rushmc 23 #51 August 21, 2013 FreeFallFiend ***[Reply]Well, anything that slowed the kids down, even a little bit, from using a gun to commit the crime -may- have given them second thoughts about committing the crime. Like the time it took for them to travel to a different neighborhood to kill someone? This was a deliberated plan. This is like Leopold and Loeb. They wanted to kill someone. They did. And it's not the first time either. As fucked up as it is i seem to recall this exact scenario happening every few years. Kids kill someone "to see how it feels." We're talking about some serious psychological issues here but it's not new and not unique. I used to date a girl who's best friend was murdered by her classmates. They were bored and wanted to see what it felt like to take a life. http://tinyurl.com/lcx67py Stories like this just leave a pit feeling in the bottom of my stomach"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 891 #52 August 21, 2013 Mental health is still the problem here But we're gonna keep dancing around with the drama game because it sells. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreeFallFiend 0 #53 August 21, 2013 It's always been about mental health. When things like this happen and people use words like "Sick, evil, disgusting" they are indicative of someone making choices that is not in good mental health.Fiend I am about to take my last voyage, a great leap in the dark. - Thomas Hobbes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #54 August 21, 2013 How the fuck with that reasoning was he not tried for premeditated murder? Sociopaths such as him and these three need to be executed.Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #55 August 21, 2013 BolasHow the fuck with that reasoning was he not tried for premeditated murder? Sociopaths such as him and these three need to be executed. Swiftly and with prejudice.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #56 August 21, 2013 [Quote]It comes down to proper parenting. Proper parents would have seen problems emerging in the personalities. Proper parents would have taught them better. Proper parents would not have let this progress to this point. Naw. The parents are already insisting that they are good, nice kids. Meaning that the kids have spent their lives being unsupervised and enabled in doing whatever fucked up things they want. There are other possibilities. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #57 August 21, 2013 normiss Mental health is still the problem here But we're gonna keep dancing around with the drama game because it sells. Back to mental health, eh? Again, the crazy person is not the person I fear. The sociopath is the one I fear. These kids thought it would be fun to kill someone. That is EXACTLY what sociopathy is. Many sociopaths are born that way. Still others are made. And unfortunately, we have plenty of subcultures where sociopaths are made - bred to be assistants in the family business. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #58 August 21, 2013 I can't decide if they're psychopaths or sociopaths. http://www.diffen.com/difference/Psychopath_vs_Sociopath I'm leaning toward psychopath with their obvious lack of empathy toward their random victim.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #59 August 21, 2013 FreeFallFiend And it's not the first time either. As fucked up as it is i seem to recall this exact scenario happening every few years. Kids kill someone "to see how it feels." We're talking about some serious psychological issues here but it's not new and not unique. I used to date a girl who's best friend was murdered by her classmates. They were bored and wanted to see what it felt like to take a life. http://tinyurl.com/lcx67py I used to work with a guy who grew up in East LA. One day he and his best friend were walking down the street, and a car load of guys pulled along side and asked for directions. His friend was going in that direction, so he offered to ride along and show them where it was in exchange for a ride. That was the last time his friend was seen alive. It turned out they strangers needed a random victim for a gang initiation. My co-worker testified at the trial, (since he was an eyewitness), and was relocated to another part of the state for his protection."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #60 August 21, 2013 BolasSociopaths such as him and these three need to be executed. Can't execute minors in the US. The best we can hope for here is life without parole.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreeFallFiend 0 #61 August 21, 2013 quadeI can't decide if they're psychopaths or sociopaths. http://www.diffen.com/difference/Psychopath_vs_Sociopath I'm leaning toward psychopath with their obvious lack of empathy toward their random victim. It's interesting to note that there are blurred lines when it comes to defining sociopathy. Many experts feel they are one in the same, and really just different degrees or forms of psychopathy. What's REALLY interesting, is according to the link you posted, many if not the majority of BASE jumpers fall into the sociopath category.Fiend I am about to take my last voyage, a great leap in the dark. - Thomas Hobbes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #62 August 21, 2013 quade ***Sociopaths such as him and these three need to be executed. Can't execute minors in the US. The best we can hope for here is life without parole. Ah yes, cuz it's better to pay to keep them locked in a cage then to put them down like the animals they are. Scratch that, wouldn't want to insult animals like that. Subanimals?Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #63 August 21, 2013 I'm not saying it's right. I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm tellin' you like it is.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #64 August 21, 2013 quadeCan't execute minors in the US. [controversial input]Unless they are innocent and not born yet ......[/] (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #65 August 21, 2013 Leftyquade wants speed limits reduced to 5mph. That would have, quite literally, slowed the kids down. that's the Speaker's Corner SPIRIT ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #66 August 21, 2013 Gravitymaster *** These kids are poster children for mandatory abortion. Now they qualify for retroactive abortion. May it be swift and sure. This is late term abortion I can support. you both have no right to an opinion here - it's the woman's body. She gets to choose - right up to the 225th month. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #67 August 21, 2013 rushmc This has not a damned thing to do with guns Nominee for stupid post of the week.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #68 August 21, 2013 kallend*** This has not a damned thing to do with guns Nominee for stupid post of the week. Well that is better than being nominated for the stupid poster of the week"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #69 August 21, 2013 rushmc ****** This has not a damned thing to do with guns Nominee for stupid post of the week. Well that is better than being nominated for the stupid poster of the week Well, I thought of that too, but decided I'd be banned for 2 weeks if I did it.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #70 August 21, 2013 QuoteNominee for stupid post of the week. Mods.... I thought personal attacks were not allowed? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #71 August 21, 2013 DaVinciQuoteNominee for stupid post of the week. Mods.... I thought personal attacks were not allowed? Since when did posts achieve personhood?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #72 August 21, 2013 kallend***QuoteNominee for stupid post of the week. Mods.... I thought personal attacks were not allowed? Since when did posts achieve personhood? I dunno. Maybe DaVinci thinks it's a corporation? Beats me. Comments about POSTS are pretty much fair game. Attacks against USERS are not.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #73 August 21, 2013 QuoteSince when did posts achieve personhood? When you play the player and not the ball. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #74 August 21, 2013 QuoteComments about POSTS are pretty much fair game. Attacks against USERS are not. Ah, so insulting a poster by saying something he did or wrote was stupid is fair game mod? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #75 August 21, 2013 DaVinciQuoteComments about POSTS are pretty much fair game. Attacks against USERS are not. Ah, so insulting a poster by saying something he did or wrote was stupid is fair game mod? It's been going on for at least a decade and you seem to be the only one whining about it.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites