off the weapons sales to AQ. This puts O in check and he has to agree because he knows he doesn't have support for the missile strikes. So, Assad gets away with using CW's, get Putting to help him force O to stop weapons sales, and Assad gets away with using the CW's. Checkmate. Perfect.......

[billvon 3,120]

>But, I fear you are right on target.

Did you believe all of Kruschev's speeches about how evil America was during the 1960's as well?

[lawrocket 3]

billvon

>But, I fear you are right on target.

Did you believe all of Kruschev's speeches about how evil America was during the 1960's as well?

No. We had Ike as President. We knew that the Russians were communists and we hated the communists. If Kruschev is slapping his shoe on a podium, hey, he's a Commie and if he hates us we're doing something right.

Nowadays? I DO think that America was exceptional. Americans did, too. Now what do Americans think of themselves? Since half of Americans seems to consist of people feeling sorry for themselves and demanding more from others and less from themselves, I'm afraid America, while still exceptional, is largely moving to mediocrity.

Kruschev could say what he wanted and it was all bullshit. Putin just had a little too much that hit close to home. Take a look at MLK's "I have a Dream" speech. Look at the crowd then. And look at the crowd now. The average body mass index tells where we are.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[Arvoitus 1]

I hate the language that is used in that article. Its too obviously sucking up to the average american, stuff like:

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We are all different, but when we ask for the Lord’s blessings, we must not forget that God created us equal.

Like that atheist commie bastard cares about God.

Besides it was probably written by a U.S. based PR firm.

Your rights end where my feelings begin.

[RonD1120 62]

Arvoitus

I hate the language that is used in that article. Its too obviously sucking up to the average american, stuff like:

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We are all different, but when we ask for the Lord’s blessings, we must not forget that God created us equal.

Like that atheist commie bastard cares about God.

Besides it was probably written by a U.S. based PR firm.

The fact that Putin has an American agent tells it all. That would never have been possible before 1980.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[RonD1120 62]

billvon

>But, I fear you are right on target.

Did you believe all of Kruschev's speeches about how evil America was during the 1960's as well?

Not relevant, Putin's message wasn't America is evil. It was BHO is incompetent and floundering, about to violate international law.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[rushmc 23]

Gravitymaster

Here's where we are. Assad uses CW's on his people. O's loses it and threatens missile strikes. Putin steps in and proposes Assad turn over his CW's. O needs a way out because of his statements about a Red Line and his need to look tough, so O accepts but then continues supplying Al Qaeda with weapons. Assad says the deal is contingent on O cutting off the weapons sales to AQ. This puts O in check and he has to agree because he knows he doesn't have support for the missile strikes. So, Assad gets away with using CW's, get Putting to help him force O to stop weapons sales, and Assad gets away with using the CW's. Checkmate. Perfect.......

Actually Kerry sugested that Assad turn over his weapons (off handedly)
Then the WH and State Dept tried to walk it back
THEN Putin jumped on it
Now the WH is trying to say they were talking to Russia before Kerry's gaff and leave the image that Obama was a brilliant stratagist

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[weekender 0]

>"Russia, China, Iran and Syria & India are no longer trading oil in the US dollar and its just a matter of time before other countries follow their lead. Without the Petrodollar the USA is screwed."



That is not entirely true and a bit misleading. Many nations sell their oil in local currencies, including the British for North Sea exports. That is not odd at all. They still trade their futures and purchase in other local spot markets in the dollar. OPEC oil is sold in USD's as is our exports, which sets the standard for the world markets. All the countries you named still actively trade oil in US dollars as it is still a standard for the major world markets.

It would be more accurate to say that many nations no longer export in dollars. this is true but not as dire for the USA as your implying.

"The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird."
John Frusciante

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kelpdiver

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Russia, China, Iran and Syria & India are no longer trading oil in the US dollar and its just a matter of time before other countries follow their lead.

this was a pretty fashionable belief prior to the crash. The future of the euro is still in doubt, though not as bleak as it looked two years ago.

as bad as the dollar looks, the alternatives are worse.

It may have been a fashionable belief but now it is a reality. The countries listed above are all dealing in oil not using the dollar and we're talking about some massive sums of money. The dollar was only 'underwritten' by the petrodollar after Nixon unlinked it from gold. Interestingly enough I saw this today:

http://rt.com/op-edge/china-control-world-currency-707/

I'd give the USA less then five years before the dollar collapse and actually think it will be much more rapid then that. I'm not hoping that is the case far from it, Sterling won't survive and the Euro is barely breathing as it is. I'm thinking the Yuan is the next big thing.

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[Skyrad 0]

America has a very large and exceptionally well equipped military but I'm curious in what other ways do you think that the USA is still exceptional?

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Skyrad

America has a very large and exceptionally well equipped military but I'm curious in what other ways do you think that the USA is still exceptional?

It's ability to spin anything horrific and bad to try to make Obama look good.

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Skyrad

America has a very large and exceptionally well equipped military but I'm curious in what other ways do you think that the USA is still exceptional?

McDonalds and Coca Cola.

I rest my case.

[masterblaster72 0]

Skyrad

America has a very large and exceptionally well equipped military but I'm curious in what other ways do you think that the USA is still exceptional?

Our football teams are world champions -- every year.

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

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Skyrad

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Russia, China, Iran and Syria & India are no longer trading oil in the US dollar and its just a matter of time before other countries follow their lead.

this was a pretty fashionable belief prior to the crash. The future of the euro is still in doubt, though not as bleak as it looked two years ago.

as bad as the dollar looks, the alternatives are worse.

It may have been a fashionable belief but now it is a reality. The countries listed above are all dealing in oil not using the dollar and we're talking about some massive sums of money. The dollar was only 'underwritten' by the petrodollar after Nixon unlinked it from gold. Interestingly enough I saw this today:

http://rt.com/op-edge/china-control-world-currency-707/

I'd give the USA less then five years before the dollar collapse and actually think it will be much more rapid then that. I'm not hoping that is the case far from it, Sterling won't survive and the Euro is barely breathing as it is. I'm thinking the Yuan is the next big thing.

They DO transact oil in dollars. everyone does worldwide. the US has the most liquid oil commodity exchanges and trade the highest volumes of contracts worldwide. they also set the benchmark price globally. All in USD's.

They cannot avoid trading oil futures and oil futures trade in USD's mostly. They can sell their physical oil at the spigot in local currencies but its impossible for them to not hedge using futures. futures trade in dollars and all stored commodities are hedged.

"The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird."
John Frusciante

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masterblaster72

***America has a very large and exceptionally well equipped military but I'm curious in what other ways do you think that the USA is still exceptional?

Our football teams are world champions -- every year.

Don't forget baseball...it is the World Series after all.

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SkyDekker

******America has a very large and exceptionally well equipped military but I'm curious in what other ways do you think that the USA is still exceptional?

Our football teams are world champions -- every year.

Don't forget baseball...it is the World Series after all.

Don't forget basketball. None better than the U.S.

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Actually Kerry sugested that Assad turn over his weapons (off handedly)

No matter which way it turns out he can always say he was for it before he was against it.

Please don't dent the planet.

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[kelpdiver 2]

Skyrad

I'd give the USA less then five years before the dollar collapse and actually think it will be much more rapid then that. I'm not hoping that is the case far from it, Sterling won't survive and the Euro is barely breathing as it is. I'm thinking the Yuan is the next big thing.

To repeat - the dollar is healthier than the pound, and much more so than the Euro, both in the short term, and especially in the long term. The aging population of Europe is going to be disastrous unless you dramatically step up immigration (or birth rates).

As the China, there's no doubt in the economic power there. But there's also a pretty long history of bullshit numbers, out right corruption, as well as deliberate devaluation of the yuan. If it tracks to a "proper value" they lose business to Vietnam and other SE Asian nations. Is this the monetary unit you want to rely on? Hardly.

[PhreeZone 20]

For that article you also need to consider the Source. RT is owned/operated by the Russian State Media so its used to push a very pro-Russian agenda so its not surprising to see it predicting the doom of a western institution.

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[SkyDekker 1,465]

Sorry, Phree, no can do.

This is SC we don't deal in facts and logic here.

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[Skyrad 0]

SkyDekker

Sorry, Phree, no can do.

This is SC we don't deal in facts and logic here.

Well said that man!

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