Zep 0 #1 August 16, 2013 Sick or what, Religion rears it's ugly head once again. Got HIV no worries that myth in the sky will cure you. Please get a life, STOP listening to these Assholes "HIV patients told by Pentecostal pastors 'to rely on God'" http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23729684 I've got friends in England that lost their way on their journey through life they contracted AIDS, some didn't make it, some became born again Christians and some are still hanging on for dear life. What they don't need is to read that some fictional character is telling them to stop taking their medicine. Fuck religion and Fuck God. Free will be damned their my friends. Gone fishing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwieder 0 #2 August 16, 2013 Quote"HIV patients told by Pentecostal pastors 'to rely on God'" The Pentecostal Minister should be involved in such matters. QuoteI've got friends in England that lost their way on their journey through life, they contracted AIDS, some didn't make it, some became born again Christians and some are still hanging on for dear life. Most Christians who are "Living a Christ Like manner" are generally happier, more involved in helping others, etc... QuoteWhat they don't need is to read that some fictional character is telling them to stop taking their medicine. I'm 100% behind you on that. There are sects out there that condemn blood transfusions, eating certain foods, big time condemn homosexuality, and they shouldn't be doing that. These matters should be dealt with in love, not by some sort of radical, "Fire and brimstone" ministers. There's no room on the planet for these types. They give people a really unreversable bad taste of religion they can't make it back from. They're helping no one. QuoteFuck religion and Fuck God. Free will be damned their my friends. I don't know you, but I would offer in love and friendship that you please repent for this really unsavory remark. I'm not (Although I could) going to quote scripture that would reveal the most unsavory types of punishment that WILL be administered if you do not tell God your sorry. I will pray for you myself. Theres only one sin that's UNFORGIVEABLE, and that's blasphemy, there is no recompense for this. please, for your own sake, give this matter some thought. God loves you, he always has, and always will. Take Care, Be Safe. My Very Best- Richard Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #3 August 16, 2013 rwiederQuote"HIV patients told by Pentecostal pastors 'to rely on God'" The Pentecostal Minister should be involved in such matters. ***I've got friends in England that lost their way on their journey through life, they contracted AIDS, some didn't make it, some became born again Christians and some are still hanging on for dear life. Most Christians who are "Living a Christ Like manner" are generally happier, more involved in helping others, etc... QuoteWhat they don't need is to read that some fictional character is telling them to stop taking their medicine. I'm 100% behind you on that. There are sects out there that condemn blood transfusions, eating certain foods, big time condemn homosexuality, and they shouldn't be doing that. These matters should be dealt with in love, not by some sort of radical, "Fire and brimstone" ministers. There's no room on the planet for these types. They give people a really unreversable bad taste of religion they can't make it back from. They're helping no one. QuoteFuck religion and Fuck God. Free will be damned their my friends. I don't know you, but I would offer in love and friendship that you please repent for this really unsavory remark. I'm not (Although I could) going to quote scripture that would reveal the most unsavory types of punishment that WILL be administered if you do not tell God your sorry. I will pray for you myself. Theres only one sin that's UNFORGIVEABLE, and that's blasphemy, there is no recompense for this. please, for your own sake, give this matter some thought. God loves you, he always has, and always will. Take Care, Be Safe. My Very Best- Richard Did you read the story? Pentecostal Ministers telling their "flock" to stop taking their medication, and to take "holy water" instead. That sort of "involvement" is exactly what he is talking about. That isn't "Living a Christ-Like Life", that's using prayer as a wish-fulfillment. Either that or the Pastor actually wants his members with HIV to die. Many of that type believe that HIV/AIDS is a "punishment from God" And you've posted that line about God punishing the Blasphemers. IIRC, you asked DanG to recant his comments out of fear of God punishing him. Can you offer up any examples of God punishing Blasphemers? Any at all? I keep hearing "true believers" claim that "God will punish the evildoers", but I have yet to see it. Many of the worst of the "evildoers" (all sorts of evil, not just blasphemy) have lived long, vicious, evil lives and died of natural causes. Why? Shouldn't God have cut their lives short?"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatmiser 0 #4 August 17, 2013 Quote ]What they don't need is to read that some fictional character is telling them to stop taking their medicine. I'm 100% behind you on that. There are sects out there that condemn blood transfusions, eating certain foods, big time condemn homosexuality, and they shouldn't be doing that. These matters should be dealt with in love, not by some sort of radical, "Fire and brimstone" ministers. There's no room on the planet for these types. They give people a really unreversable bad taste of religion they can't make it back from. They're helping no one. Quote Fuck religion and Fuck God. Free will be damned their my friends. I don't know you, but I would offer in love and friendship that you please repent for this really unsavory remark. I'm not (Although I could) going to quote scripture that would reveal the most unsavory types of punishment that WILL be administered if you do not tell God your sorry. I will pray for you myself. Theres only one sin that's UNFORGIVEABLE, and that's blasphemy, there is no recompense for this. please, for your own sake, give this matter some thought. God loves you, he always has, and always will. Take Care, Be Safe. My Very Best- Richard I'm gonna go out on a limb here, Richard, and tell you that you just did the very thing that you spoke against a moment ago...What you say is reflective of your knowledge...HOW ya say it is reflective of your experience. Airtwardo Someone's going to be spanked! Hopefully, it will be me. Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #5 August 17, 2013 QuoteMost Christians who are "Living a Christ Like manner" are generally happier “The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact than a drunken man is happier than a sober one” George Bernard Shaw Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #6 August 17, 2013 I don't know you, but I would offer in love and friendship that you please repent for this really unsavory remark. I'm not (Although I could) going to quote scripture that would reveal the most unsavory types of punishment that WILL be administered if you do not tell God your sorry. I will pray for you myself. Theres only one sin that's UNFORGIVEABLE, and that's blasphemy, there is no recompense for this. please, for your own sake, give this matter some thought. God loves you, he always has, and always will. Take Care, Be Safe. My Very Best- Richard It kind of reminds me of this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIaORknS1Dk&feature=youtube_gdata Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #7 August 17, 2013 This situation is so bizarre I don't even know what to say. The British pastor is so far off base I would place him in the realm of cult leader. He is the same type as Fred Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Church. I am a Pentecostal Christian and have been for 32 years. Not once have I ever been with a group that advocates shunning medical treatment. Please don't try to learn about Jesus Christ by reading the news. Instead read the the New Testament in the Bible.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #8 August 17, 2013 RonD1120This situation is so bizarre I don't even know what to say. The British pastor is so far off base I would place him in the realm of cult leader. He is the same type as Fred Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Church. I am a Pentecostal Christian and have been for 32 years. Not once have I ever been with a group that advocates shunning medical treatment. Please don't try to learn about Jesus Christ by reading the news. Instead read the the New Testament in the Bible. I've done that extensively, and what I learned is that just about every right wing Christian is in complete violation of the teachings of Jesus.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #9 August 17, 2013 kallend***This situation is so bizarre I don't even know what to say. The British pastor is so far off base I would place him in the realm of cult leader. He is the same type as Fred Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Church. I am a Pentecostal Christian and have been for 32 years. Not once have I ever been with a group that advocates shunning medical treatment. Please don't try to learn about Jesus Christ by reading the news. Instead read the the New Testament in the Bible. I've done that extensively, and what I learned is that just about every right wing Christian is in complete violation of the teachings of Jesus. How about the left wing Christians? You know, the ones the atheists Democrats try to pretend don't exist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #10 August 17, 2013 Gravitymaster******This situation is so bizarre I don't even know what to say. The British pastor is so far off base I would place him in the realm of cult leader. He is the same type as Fred Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Church. I am a Pentecostal Christian and have been for 32 years. Not once have I ever been with a group that advocates shunning medical treatment. Please don't try to learn about Jesus Christ by reading the news. Instead read the the New Testament in the Bible. I've done that extensively, and what I learned is that just about every right wing Christian is in complete violation of the teachings of Jesus. How about the left wing Christians? You know, the ones the atheists Democrats try to pretend don't exist. Priceless!Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #11 August 17, 2013 Ron, I think you should get Kallend this T-shirt for Christmas or as he prefers the Winter Solstice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #12 August 17, 2013 GravitymasterRon, I think you should get Kallend this T-shirt for Christmas or as he prefers the Winter Solstice. Well, that just put ME on the spot.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #13 August 18, 2013 kallend***This situation is so bizarre I don't even know what to say. The British pastor is so far off base I would place him in the realm of cult leader. He is the same type as Fred Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Church. I am a Pentecostal Christian and have been for 32 years. Not once have I ever been with a group that advocates shunning medical treatment. Please don't try to learn about Jesus Christ by reading the news. Instead read the the New Testament in the Bible. I've done that extensively, and what I learned is that just about every right wing Christian is in complete violation of the teachings of Jesus. As I worshiped and praised the Lord in church this morning I thought about your accusation. I agree with you. I know that I do not follow all of Jesus' teachings. I once followed the course of this world and the prince of power of the air, see Ephesians 2, and it is not easy to stop paying homage to my flesh, exalting my ego and put Jesus first in my life. In general, it is safe to say that churches are full of sinners. Of which I am one. That being said, it is near impossible to observe and understand what Christians, right wing or left wing, do without being in their fellowship. I encourage you to become a member.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zep 0 #14 August 18, 2013 "Fuck religion and Fuck God. Free will be damned, their my friends." I apologize for that phrase, I got caught up in the heat of having just read the report. Every one is entitled to their own beliefs. Gone fishing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #15 August 19, 2013 Zep "Fuck religion and Fuck God. Free will be damned, their my friends." I apologize for that phrase, I got caught up in the heat of having just read the report. Every one is entitled to their own beliefs. Indeed they are. But not entitled to force them upon others (by, for example, lobbying for laws that force others to comply their beliefs)... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwieder 0 #16 August 19, 2013 Quote I'm gonna go out on a limb here, Richard, and tell you that you just did the very thing that you spoke against a moment ago... Just don't go too far on that limb. I did nothing more or nothing less than any born again Christian wouldn't do for anyone whose soul may be in danger. Christian, Not, Whatever. Best- Richard Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
