Don't Forget to Visit Starbucks Today

[Gravitymaster 0]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/08/21/starbucks-boycott-gun-control-group/2681203/

Let's support those who support the Constitution.

[airdvr 210]

Even if people are gun control freaks don't they know they are more safe with CCW holders around? Stupid

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[BIGUN 1,486]

Well, if she's that skeered of going into a Starbucks.. get out the fucking coffee pot and stay home.

Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

[DougH 270]

What a bunch of twats.

They wouldn't have a fucking clue that I was standing next to them in line when I am carrying.

It has no impact on them or their children, it isn't going to spring out of its pocket and start spraying lead.

Pick up you soy fru fru latte... get back in your monster suv that you can barely drive... take your kids to their 10 sport practices that you use as substitute parenting, AND SHUT THE FUCK UP!

"The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall"
=P

[shropshire 0]

Wow - anger issues and carrying a gun [/JOKING]

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[DougH 270]

It was a friendly shut the fuck up, I would only smile as I laughed in their faces.

"The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall"
=P

[shropshire 0]

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

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In another thread a couple of days ago we talked about the first amendment and how people should have the right to assemble and protest and do anything they want on PUBLIC property, but I expressed a bit of heartburn whenever it interfered with ambient noise levels or uninvolved 3rd party businesses.

Well...

The people I feel sorry for in this story are anyone inside Starbucks, employees and customers, who just don't have any interest in this in either direction.

"FFS, I'm just trying to get a cup of coffee here."

"Yeah, well, I'm just trying to make a livin'."

It's really douchy to fuck with people, especially low level workers just trying to make a living, who have no interest.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[lawrocket 3]

I think that Starbucks shoud have unarmed security guards who frisk everyone that comes in. Then Starbucks will be considered the place to go for a relaxing time and a good cup of joe.

Of course, without that, a firearm restriction is a fucking joke. Which seems to be the point of the whole protest.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[ryoder 1,590]

lawrocket

I think that Starbucks shoud have unarmed security guards who frisk everyone that comes in. Then Starbucks will be considered the place to go for a relaxing time and a good cup of joe.

If the unarmed guards were hot chicks, a lot of guys might pay extra for that.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[JerryBaumchen 1,468]

Hi ryoder,

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If the unarmed guards were hot chicks

Here you go:

http://www.oregonlive.com/forest-grove/index.ssf/2013/08/public_debates_bikini_baristas.html



JerryBaumchen

[lawrocket 3]

"I'd like a d cup of caf, er, a cup of decaf."

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[skydiver30960 0]

I must admit I missed my chance to go today.

BUT, a FB post from a very pro-2nd friend of mine said that when he went in (open carrying of course) that about 80% of the people in there were also showing their support, in one way or another. (He is in Arizona, FTR)

Here's my question:

The comment that someone upstream made about "most people have no idea I'm carrying even when I'm standing right next to them" got me thinking. Do you ever worry that being so in-your-face in demonstrating your support for and rights under the 2nd could cause a community backlash?

The point made by the poster above is true: most CCDW folks prefer to keep a "low profile." An entire Starbucks could be armed on any other day, and Joe Average could have a hard time noticing it. But in this situation, with everybody "showing support" by open carrying, do the "on the fence" voters look around and think "man, these gun folks really are nuts!"

FTR I consider myself a moderate 2nd supporter. I just worry that in such powerful demonstrations more damage may be done than good.

Elvisio "just pondering" Rodriguez

[masterrig 1]

DougH

What a bunch of twats.

They wouldn't have a fucking clue that I was standing next to them in line when I am carrying.

It has no impact on them or their children, it isn't going to spring out of its pocket and start spraying lead.

Pick up you soy fru fru latte... get back in your monster suv that you can barely drive... take your kids to their 10 sport practices that you use as substitute parenting, AND SHUT THE FUCK UP!

#1


Chuck

[masterrig 1]

lawrocket

I think that Starbucks shoud have unarmed security guards who frisk everyone that comes in. Then Starbucks will be considered the place to go for a relaxing time and a good cup of joe.

Of course, without that, a firearm restriction is a fucking joke. Which seems to be the point of the whole protest.

You might want to read this, counselor...

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/When_does_a_security_guard_have_the_right_to_search_a_suspect


Chuck

[BIGUN 1,486]

lawrocket

"I'd like a d cup of caf, er, a cup of decaf."

I like it.. instead of Grande, Venti, Trenta et.al.... It would much simpler to ask for an A, B, C, D or Double D cup.

Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

[oldwomanc6 60]

I went out of my way to drive my daughter (who was home for the weekend) to starbucks to get coffee ( I don't drink coffee). I parked right out front (in their hash marked no parking spot) and waited, and waited, and waited.

They were doing a booming business in So. Md. today!


True story.

lisa
WSCR 594
FB 1023
CBDB 9

[masterrig 1]

They seem to do a good deal of business... anywhere. Personally, I think they are way over-priced and to me, their coffee is like it's been run through an old sock. I realize that it's probably the thing to do, going to Starbucks but I'll stick with Folgers brewed in our coffee pot here at the house.


Chuck

[lawrocket 3]

masterrig

***I think that Starbucks shoud have unarmed security guards who frisk everyone that comes in. Then Starbucks will be considered the place to go for a relaxing time and a good cup of joe.

Of course, without that, a firearm restriction is a fucking joke. Which seems to be the point of the whole protest.

You might want to read this, counselor...

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/When_does_a_security_guard_have_the_right_to_search_a_suspect


Chuck

I'm not making a 4th Amendment argument.

I am saying that the only waay to ensure an establishment is free of firearms is to search everyone who comes in. (And security has to be unarmed, as well). Without searches, the gun-free zone is a useless bit of propaganda.

Can you imagine the person filling the sugar? "Excuse me, sir, this is a gun-free establishment. Yes, I know that if you were going to use it you would have already, but company policy. Chop chop!"

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[Andy9o8 2]

masterrig

***I think that Starbucks shoud have unarmed security guards who frisk everyone that comes in. Then Starbucks will be considered the place to go for a relaxing time and a good cup of joe.

Of course, without that, a firearm restriction is a fucking joke. Which seems to be the point of the whole protest.

You might want to read this, counselor...

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/When_does_a_security_guard_have_the_right_to_search_a_suspect
Chuck

Not applicable. An owner or lawful possessor (tenant, etc.) of private property has the right to restrict public access to the property, and to set conditions for public access to the property, as long as those restrictions/conditions don't violate (or are not controlled by) any other laws. A store security guard is simply an agent of the store owner. Unless there's a law prohibiting searching people as a condition of entry, the store can have its security guards search people as a condition of entry, much as is done at many stadiums and concert venues. If you want to enter, you must first comply with the search. If you choose not to comply, you simply may not enter - nothing more, nothing less. Thus, whether or not the entering patron is searched is ultimately controlled by the decision of the patron himself.

[Andy9o8 2]

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I consider myself a moderate 2nd supporter.

Not permitted in here. Shirley, you've come to realize that.

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skydiver30960

I just worry that in such powerful demonstrations more damage may be done than good.

Frequently the case and especially if it's done in such a way that actively separates the protesters from the "normals."

Wanna protest injustice? First, try not to look like a crazy person. That's going to get you a lot further along than sitting in a drum circle waving your OWS fingers in approval or showing up to a political speech wearing cammo and carrying an AR-15.

Oh sure, you might get your 15 seconds on the news, but people will think you're nuts.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[shropshire 0]

Starbucks already had an excellent policy for reducing their client base ..... Crap, expensive coffee ...... next.

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[Andy9o8 2]

shropshire

Starbucks already had an excellent policy for reducing their client base ..... Crap, expensive coffee ...... next.

I've long noticed that it's vogue to bash the taste of Starbucks coffee. I'm not a coffee snob, but I am a coffee lover, and a lover of good coffee. I like Starbucks coffee, and it's usually the brand I buy at the store for use at home.

If I can't have my Starbucks, nobody can. I'm going to go shoot up the place.

[Gravitymaster 0]

Andy9o8

***Starbucks already had an excellent policy for reducing their client base ..... Crap, expensive coffee ...... next.

I've long noticed that it's vogue to bash the taste of Starbucks coffee. I'm not a coffee snob, but I am a coffee lover, and a lover of good coffee. I like Starbucks coffee, and it's usually the brand I buy at the store for use at home.

If I can't have my Starbucks, nobody can. I'm going to go shoot up the place.

As a lawyer, you should understand the possible implications of making a threat like that online. Even though it was made in jest.